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RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Kid Twist - 04-19-2017 08:48 AM

(04-19-2017 02:52 AM)Mrredsquare Wrote:  Five weeks done.

But i keep busting early during oral and sex is this normal ?

Also can't focus on anything but women , i need to turn this energy lifting weights or approaching somehow.

Still been drinking way to much (celebrating birthdays etc) gonna cut down from now on.

I'm over 7 and everything you said has to be common, I have energy lifting, if I saw the right girl and opportunity in the gym the testosterone is the I don't give a fuck type of feel as far as interacting with decent or ugly girls alike. I get blue balls randomly. morning wood is the biggest challenge, the stiffy is tremendous. If I got a blowie from a girl it'd be like 30 seconds, lol


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - zphyer7 - 04-19-2017 10:04 AM

(04-19-2017 02:52 AM)Mrredsquare Wrote:  Five weeks done.

But i keep busting early during oral and sex is this normal ?

Also can't focus on anything but women , i need to turn this energy lifting weights or approaching somehow.

Still been drinking way to much (celebrating birthdays etc) gonna cut down from now on.

Yeah busting early is normal for NoFap in my opinion. It makes sense when you consider not watching porn or fapping makes your dick much more sensitive to real stimulation. The upside is you can usually recover quicker for the second round.

I found three ways to combat this when I was not doing NoFap Hard mode.

1. Use Cialis. I didn't need it to get a boner, but Cialis has alway made me last longer so this is usually the first thing I would try.

2. Pump your dick before sex using a bathmate or air pump. Not only will this make your dick bigger and thicker for a awhile but all the pressure exerted on your dick also desensitizes it helping you maintain control. This is my second most used technique.

3. If I felt like the first two methods wouldn't be enough or the girl I was with was super fucking hot I would take some dextroamphetamine a premature ejaculation prevention drug. This stuff has always worked for me and insures i can pound away for as long as I wanted with ultimate control.

It's kind of expensive even in generic form and gives me brain fog, but with the hottest in demand girls you really have to give a good first impression when your fucking them to earn repeat business. Nutting as soon as you get inside of them is never a good look even if they do give you a second shot that night.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Mercenary - 04-19-2017 11:56 AM

(04-19-2017 06:59 AM)ExploringReality Wrote:  The flatline is a bitch. I have near to 0 libido, when I'm with a girl I have to remind myself that I have to fuck them. Thanks to the gods of testosterone my dick gets up without problem, but it goes to sleep when stimulation ceases. It will pass.

I'm not approaching at all, I just don't have the desire to do so. Damn, last thursday I was out and approached a girl that I found qt just because I felt the obligation to do so, but I had no desire lol. It will pass too.

Yup, flatline is a god awful black hole. You'll get through it. Just stay away from "testing" yourself with porn. That's the worst thing to do. Get to 90 days no matter what. Your libido will only come back when your brain and body have healed from years of damage.

(04-19-2017 03:40 AM)Eugenics Wrote:  Fucked up a week ago after a few plates fell and broke. Regretted it, my game has suffered and so has my attitude.

Still don't really know how much is placebo and how much is physiological but nofap/noporn seems to improve my quality of life.

It makes no difference if it's pacebo or psychological.
Point is NoFap works like magic.
Thats all that metters.

(04-19-2017 10:04 AM)zphyer7 Wrote:  1. Use Cialis.

2.

3. take some dextroamphetamine


I don't recommend the use of any medicines or drugs whatsoever. (legal or not).
Always remember that stopping masturbation and usage porn is a process of healing from serious brain damage.
You cannot heal your mind properly using artifical substances created in a labratory. This healing a lot more important to your life than impressing some slut that first time you bang her out.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - YoungBlade - 04-19-2017 12:37 PM

I haven't been taking this as seriously as I should. Edging to softcore shit. Weakness. Gonna do better.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Mercenary - 04-19-2017 02:17 PM

(04-19-2017 12:37 PM)YoungBlade Wrote:  I haven't been taking this as seriously as I should. Edging to softcore shit. Weakness. Gonna do better.

Try looking at online stuff only when you are in public places or around other people. Sleep with your bedroom door open. Avoid being alone and isolated as much as possible.

If you get the urge while in the bathroom = ICE COLD WATER on the hands and head immediately.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - YoungBlade - 04-19-2017 05:20 PM

Will do Merc. Thanks


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - ksbms - 04-22-2017 06:50 AM

I'm two weeks in on noFap. That's exactly fourteen days. And no action in the bedroom. When I walk dow the street, I drill girls with my eyes. Time to hit the streets, and some bars later tonight as last night was so disappointing - we hit 5-6 bars and quality of girls was lower than the gutter. That's Scotland for you. Will report in approach thread tomorrow...


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Mercenary - 04-22-2017 09:24 AM

(04-22-2017 06:50 AM)ksbms Wrote:  I'm two weeks in on noFap. That's exactly fourteen days. And no action in the bedroom.

Recovery time varies between all males based on your age and number of years exposed to internet porn.
Minimum time for all men for a full recovery is 90 days without masturbating a single time and without looking at porn.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - ExploringReality - 04-22-2017 09:32 AM

Things are getting weird. I had a dream where I masturbated, like, that was all my dream; also, even though I don't have much of a libido, I have a wish to masturbate. I didn't before the flatline, I had a libido, I wanted pussy, I wanted to experience a woman's body in its entirety, not just the pleasurable orgasm. Now, I don't have a libido, and all I seem to want is that high. I'm sure I will make it to the 90 days mark, I know I will, but I find this kind of disturbing. It really feels like if something was plotting against this; no wonder people used to/ still believe in demons. Our brains are crazy.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Mercenary - 04-22-2017 09:51 AM

(04-22-2017 09:32 AM)ExploringReality Wrote:  Things are getting weird. I had a dream where I masturbated, like, that was all my dream; also, even though I don't have much of a libido, I have a wish to masturbate. I didn't before the flatline, I had a libido, I wanted pussy, I wanted to experience a woman's body in its entirety, not just the pleasurable orgasm. Now, I don't have a libido, and all I seem to want is that high. I'm sure I will make it to the 90 days mark, I know I will, but I find this kind of disturbing.

All normal....just look at symptoms of recovering drug addicts.
Your body is craving bad behaviours that used to numb painful thoughts or boredom and give you pleasure.
Withdrawl symptoms during NoFap can take all sorts of weird forms in your mind.
You think masturbation and porn aren't brain damaging drugs ?
Think again.


(04-22-2017 09:32 AM)ExploringReality Wrote:  It really feels like if something was plotting against this; no wonder people used to/ still believe in demons. Our brains are crazy.

Any compulsive behaviour which you cannot give up or control is a demon.

Even if you are not religious, having a Christian bible or some Buddhist books nearby during tough times can really help. The devil lord Mara tempted Buddha in many different ways for many weeks while he was meditating under that tree. When he couldn't break Buddha with endless types of beautiful girls, he sent him depression, hopelessness, anger, despair and all other sorts of really negative thoughts to get him to give up. These are all demons too which you must fight.


On a more personal level, I think demons are very real.
Just go into the 2 RVF threads for people who have taken the drug DMT or the south american plant extract called Ayahuasca, and read about the weird interdimensional entities they speak to. Many people claim these spirits they see and talk to are good and benevolent, but I think that is just part of their masterful trickery and deception.


Always remember:

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince the world he didn't exist


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - ExploringReality - 04-22-2017 10:07 AM

(04-22-2017 09:51 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  
(04-22-2017 09:32 AM)ExploringReality Wrote:  Things are getting weird. I had a dream where I masturbated, like, that was all my dream; also, even though I don't have much of a libido, I have a wish to masturbate. I didn't before the flatline, I had a libido, I wanted pussy, I wanted to experience a woman's body in its entirety, not just the pleasurable orgasm. Now, I don't have a libido, and all I seem to want is that high. I'm sure I will make it to the 90 days mark, I know I will, but I find this kind of disturbing.

All normal....just look at symptoms of recovering drug addicts.
Your body is craving bad behaviours that used to numb painful thoughts or boredom and give you pleasure.
Withdrawl symptoms during NoFap can take all sorts of weird forms in your mind.
You think masturbation and porn aren't brain damaging drugs ?
Think again.


(04-22-2017 09:32 AM)ExploringReality Wrote:  It really feels like if something was plotting against this; no wonder people used to/ still believe in demons. Our brains are crazy.

Any compulsive behaviour which you cannot give up or control is a demon.

Even if you are not religious, having a Christian bible or some Buddhist books nearby during tough times can really help. The devil Mara tempted Buddha in many different ways for many weeks while he was meditating under that tree. When he couldn't break Buddha with endless types of beautiful girls, he sent him depression, hopelessness, anger, despair and all other sorts of really negative thoughts to get him to give up. These are all demons too which you must fight.


On a more personal level, I think demons are very real.
Just go into the RVF threads for people who have taken the drug DMT or the south american plant extract called Ayahuasca and read about the entities they speak to. Many people claim these spirits they see and talk to are good and benevolent, but I think that is just part of their masterful trickery and deception.

I was a psychonaut myself, I've had some crazy experiences with different plants. Some times the world really seems to talk to you, to plot against you or to benefit you... then again, I always can find a rational justification that makes outside entities unnecessary. Nowadays I would subscribe to a traditional christian religious perspective if I had to choose...psychedelia is too far out there, and whilst really interesting and beautiful it can and will drive many guys crazy. Any knowledgeable psychonaut knows that McKenna had a very difficult trip on his last years that drove him away from shrooms...and he was the shroom guy.

How long have you been in NoFap Mercenary? Do you still get urges? I'm very curious, I don't mind fighting constantly if I have to, but what I know about all this makes me think that the urges to fap should go away at some point. One last question, are you familiar with thomistic philosophy? I find it to be more and more useful to explain human desire and morality (well, and everything if I am to be honest lol).


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Mercenary - 04-22-2017 11:39 AM

(04-22-2017 10:07 AM)ExploringReality Wrote:  I was a psychonaut myself, I've had some crazy experiences with different plants. Some times the world really seems to talk to you, to plot against you or to benefit you... then again, I always can find a rational justification that makes outside entities unnecessary. Nowadays I would subscribe to a traditional christian religious perspective if I had to choose...psychedelia is too far out there, and whilst really interesting and beautiful it can and will drive many guys crazy. Any knowledgeable psychonaut knows that McKenna had a very difficult trip on his last years that drove him away from shrooms...and he was the shroom guy.

What you should experience on long term NoFap is a simliar kind of high you get from drugs, but without drugs. How long this will take and what you will actually feel I cannot say...it varies for every man.

However, as an example - you know all those christian saints and Buddhist monks in history who got shining halos above their heads and had "visions" ? I can guarantee you all of them fasted without food for weeks and fought and fought until they finally overcame the urge of masturbation until their mind was pure enough to see and hear these things. It probably took those holy dudes years and years of NoFap to get to that state of mind. Drugs are the devil's shortcut to experiencing the mystical. But instead of getting the good stuff, with drugs you get demons tricking you into thinking your are seeing heaven or its equivalent.

(04-22-2017 10:07 AM)ExploringReality Wrote:  How long have you been in NoFap Mercenary? Do you still get urges? I'm very curious, I don't mind fighting constantly if I have to, but what I know about all this makes me think that the urges to fap should go away at some point. One last question, are you familiar with thomistic philosophy? I find it to be more and more useful to explain human desire and morality (well, and everything if I am to be honest lol).

I started last September and am still trying to master it.
It's by far the most difficult addiction I've ever had to break.
Honestly, it was easier for me to do a total fast and have nothing but water for 7 days, which I managed better than this.


Of course I get urges.
The urges to masturbate will eventually get weaker and weaker, but the urge for sex will never go away...if it did you would not be a man anymore.
It would be like the urge to want eat food going away.
However, you can have an urge to eat loads of sugary stuff or you can change that urge so that you only want to eat healthy stuff.
The difference reducing exposure to fake stimuli (porn) and learning total bodily control.

For me it's getting to the point where the urges are actually more pleasurable than masturbating. Hard to believe, but it is so.

I don't know about thomistic philosophy...but if you find a useful relation to it regarding NoFap, then post about it in this thread.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - zphyer7 - 04-22-2017 04:44 PM

(04-19-2017 11:56 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  
(04-19-2017 10:04 AM)zphyer7 Wrote:  1. Use Cialis.

2.

3. take some dextroamphetamine


I don't recommend the use of any medicines or drugs whatsoever. (legal or not).
Always remember that stopping masturbation and usage porn is a process of healing from serious brain damage.
You cannot heal your mind properly using artifical substances created in a labratory. This healing a lot more important to your life than impressing some slut that first time you bang her out.

1. Cialis used at the correct dosages has very mild side effects and helps with erection quality, refractory period, as well as premature ejaculation issues. The worse most guys get is a runny nose for a couple of days. Big deal.

2 Yes, Dextroamphetamine is a nasty drug like most SSRIs (Zoloft). It gives me brain fog and a general "blah" feeling. Like I said, this is the last resort. It always worked for me, giving me ultimate control no matter how hot the girl was. There's a reason it's so utilized in the porn world, as detestable as that might be, because it works. The only advantage compared to other SSRIs is the short half life so it's out of your system fast. Not to be done more than rarely of course. If you do try this only use 25 mg. I tried 50 mg a couple of times and couldn't cum at all. I had to give up after the girls got too sore to continue.

3. If your afraid of all drugs just use a vacuum pump before sex. It desensitizes your dick and makes it bigger at the same time. A win-win scenario. Obviously common sense applies, so don't use to much pressure and break your dick bros.

As for whether these techniques should be used, this is the information Mrredsquare asked for so I gave it to him. The time I spent impressing sluts while doing NoFap with my pumped, Cialis, and Dex enhanced dick I don't regret. This is a stage most guys on NoFap will go through on their way to more disciplined runs. Now for instance I don't think it's a good idea having sex at all while rebooting, and I'm not on my current run which is at 50 days. Going monk mode is too much for most guys to accept at the beginning, especially guys that are on what's essentially a pickup forum. So instead of giving Mrredsquare a sermon I answered his question, because I realized everyones NoFap journey is at a different stage and that's all right.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Robert Rule - 04-23-2017 07:58 PM

delete


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - sterling_archer - 04-24-2017 01:46 AM

Interesting thing I observed.

Today it has been 10 days or so since I started renovation of my bathroom. Bathroom was place where I fapped, so not in my room. And guess what? I have had urges almost every day but they passed immediately since I have not access to bathroom. Its all purely mental.
Now when new bathroom is finished, I will try to regard it still as not available for fapping.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Mercenary - 04-24-2017 02:16 AM

What it's like when you stop watching porn and do not masturbate anymore:


DAY 1 to 14
(The day count is just an example. The timing and duration of these symptoms varies in every single man)



DAY 1 (underestimating the difficulty of this challenge)
[Image: tenor.gif]


DAY 3 (First tempation to break)
[Image: DvxYEmM.gif]


DAY 5 (More temptation to peak at porn or edge)
[Image: giphy.gif]


DAY 6 (uncontrollable urges)
[Image: nhfz7mJ.gif]


DAY 7 (intense aggression)
[Image: KongGif2.gif.CROP.original-original.gif]


DAY 9 (Fighting your own inner demons)
[Image: u6N6EYL.gif]


DAY 10 Really weird dreams and/or Sex Dreams - temptation of the Succubus
[Image: giphy.gif]


DAY 12 (insomnia)
[Image: giphy.gif]


DAY 13 (Mistakenly click a thread on this forum with softcore sexy pic)
[Image: giphy.gif]


DAY 14 (Level Up - Werewolf mode -1st superpowers unlocked)
[Image: alteredbeast.gif]


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Mercenary - 04-24-2017 02:18 AM

...

(The day count is just an example. The timing and duration of these symptoms varies in every single man)


DAY 15 (flashbacks to favourite porn scenes)
[Image: tumblr_mb2v17KKo71qzjuf9o1_500.gif]


DAY 19 (FLATLINE - zero libido, dick is dead)
[Image: detumesce.gif]


DAY 20 (FLATLINE - all emotions dead)
[Image: giphy.gif]


DAY 21 (Morning erection when waking up that will not go away)
[Image: f3nvji.gif]


DAY 22 (FLATLINE and zero libido again)
[Image: giphy.gif]


DAY 23 (More Insomnia and zero emotions)
[Image: tenor.gif]


DAY 24 (FLATLINE and depression)
[Image: 9C0UxA4.gif]


DAY 25 (self hate for testing yourself by peaking at porn)
[Image: tumblr_oc2mcqJIJx1syvo5io1_500.gif]


DAY 26 (Realisation how addictive and brain damaging porn is)
[Image: tumblr_ni6f5awNaO1tpwlh1o1_500.gif]


1 MONTH completed
[Image: giphy.gif]


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Mercenary - 04-24-2017 02:19 AM

...

(The day count is just an example. The timing and duration of these symptoms varies in every single man)



DAY 33 (Almost relapse cause of arrogance in thinking you have mastered it)
[Image: tumblr_mr2y31HUD61rf3wd1o1_500.gif]


DAY 37 (A cute girl you met in the park the day before sends you a sexy message on your phone)
[Image: 77e.gif]


DAY 44 (You now only wash yourself with ice COLD showers)
[Image: giphy.gif]


DAY 48 - (Level UP - improved ability to fight fapping uges)
[Image: tumblr_numtbbUbKV1tdo66yo1_500.gif]


DAY 57 (Satan and his demons still try to break you with flatline depression, porn flashbacks, sexy dreams or other temptations)
[Image: NGhUN3.gif]


DAY 59 everytime you get a temptation to relapse you fight back and say "Go back to hell"
[Image: B28.gif]


DAY 60 - 2 months of no porn and no masturbation
[Image: giphy.gif]


DAY 75 - Satan is back with his demons in the final effort at breaking you - this time you are ready
[Image: giphy.gif]


DAY 80 - The devil and his demons don't scare you anymore...you can walk into a whole pit of snakes and own that shit
[Image: 1]


DAY 90 (Full reboot achieved)
[Image: clark-to-superman.gif]


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Mercenary - 04-24-2017 02:21 AM

....


Beyond 90 days


Brain damage from porn and masturbation healed:

Unlocked GOD Mode



[Image: MG4xRQ6.gif]



Music for GOD mode






RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - sterling_archer - 04-24-2017 02:41 AM

Awesome and funny posts Merc! Actually tonight I really felt like Day 10 gif


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Ringo - 04-24-2017 10:13 AM

46 days in.

Banged my main girl on Friday, and approached a ton on Saturday. Made out and almost brought a new girl home from a club. Woke up 10am with a plate cancelling our meeting later on, so I was extremely horny all Sunday long.

During the afternoon I had a crazy, almost wet dream during a 5min nap on the couch. Later during the night more sex-related dreams followed by sleep paralysis/demonic presence.

Will not break before 90 days no matter what.

Edit:
Accurate depiction of how I feel lol:

(04-24-2017 02:19 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  DAY 57 (Satan and his demons still try to break you with flatline depression, porn flashbacks, sexy dreams or other temptations)
[Image: NGhUN3.gif]



RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - torridon747 - 04-24-2017 01:44 PM

I've been getting sleep paralysis more and more. Not sure if it has anything to do with no-fap but it's terrifying and I like it.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Kid Twist - 04-24-2017 05:01 PM

There is a clarity and a swelling up of libidinous energy as you go along in this, I'm at day 58, but I admit almost out of reflex I test it a bit waking up in the night the woody is so stiff. Mercenary may sound funny at times, but I urge you to heed his word. I believe he's closer to the truth about these things than it may first appear. It'd be nice to be with a good woman as opposed to lots of women you have little respect for, not that you ever disrespect them. I just don't find many that are worth the time, especially as we get older the access part gets harder and harder. We'll see.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Mercenary - 04-25-2017 10:35 AM

(04-24-2017 10:13 AM)Ringo Wrote:  Later during the night more sex-related dreams followed by sleep paralysis/demonic presence.

(04-24-2017 01:44 PM)Eugenics Wrote:  I've been getting sleep paralysis more and more. Not sure if it has anything to do with no-fap but it's terrifying and I like it.



I have read on other NoFap forums of sleep paralysis being a possible (but quite rare ?) symptom on NoFap.

Ringo and Eugenics...please can you each describe what exactly happened, what you saw, how long it lasted, and how it ended ?


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - YoungBlade - 04-26-2017 05:36 AM

Just had a mild case of sleep paralysis. May be a side effect of no fap, as instead of feeling like I was being attacked, the dream beforehand had me chasing a presence and scaring the hell out of it.

On the other hand, it is likely a case of sleep deprivation as my work schedule has been all over the place. My main concern is that sleep paralysis is a sign of possible epilepsy, which my father has, and I don't wanna deal with for myself.