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RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - YoungBlade - 06-23-2017 06:11 AM

Vivid nofap dreams again.

Was drinking whiskey out of Dixie cups with a buddy of mine in my grandparents' bathroom while we discussed Roman history. Bizarre.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - YoungBlade - 06-23-2017 09:54 PM

Broke. Chaser effect.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Simeon_Strangelight - 06-24-2017 03:23 AM

(06-20-2017 07:58 PM)redbeard Wrote:  
(06-20-2017 09:53 AM)Kid Twist Wrote:  Is Redbeard's theory that there is a relaxation or loosening of the pelvic floor that leads to endurance as opposed to tight or strengthened PC muscle?

Also, if it's been a long time and you haven't even dulled senses a bit by drinking, I find that your body (brain?) even realizes it's been so long before you even get fully hard --- and if you aren't careful you could have an ejac before having a proper woody. Anyone experience this? It's usually during bj time where you have to start and stop to make sure there's enough time for the blood to get in there before you blast, ha

There are lots of theories.

"Redbeard's theory" was something I got off of PEGym. There was a guy who was REALLY gung ho about kegels, jelqing, edging, everything on the board, he did it. He could edge for HOURS, had a strong PC muscle, but when it came to sex...terrible performance.

The game changer for him? Was what I"m doing right no. No exercises, no fapping, no porn....lots of stretching and lots of sex.
Banana

I would not do the edging exercises proposed there. This is for premature ejaculation and even then it would be better to work with a girlfriend on that.

As for edging and other tools to enlarge girth. It is better to let technology deal with it:

https://www.goodlookingloser.com/bathmate-before-and-after (ah - looking at it another warning - has some additional NSFW shots in action - so essentially porn pics there - of medicinal scientific value, but still pornographic)

The Austin Powers jokes are delightful, but there is some basic truth to it.

Good Looking Loser has a candid assessment of the situation complete with NSFW pics of his dick.

I am currently not doing this, because I am even a bit too big with the girl I am mostly fucking right now, but I experimented with that and can confirm similar results.

Also another point that you can do is:

+ High Potency Multi
+ Magnesium 400mg-800mg
+ Zinc 75mg-150mg (that is why you need more Multi and more Magnesium, because zinc is a codependent mineral and depletes other minerals when you take it at doses significantly above 50-75mg (which is recommended actually for men)
+ Ecklonia Cava https://www.swansonvitamins.com/doctors-best-fibroboost-400-mg-90-veg-caps - I took 2-4 capsules of that with tremendous results. Not only is the supplement good for you for a variety of reasons - a side-effect are raging super-hard boners that you may remember having gotten at age 16. So this supplement is only recommended together with zinc only if you have a pussy or face to aim it at. It will make NoFap more difficult if you don't get laid, but you will be amazed at the difference in performance.
+ There are also a huge assortment of other herbs and supplements that you can experiment with: https://www.swansonvitamins.com/cat1/Sexual+Health/brand/Swanson+Health+Products/ - Swanson is a solid company so everyone sold will have at least some positive effect on a certain part of the male and female population. But again those are usually natural libido and performance enhancing tools.

Anyone should first test out all those things (including Nofap of course as well) above before moving to Viagra, hormones etc
The natural way is usually the best - even if some herbs and supplements have extreme versions of natural - it still beats anything else.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - casa-nostra - 06-24-2017 10:29 AM

I Did the Nofap many times , the only problem and unfortunalty it is a big problem, is that after 7 days , i become so horny that i cum so so fast. and i loose girls for that.
Even when i masturbate i have that problem but way less.

Do someone have the same problem with the NoFap ?


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - loremipsum - 06-25-2017 01:37 PM

(06-24-2017 10:29 AM)casa-nostra Wrote:  I Did the Nofap many times , the only problem and unfortunalty it is a big problem, is that after 7 days , i become so horny that i cum so so fast. and i loose girls for that.
Even when i masturbate i have that problem but way less.

Do someone have the same problem with the NoFap ?

There are some meds for PE which seem to work for many people.
And yes, nofap does that which is why I prefer Mark Manson's 1 fap/week without porn.

PEs are pretty common amongst men though. I don't see why you'd lose girls if you just consider it your warmup orgasm and you sex game is otherwise good?


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - casa-nostra - 06-25-2017 03:38 PM

(06-25-2017 01:37 PM)loremipsum Wrote:  
(06-24-2017 10:29 AM)casa-nostra Wrote:  I Did the Nofap many times , the only problem and unfortunalty it is a big problem, is that after 7 days , i become so horny that i cum so so fast. and i loose girls for that.
Even when i masturbate i have that problem but way less.

Do someone have the same problem with the NoFap ?

There are some meds for PE which seem to work for many people.
And yes, nofap does that which is why I prefer Mark Manson's 1 fap/week without porn.

PEs are pretty common amongst men though. I don't see why you'd lose girls if you just consider it your warmup orgasm and you sex game is otherwise good?

well most of girls i fucked are hook up , ONS ...

those type of girls dont like PE. I always do longer the second time , but only if i really like the girl. If she is less than 6-7 , i dont even want to do a second set


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Constitution45 - 06-26-2017 04:24 AM

I lost a girl i was seeing because of this just yesterday. She ended up having sex with her ex while I was at work. I think the phimosis issue is clearing up though after doing those exercises. I am now able to pull it back behind the glands with ease. I guessed most of the ED stemmed from this. But I am going to engage with nofap just in case. Call it a test of frame but I spoke to two girls that I don't see anymore. And they told me that I had this problem not often but sometimes. I honestly don't know why I had it so bad with this new girl. I found her very attractive but thats not unusual for me. I am really confused.

I'll see a urologist later this week. The issue is obviously not chronic, my health is in good shape. I have high stress levels but I can't imagine my T levels are low. I am in my mid 20s, average build, I go to the gym regularly.

I used porn throughout my teen years and early 20s. I get a strong kick whenever I see imagines and a burst of dopamine, so I presume that there is an issue there somehow.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Felix88 - 06-26-2017 10:34 PM

(06-08-2017 04:07 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Now women are starting NOFAP.

It is obviously easier for them, but the girls claim that it works for them too by boosting positive energy.





That guy also good:




I don't buy it, the equivalent of nofap for women is laying off the romance novels, social media and soap operas, this just looks like typical attention whoring to me.

Anyway, back to day 1 from June-27-2017. I didn't fap but I watched some porn yesterday, the decline in energy after watching them is very real.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Kid Twist - 06-27-2017 01:05 PM

(06-24-2017 10:29 AM)casa-nostra Wrote:  I Did the Nofap many times , the only problem and unfortunalty it is a big problem, is that after 7 days , i become so horny that i cum so so fast. and i loose girls for that.
Even when i masturbate i have that problem but way less.

Do someone have the same problem with the NoFap ?

As I referred to earlier as well, I think it's a comfort thing as well, you need to be around the girl generally to be used to natural progression from being close, kissing, etc. I've found that without this, what is considered performance anxiety, and possible inability or PE as a result, is actually just lack of comfort and a rushed encounter but it's perceived as anxiety. This is what's odd, if I've gone nofap for a long time, clearly I'm ready to bust at any given moment. I usually don't get an erection straight away unless I start making out with the girl, even though I'm attracted and/or see her naked. What's funny is that I've found if you're nofap for a long time and you're getting a bj, if not fully hard you could still lose it, which seems physiologically strange. The larger benefit has to be the refractory period. Obviously that entails waiting for some period of time. I'm wondering what that is for others, because obviously if you get it going again you can pound her for a long time in round 2.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - heavy - 06-27-2017 01:34 PM

I can't relate to having a girl upset I came to fast.

I mean, yes, they would prefer a longer session, they would prefer to build up and climax, orgasm at the same time...but I've always found girls to be happy their body turned me on so much I came quickly.

Plus when I'm backed up like that, I'll stay hard for round 2 or 3.

Maybe it's just my mindset. When I was younger I was more concerned with her enjoying it. I still am, but it's from a different mindset. I'll give her a pleasurable experience, but that's not my first concern.

I find women want these things, in order of priority:
1. Make me cum, so she feels validated that she still hot and sexy. And to know she hooked up with a real man.
2. Enjoy sex. She wants to enjoy at least more than a few minutes of good hot sex. Maybe hours. This is secondary to the man's needs. Hence, blow jobs. She loves that she's pleasuring me.
3. Orgasm. Even women I've been with who usually orgasm with sex, many times don't orgasm. That's fine. It's the 3rd priority though. She can fuck for hours and love it, and maybe for whatever reason not orgasm.

Edit...oh and above, when I say they "would prefer"...sometimes they wouldn't prefer a long sensual session. Chicks are situational. Maybe they just want a hot load in the face.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Kid Twist - 06-27-2017 02:01 PM

Heavy is right, it's often just as much (1) as anything, but the problem is that at any given time you can't predict shit with women. But we already knew that ...

Make sure you take your time and foreplay. Start with it even. Then if the session is 10 minutes anyway, no one will be disappointed, regardless of what the stopwatch says when it is "your turn" from start to finish.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Cattle Rustler - 06-27-2017 02:04 PM

Just passed 45 days.

My pussy pipeline is dry and my harem disbanded, main is 2 hours away...haven't fucked in 3 weeks. The urge is there because I know I probably won't get pussy for 3-4 more weeks because I'll be busy with work (12+ hr days). Part of me tells me "nigga, just rub one out....you're not gonna get laid in the near future".


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Easy_C - 06-27-2017 03:36 PM

Yes, but also keep in mind it takes longer than a few days to get your state right so you CAN get laid.

Hold the course for a few more weeks and you'll be able to crush any threesome you want once you do get out on the town.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - kosko - 07-04-2017 11:27 AM

Back on this as of July 1st. I have done various different types of No Fap/No Porn Combos and this is what I have found.

No Fap+No Porn: turns me into a animal. After 2 weeks all I can think about is busting a nut and it becomes a nuisance. The only benefit is that I physically feel more robust, my skin feels thicker, my veins pop out more. I am more amped up. I spring out of bed in the mornings with more energy. All this is great, but with the inability to focus in on tasks because of the urge to nut it all becomes a wash.

No Porn: This has worked well in some cases but it ends up becoming a slow creep. I would watch sexy Youtube videos of girls doing workuts, Yoga, dance, etc. I would eventually get boerd after a while as there is only so many hot girls you can find on Youtube like that.

No Hardcore Porn: For one round I did only Softcore porn which worked well. This was combined with Youtube videos.

Lesbian and solo porn only: This worked good also. I still crave like an animal the female form and all of its splendour so just watching a tease or striptease video of a pornstar was fine. I didn't get the brain fog or anything like that and it is simple enough that you really ain't going to watch it daily.

So from the above... the new routine will be to start off clean slate - No Fap+No Porn and I hope to do this for 14 days to essentially reboot/restart things. After that, if needed then it will be Youtube or Tease videos once a week or every 10 days to release things if needed.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - The Catalyst - 07-04-2017 05:51 PM

My main problem is as of late especially now it's winter here there's nothing to do, so I've always had a feeling of boredom and curiosity that instinctively I want to watch/binge on porn. Now I've probably relapsed 1-2/week on average in the past 3-4 months(in summer it was more like 1-2/month). This is even with a porn filter which I just click off when I have that urge. I think it's too easy to justify watching a little bit of it because I'm so bored and curious as to what girls would look like/do and then once I start even if I close it off it's all I think about for the next hour so I bring it up again.

I don't understand why it's been so difficult for me to quit porn I've never actually "wanted" to watch porn consciously for the past 2 years but somehow when I let my hindbrain take control it always makes excuses for why I should do it. But I never had any trouble say giving up junk food or coffee/caffeine- the moment I wanted to quit, I would give in for the first few weeks then quit cold turkey after.

Each time I relapsed I always vow to quit forever but I think I've gone through the same routine dozens of times. It always seems like I didn't put enough willpower in but if I relapse so reliably then there's probably something systematically wrong with my approach.

Right now NZ is just way too boring(especially in winter when you can't go to the beach or daygame) and it's difficult to make friends, so I don't know if the classic methods of breaking addiction/killing depression by doing activities/being social is all that effective. Porn(and fapping to it) is probably the thing creating the most misery right now so I would do something that's not even all that healthy just if it helps me quit. Boredom is the main culprit right now(it hasn't always been- before being tired/depressed/sexually frustrated were big reasons too, but as of late it's pretty much only boredom that makes me relapse) so I would do anything to kill boredom, even if it's not actually productive to my life(endlessly going on youtube, reading the forum, playing some free computer games that I'm getting bored of really quick, etc). Really don't know what I can do.

Every time I binge I have this loss of concentration and positivity and energy that lasts for 2-3 days. This is why I don't understand why I keep binging even though I know it would be really horrible for me.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - ExploringReality - 07-06-2017 06:08 PM

Some time since I came to the forum, figured I would use this thread again. Day 1 here, still have the 2 girls, and it-s only been 3 days since I had sex, so I don-t know why I relapsed.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Celestial - 07-06-2017 09:12 PM

Hitting a major flatline for several days, feel lifeless (I'm 19 days in)


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Nascimento - 07-07-2017 08:58 AM

(07-04-2017 05:51 PM)The Catalyst Wrote:  My main problem is as of late especially now it's winter here there's nothing to do, so I've always had a feeling of boredom and curiosity that instinctively I want to watch/binge on porn. Now I've probably relapsed 1-2/week on average in the past 3-4 months(in summer it was more like 1-2/month). This is even with a porn filter which I just click off when I have that urge. I think it's too easy to justify watching a little bit of it because I'm so bored and curious as to what girls would look like/do and then once I start even if I close it off it's all I think about for the next hour so I bring it up again.

I don't understand why it's been so difficult for me to quit porn I've never actually "wanted" to watch porn consciously for the past 2 years but somehow when I let my hindbrain take control it always makes excuses for why I should do it. But I never had any trouble say giving up junk food or coffee/caffeine- the moment I wanted to quit, I would give in for the first few weeks then quit cold turkey after.

Each time I relapsed I always vow to quit forever but I think I've gone through the same routine dozens of times. It always seems like I didn't put enough willpower in but if I relapse so reliably then there's probably something systematically wrong with my approach.

Right now NZ is just way too boring(especially in winter when you can't go to the beach or daygame) and it's difficult to make friends, so I don't know if the classic methods of breaking addiction/killing depression by doing activities/being social is all that effective. Porn(and fapping to it) is probably the thing creating the most misery right now so I would do something that's not even all that healthy just if it helps me quit. Boredom is the main culprit right now(it hasn't always been- before being tired/depressed/sexually frustrated were big reasons too, but as of late it's pretty much only boredom that makes me relapse) so I would do anything to kill boredom, even if it's not actually productive to my life(endlessly going on youtube, reading the forum, playing some free computer games that I'm getting bored of really quick, etc). Really don't know what I can do.

Every time I binge I have this loss of concentration and positivity and energy that lasts for 2-3 days. This is why I don't understand why I keep binging even though I know it would be really horrible for me.

The first thing you could do is work to remove the link between porn and fapping. If you find yourself relapsing and watching it, make sure you're not fapping to it, or stop. If the urge to fap is high, then stop watching porn and do your thing.

The worst you could do is do them both together.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Cattle Rustler - 07-12-2017 06:27 PM

Just completed 60 days less than 30 minutes ago.

Haven't fucked in a while. I'm going crazy I swear. My libido has jumped off a cliff, I don't think about fucking as much.....but when I talk to a girl I like and shit, get a woody with no issues.

Not sure if it's related to no fap....but lately all I've been thinking about is cumming inside some bitch and impregnating her. No fucks given, haven't thought about child support much and kinda don't care. I blame the forum for all its "reproduction talk" hahaha.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Mercenary - 07-12-2017 07:18 PM

(07-12-2017 06:27 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  Haven't fucked in a while. I'm going crazy I swear. My libido has jumped off a cliff, I don't think about fucking as much.....but when I talk to a girl I like and shit, get a woody with no issues.

Not sure if it's related to no fap....but lately all I've been thinking about is cumming inside some bitch and impregnating her. No fucks given, haven't thought about child support much and kinda don't care. I blame the forum for all its "reproduction talk" hahaha.


This is exactly the way it's supposed to be when you are a 100% healthy and virile man.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Ringo - 07-13-2017 08:47 AM

(07-12-2017 07:18 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 06:27 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  Haven't fucked in a while. I'm going crazy I swear. My libido has jumped off a cliff, I don't think about fucking as much.....but when I talk to a girl I like and shit, get a woody with no issues.

Not sure if it's related to no fap....but lately all I've been thinking about is cumming inside some bitch and impregnating her. No fucks given, haven't thought about child support much and kinda don't care. I blame the forum for all its "reproduction talk" hahaha.


This is exactly the way it's supposed to be when you are a 100% healthy and virile man.

I had the same thing during my 90 day run.

When I fantasized about banging, the main focus was obsessing over dick going raw into the girl's pussy. My mind would run that zoomed in image over and over and I couldn't stop imagining the feeling of slipping it in.

- - -

On a sidenote, it's been a few weeks since I quit the challenge after hitting my goal.

I've fapped a few times meanwhile but I can't look at fapping or porn the same way.

The pleasure from banging girls while on NoFap is incomparable. I felt like a lightning had hit me every time I ejaculated.

I've actually been keeping my whole weekdays free of any sexual stimulation so that I still get that feeling when I have sex on the weekends.

At this point I think I might be moving to a NoFap lifestyle because the rewards are just so awesome.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Celestial - 07-13-2017 09:42 PM

(07-13-2017 08:47 AM)Ringo Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 07:18 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 06:27 PM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  Haven't fucked in a while. I'm going crazy I swear. My libido has jumped off a cliff, I don't think about fucking as much.....but when I talk to a girl I like and shit, get a woody with no issues.

Not sure if it's related to no fap....but lately all I've been thinking about is cumming inside some bitch and impregnating her. No fucks given, haven't thought about child support much and kinda don't care. I blame the forum for all its "reproduction talk" hahaha.


This is exactly the way it's supposed to be when you are a 100% healthy and virile man.

I had the same thing during my 90 day run.

When I fantasized about banging, the main focus was obsessing over dick going raw into the girl's pussy. My mind would run that zoomed in image over and over and I couldn't stop imagining the feeling of slipping it in.

- - -

On a sidenote, it's been a few weeks since I quit the challenge after hitting my goal.

I've fapped a few times meanwhile but I can't look at fapping or porn the same way.

The pleasure from banging girls while on NoFap is incomparable. I felt like a lightning had hit me every time I ejaculated.

I've actually been keeping my whole weekdays free of any sexual stimulation so that I still get that feeling when I have sex on the weekends.

At this point I think I might be moving to a NoFap lifestyle because the rewards are just so awesome.

+1 to the raw dogging desire, that was literally in my mind all day and I'm nearly 4 weeks into no fap / no porn. Was so strong needed to go for a run even after the gym to get my mind off it.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Kurgan - 07-13-2017 09:43 PM

I managed to hold it for a week, but blew it afterwards due to doing too much work at work. I do feel more motivated to do things.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - MrTickle - 07-14-2017 03:32 AM

I'm doing a reset and making this day 1 for me. Going on holiday for 2 weeks tomorrow so will get a good start to this with change or routine and scenery. I've mastered a lot of things in life (drinking, fitness etc.) but this goal has always eluded me. I'm expecting a rough ride for the next 90 days or so as I have decades of habit to change.

It can be done.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - redbeard - 07-14-2017 11:25 PM

Still going strong. Almost 9 months of NoFap done.

I've replaced my porn habit with watching hippy girls on YouTube. It's like nicotine gum.





However the very sexy Dr. Rhonda lost 1/10 point when at 3:15 she spills and doesn't clean up until the videos over.