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RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Heuristics - 04-01-2019 12:56 PM

(04-01-2019 12:50 PM)Bananaman711 Wrote:  No Fap taken to extreme can be dangerous thing, once i went on a 2 weeks without PMO ended up banging a granny who looked hard 8 at the time, after i busted a nut inside her she turned into 3.

I get very aggressive when go without O for longer than a few days , what i have noticed is that cutting red meat from diet help keep aggression and its easier to fall asleep without a Need to cum.
Good strategy is to go vegetarian or semi vegetarian, you got to adjust your diet or else all these energy will fuck up your mind.
Having 400g raw steak is not helping unless you can channel it somehow but for most guys its real tough.

I went out on christmas (day 35 of nofap, longest streak for me ever) and some chick was prancing all over me... I don't know what it was but I must of smelled of testostrone or something. Needless to say, I didn't want to fuck her, but my body language and my penis was telling me a different story. I nearly got beat up by her friends later just because of the fact that SHE was all over me.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - BortimusPrime - 04-01-2019 07:12 PM

Heh, I just got a good incentive to drop the porno. So some asshole on a porn forum was claiming he'd seen some pussy shots of this really beautiful titty model on a site but they had disappeared. So I figured I could just write a bash script that would crawl the image directory of the website to see if there was anything there. Now my porn machine is my desktop pc, but .bat scripting is annoying so I figured I'll just do it on my mac laptop with an easy bash script. Didn't actually find anything, but the salient part is that now my non-porn machine has a directory filled with softcore nudity.

So just now I'm at Starbucks and the stupid fucking computer decides to spontaneously open the finder, pointed to just that directory with a nice big thumbnail image of a naked lady covering half the screen and the window itself is in some fullscreen mode so I can't immediately see where to click to close the window and I hit the power button in a panic. Then the computer restarts and can't find the OS and brings up the disk utility so now I'm thinking "oh shit I fried the HD somehow". Luckily the second restart was normal.

So the moral of the story is don't masturbate or else when you go to a coffee shop a fat middle-aged Chinese woman that's staring in your general direction might see something.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Batman_ - 04-01-2019 07:39 PM

(03-27-2019 09:29 AM)VNvet Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 05:18 PM)Batman_ Wrote:  It's all bullshit when you account for placebo.

If it changes your reality, then how is it bullshit?

My point being, there is no such thing as a placebo. You either get the desired result OR you don't. Placebo was just invented by the pharmaceutical industry to discount alternative treatment methods.

It's also been shown that people in AA are successful because the mere belief in a greater power can change their reality. I'm not discrediting the placebo effect as a powerful thing.

But I'd like people to stop spreading so much anecdote and speculation. This is new ground and there is way too much misinformation.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Heuristics - 04-01-2019 09:17 PM

(04-01-2019 07:39 PM)Batman_ Wrote:  
(03-27-2019 09:29 AM)VNvet Wrote:  
(03-07-2019 05:18 PM)Batman_ Wrote:  It's all bullshit when you account for placebo.

If it changes your reality, then how is it bullshit?

My point being, there is no such thing as a placebo. You either get the desired result OR you don't. Placebo was just invented by the pharmaceutical industry to discount alternative treatment methods.

It's also been shown that people in AA are successful because the mere belief in a greater power can change their reality. I'm not discrediting the placebo effect as a powerful thing.

But I'd like people to stop spreading so much anecdote and speculation. This is new ground and there is way too much misinformation.

I agree the mind is a powerful thing. Strangely enough, AA doesn't release numbers on the effectiveness of their program; take that as you will. It also has a quasi-religious component, which for some people, qualifies it as cult-like.

The fundamental problem here is the lack of research on the effects of pornography, and that the medical establishment, especially the sexologists are pushing porn as well as masturbation. (I think this is the result of that whack Kinsey guy who basically made a lot of shit up, and has put the profession on a bad foundation). The research will only arrive too late, and at that point, we will already be fucked. Exercise caution towards any assumptions on memes the establishment pushes on you.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - VNvet - 04-02-2019 02:35 AM

(04-01-2019 12:50 PM)Bananaman711 Wrote:  No Fap taken to extreme can be dangerous thing, once i went on a 2 weeks without PMO ended up banging a granny who looked hard 8 at the time, after i busted a nut inside her she turned into 3.

I get very aggressive when go without O for longer than a few days , what i have noticed is that cutting red meat from diet help keep aggression and its easier to fall asleep without a Need to cum.
Good strategy is to go vegetarian or semi vegetarian, you got to adjust your diet or else all these energy will fuck up your mind.
Having 400g raw steak is not helping unless you can channel it somehow but for most guys its real tough.

This sounds more like a case of you lacking self-control than anything related to NoFap. Or perhaps you're experiencing withdraw symptoms.

Anyway, getting "very aggressive" after a few days without O is certainly not normal.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Heuristics - 04-08-2019 09:01 AM

Back at it again 16 days. One of my longest streaks ever. Hoping I can continue positively channeling all this extra energy I have into productive outlets.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - KnjazMihailo - 04-08-2019 09:15 AM

(04-01-2019 09:30 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  


Its actually a pretty interesting video, especially given the guy is a family man with 3 kids. He absolutely gets down to the core of what it does to you.

His only solution is really go to Church and pray lol. Despite this sounding silly when i first heard it, its actually something seriously worth considering and a small inconvenience if it actually works. I know i'd personally have no problem at least crossing myself for good luck when i wake up and before i go to sleep.

The church and religion really was a major core of European society for hundreds and thousands of years and its destruction and subversion is partly to blame for the lack of restrains on porn access. Until the late 19th century, it was hard to find any form of porn being publicly distributed.

RIP Old World Order.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - JohannesAusPrag - 04-08-2019 04:03 PM

Failed many times and stopped trying for some time, I've decided to make more changes than just nofap so I hope that at least some of them sticks.

Going for permanent no porn and as long as I can between faps, ideally no solo for a long long time which could help me finally start opening, talking and gaming girls again.

day 0 today.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - sterling_archer - 04-09-2019 01:43 AM

Had wet dream this night and this time I am not mad, because I needed a bit of a release without failing. Again I couldn't fall asleep for some time afterwards but all is well.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - KnjazMihailo - 04-11-2019 06:42 AM

Damn. I cracked earlier this week on Monday and Tuesday. It was the worst thing. First time i opened up my smartphone to look at some porn images. I hate myself so much because i gave in like that ...

I think i might have to try a different strategy. Like trying to rebound the frustrations of this partially onto other addictions. Smoking cigarettes, video games, eating fast/junk food. Of course, i don't actually want to become addicted to any of these other things either but use them as a counterweight i resort to if i ever get PMO cravings.

Besides this i'm out of ideas as i literally might seriously start going to church once a week and praying/crossing myself.

Its otherwise a massive major psychological and physiological battle (given how it physically alters your brain) and given i've gone 2 months without it at all, i'm sure i can at least pull off another 2. I'll aim for 90 days and hopefully not touch it again. Apparently for some people it takes 2 years not to get drawn into it. Hopefully i'm not one of those who require that long to truly recover ...


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Ruslan - 04-12-2019 04:28 PM

A bit of a show off, just to encourage others. 465 days clean.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - BalanceLife - 04-14-2019 06:56 PM

I am on day 30 of no porn (give or take two days), I feel more energized but could be placebo effect. What I know for sure I have more is TIME - more time to do more things, especially late nights are not wasted watching an hour of porn. Another positive effect is that I have less stereotype of women wanting only huge dicks, and other shit stuff that the porn industry is feeding its viewers.

I am still fapping weekly though. I am counting maybe twice a week roughly twice a week - usually fantasizing/reminiscing about my previous lays.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - BalanceLife - 04-14-2019 08:15 PM

(01-20-2019 04:40 PM)Rush_More Wrote:  The main problem I've had with no fap is that I start to develop the rapefugee mentality, I literally will fuck anything, but maybe that's a good thing? Not sure about this. If I stop myself from fapping, I guess banging any random hoe is my bodies way of telling me to reproduce regardless of who it is.

Porn already shows us a glimpse of our future. The guys at home fapping to the girls of their dreams, and the guys who are more realistic and actually get bangs in the real world. It's very scary but I feel modern porn is a big reason behind guys who give up finding a girlfriend, because why opt for a normal 4/10 when you have millions of 10's just a click away on your screen? The whole VR craze will only make it much worse. Porn has been normalised so much in society that I don't see it getting banned any time soon, unfortunately.

Porn has given us expectations that is out of touch with realities.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - JohannesAusPrag - 04-15-2019 04:03 PM

I didn't really expected that I would last a week, well day 0 again for me, This time hopefully longer.. Can't imagine spending time on pr0n on trip to Kyiv.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Geomann180 - 04-16-2019 10:53 AM

Day zero. Really wishing I hadn't discovered porn so early.

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RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - VNvet - 04-22-2019 01:17 AM

(10-30-2016 12:29 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  Flucuations in energy levels day to day and also week to week are normal. Progress in nofap is NON LINEAR.

Sooner or later you will enter the FLATLINE phase where your body does the real healing. This is when a lot of guys get real scared beacuse it's common to go from 5 to 30 days in a row feeling like you have the dead useless dick of a 90 year old man. During that time guys get so paranoid that they will never have another erection again that they "test" themselves with porn, erotic stories, or simply non nude sexy photos. That is where many guys cave in. Realise that the flatline period is the worst part of rebooting, but also the one where your body is doing the most inner healing from years of self abuse. The flatline lasts different amounts of time for each man but you must get through it with the knowledge that your libido will come back stronger than ever.

Also - DO NOT EDGE !

Edging is very dangerous. Even if you manage to stop yourself in time your dick will be filled with cum and thats the worst place for it to be if your not going to follow through. Also edging takes away your nofap skin glow....your head gets hot and sweaty (sometimes oily) and you have already started undoing your progress. When you feel the need to edge while in bed, lie on your back and put your fapping hand behind your back and apply pressure so you cant move it until the urge goes away. If the urge does not go away, go to the shower and apply ice cold water onto your whole head and hands. Generally cold showers are very good to stop emergency situations, but if thats not possible ice cold water on the hands and head should do the trick. DO NOT TOUCH YOUR DICK !!!

Remember - a full reboot takes a MINIMUM of 90 days...no less. Yes, 3 whole months is the minimum you need to reach to see lasting improvements.

Doing this long term is one of the most difficult thing most men will attempt in their lives....stay vigilant, stay away from triggers, block porn on your devices, and most of all if you relapse one time....do not binge. One single failure does not undo all your progress, but 3 or more failures in a row will. Dont try to achieve perfection as this is impossible, rather be like a boxer who got knocked out cold by his opponent, but instead of giving up and staying on the floor like a fucking loser, he got straight back up and kept fighting. The guy who keeps fighting despite many setbacks, is the guy who eventually wins big.




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Quoting this because it can help a lot of guys.

Currently at around 110 days and can confirm everything said is true.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - KnjazMihailo - 04-22-2019 06:54 AM

(04-22-2019 01:17 AM)VNvet Wrote:  
(10-30-2016 12:29 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  Flucuations in energy levels day to day and also week to week are normal. Progress in nofap is NON LINEAR.

Sooner or later you will enter the FLATLINE phase where your body does the real healing. This is when a lot of guys get real scared beacuse it's common to go from 5 to 30 days in a row feeling like you have the dead useless dick of a 90 year old man. During that time guys get so paranoid that they will never have another erection again that they "test" themselves with porn, erotic stories, or simply non nude sexy photos. That is where many guys cave in. Realise that the flatline period is the worst part of rebooting, but also the one where your body is doing the most inner healing from years of self abuse. The flatline lasts different amounts of time for each man but you must get through it with the knowledge that your libido will come back stronger than ever.

Also - DO NOT EDGE !

Edging is very dangerous. Even if you manage to stop yourself in time your dick will be filled with cum and thats the worst place for it to be if your not going to follow through. Also edging takes away your nofap skin glow....your head gets hot and sweaty (sometimes oily) and you have already started undoing your progress. When you feel the need to edge while in bed, lie on your back and put your fapping hand behind your back and apply pressure so you cant move it until the urge goes away. If the urge does not go away, go to the shower and apply ice cold water onto your whole head and hands. Generally cold showers are very good to stop emergency situations, but if thats not possible ice cold water on the hands and head should do the trick. DO NOT TOUCH YOUR DICK !!!

Remember - a full reboot takes a MINIMUM of 90 days...no less. Yes, 3 whole months is the minimum you need to reach to see lasting improvements.

Doing this long term is one of the most difficult thing most men will attempt in their lives....stay vigilant, stay away from triggers, block porn on your devices, and most of all if you relapse one time....do not binge. One single failure does not undo all your progress, but 3 or more failures in a row will. Dont try to achieve perfection as this is impossible, rather be like a boxer who got knocked out cold by his opponent, but instead of giving up and staying on the floor like a fucking loser, he got straight back up and kept fighting. The guy who keeps fighting despite many setbacks, is the guy who eventually wins big.




[Image: tumblr_o8bfb7JVoX1qmzguio1_1280.jpg]

Quoting this because it can help a lot of guys.

Currently at around 110 days and can confirm everything said is true.

I also agree with this. I'm not sure whether i've gone so far by not doing it for one week, or two weeks, more, less or inbetween.

It doesn't matter to me at all since i never bothered to begin counting it.

What matters to me is that i've been able to No PMO for several days, i'll do my best to continue forever hopefully. I'm at least hopeful to beat my best ever record of No PMO for 2 months. 3 or more months will hopefully be enough to get me past any form of tempting impulses.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Geomann180 - 04-22-2019 01:25 PM

Day 2 -nofap nopron

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RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Donfitz007 - 04-23-2019 10:30 AM

Couple things that helped me are

1. Can u imagine your role model or favorite fictional character beating it? Can you imagine Batman or James Bond beating it in between missions?

2. Do you like having something so inefficient being the cause of your lack of control.

3. Would your ancestors look down upon you in disgust or pride if they caught you doing it

These helped me get to so far 50 days...so far I’ve had but 2 urges. I can improve more but I’m somewhat satisfied with my efforts so far


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Zenta - 04-23-2019 02:31 PM

(04-23-2019 10:30 AM)Donfitz007 Wrote:  Couple things that helped me are

1. Can u imagine your role model or favorite fictional character beating it? Can you imagine Batman or James Bond beating it in between missions?

2. Do you like having something so inefficient being the cause of your lack of control.

3. Would your ancestors look down upon you in disgust or pride if they caught you doing it

These helped me get to so far 50 days...so far I’ve had but 2 urges. I can improve more but I’m somewhat satisfied with my efforts so far

I like the role model angle, good one. I've fallen off the wagon lately and need to get back on it.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - bgbusiness - 04-24-2019 02:37 AM

What I noticed was eating a lot of eggs makes my testosterone level go up exponentially, drives up my energy.
I am on Day 7 right now, not feeling that bad at all to be honest, but 5~6 look like 7s and 8s look like 9s.

The thing that helped me the most is consciously realizing when I am going to P websites and cutting myself off.
I also have my phone & laptop in the living room when I sleep, so I don't have any devices/machine near me.
(What I noticed is that I might just check my phone or check my internet at night and them, "boom" - I am done.)
So I just cut that circuit and don't have them near me at night. I have to go to the living room to turn off my alarm, so that helps me wake up too.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Frostbite - 04-24-2019 10:06 AM

Anyone with any success stories of 1 year+ no porn whatsoever?


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - felix_vagabondo - 04-24-2019 11:31 AM

(10-16-2017 08:46 PM)Lucky Wrote:  Keep moving forward gents, the benefits will come.

The body is a primordial bio-physical machine with reproductive instincts that form the stock configuration for our species. So we should expect notches to come naturally when artificially-induced orgasms are ceased. The being is now called by his instinct to mate to perform sex acts on the opposite sex, and the uncanny and dogged intelligence of the primordial brain will lead a beast to his mate.

One need only step away from the artificial stimulation of pornographic images and allow the boner to just be. Having done Eastern meditation and yoga quite a bit, I know how it feels to sit with a sensation without spontaneously reacting. Even if I delay my reaction by a split second, I've strengthened my equanimity. Sensations will always subside. It's amazing how the waves of sensation--the yearning, craving to jerk off--will subside eventually if you don't indulge them. On the other hand, if you give in, it reinforces the mind to generate that particular craving again, so that it can get its fix of dopamine.

When the fapstronaut has reached peak testosterone and is exceptionally horny, his sweat will smell better to women, he will have more energy and drive, and he will have laser-like focus and full throttle motivation for scoring a notch--so that he can drain his engorged balls.

The other night I had a girl lined up that had called me, and she was waiting for me to go home so that she could come over. But My horny-ness from nofap was so strong that I ended up flaking, since I was driven like a rabid wolf to score with the hottest, youngest babe that I could find. It doesn't hurt that I had been warmed up socially in advance by shooting the shit with a trusted friend, and then went out solo and wound up at a bar that has landed me solid, consistent results. A couple of friendly random dudes were hanging around, and we started joking around with each other. So by the time some random young chicks roll into the club, I've developed some rapport with the other dudes around the place, and on an animal level we are acting like a gang of dudes that own the place.. That looks really good to a woman, if you have social membership or recognition by other men, even if it as flimsy and temporary as taking part in communication with a few random guys at a bar for a couple hours.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Stay - 04-25-2019 03:15 AM

Iv mocked no fap in the past and I would probably never attempt it outside of a place I couldn’t realistically get 1 new bang a week. In Vietnam where I’m based at moment 1-3(new bangs)is quite realistic.

Iv been an insane fapper through out my life e.g busting 6-10 nuts in a day was a common occurrence on hungover sundays in the past. I’d bust a nut literally anytime I felt bored. I always managed to get it up so I thought I was just fine however some observations.... This is from with holding for 3-7 days.

1. I would not say I struggled with premature ejaculation while fucking in the past however if I were to bring up the intensity to maximum it was near impossible to go for any length of meaningful time without wanting to bust. When I’ve given myself a break I actually need to be in that zone for a decent amount of time to actually get off.

2. My erections got noticeably stronger. Beforehand during sex I’d actually have to tense my pc muscle to pump my cock harder during sex which in turn makes you feel the whole time your sacrificing intensity for not blowing your load too soon. Now I’m just rigid without trying absolutely no tending of pc muscle. I believe my pc muscle was exhausted in past. Some people’s is weak though. Not exhausted.

3. Browsing dating apps and any kind of sexual tension even non physical contact would get me rigid as hell.

4. I don’t just have more desire for sex but my other hobbies and interests too. I wake up in a far better mood.

My thought are on finding optimum energy cycle. For me I’m thinking 2 days build up then aiming for bangs on dates on the third. I may consider still banging birds on my rest days but with holding from ejaculation.

The only reason I even consider it though is because of the ease of getting laid in SEA.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Geomann180 - 04-25-2019 09:54 AM

Day 4.

The biggest help is having a new girl in my stable after being without for a while.

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