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RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Comte De St. Germain - 03-09-2016 08:11 PM

Wooooo

Day 7

Changes I've noticed

-I'm way more aggressive in general. I smoke cigs faster, more likely to speak or be assertive in conversation, and I've been told several times that I'm walking more confidently/naturally like I own the place.

-Most people complain about being unable to focus on certain things and goofing off because of no fap, but for me its the opposite. I'm more liable to focus and work on things and pay attention to what I'm working on. In between games of chess with friends today as they were playing against each other I got more work done in that 30 minute time period than I did in an 1.5 hours of work. In general I feel more motivated to focus.

-I've had more girls ask me questions uninhibited before I interested them with anything. Was in a hurry today as I was late due to certain circumstances and I chatted up a girl on my walk to my next location. It was just casual to get me warmed up, but there was more interest there than would normally be there. This became a pattern later throughout my day too. It feels good. Starting to see more pretty girls everywhere too.

-More cognizant of my surroundings. I would describe my days usually as a slight blur besides moments I was smoking and observing my surroundings, but everything just looks sharper in general now.

-The urge is stronger than ever. I feel sometimes that any borderline girl or slightly below borderline will do right now(scary since I'm sober). Thankfully that part goes away the second I spot a fattie. I still feel like I constantly need to wank, and the only way for it go away is to put my mind to something else or do some light physical exercise(planking, push ups, crunches, etc.).

-Adding on to the above. I actually see fatties in my field of vision again that I'm not forced to deal with. It's harder to ignore them now though all it does is shrink my semi-boner after spotting a nice ass beforehand.

Cheers and all the best,

H


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - King of Monkeys - 03-10-2016 01:22 AM

I'm on Day 4. I don't know if it's no fap or not, but I've been more engaged in socializing than I was the previous day. I usually run out of things to say and the conversation runs dry, but I was able to hold it out for a decent amount of time with three different people. I think a fairly cute asian girl was into me, but it became hard to focus on her face when I could see her cleavage hanging out less than a foot away from me.

I'm also getting hornier. It's taking effort to focus on what's in front of me and not what's below me.

How do you handle getting boners at the gym? It's hard to hide when I'm wearing loose shorts or if I'm laying down, and I don't know if I can keep it down when a cute girl walks by.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - The Black Knight - 03-10-2016 03:34 AM

I've tried nofap before in the past year and I've gotten up to 45 days without any porn or jerking it before having a relapse. Did another 45 days (had a mini-relationship going this time which helped) before having another relapse and haven't really cared since but I think it's time to really do this no bullshit 90 days (no porn/sexual images /jerking; sex yes). Things I noticed during past nofap cycles:

1. Increase desire to fuck anything that is over 18, remotely fuckable, and has a pulse; especially in the first few weeks. The tension frankly came to be overwhelming and borderline dangerous at times. I like the increased hunger but it really can be dangerous if you don't have an outlet to reliably channel (steady FWB/LTR).

Since I don't like new random notches or want to fuck questionable women (like in concept, don't like the risk and time investment involved I mean), this was a bit of an issue. I much rather jerk it than risk knocking up some random slut.

2. I wasn't a fan of how easy it was for me to bust a nut during nofap. Part of the reason for the second relapse was that I rubbed one out prior a 1st date (got the bang). It was absolutely critical for me at least during nofap to jerk the night before to take the edge off. Otherwise, it would have been a very quick round 1 for the chick and that's a no good for a 1st bang. I suppose you could fuck a FWB/LTR chick the night before to combat this.

3. Boner quality did improve during nofap a bit and became worse during relapses.

4. I noticed during the 45 day cycles that shit that hadn't given me boners since my teenage years (PICTURES of women in modest clothes) was doing the job. During the second relapse, I increasingly up the dosage slowly: from modest pics, to pics of co-eds in bikinis, to softcore porn, to eventually hardcore porn. Modest pics weren't doing shit for me once again. I'm guessing my brain was on its way to re-wiring itself and I fucked that up. There was something oddly exciting and intoxicating with every level increase initially but the effects wore off fairly quickly with each level increase until I ended up back where I was pre-nofap.

As I said, I think I'm going to give nofap another shot and try to go for 90 days this time. No porn/sexual images/jerking.

I have consider making an exception for 1st date bangs where I would rub one out the night before but I have concerns that could trigger a relapse. Gonna have to mull over it for a bit.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - redbeard - 03-10-2016 08:04 AM

(03-10-2016 01:22 AM)King of Monkeys Wrote:  How do you handle getting boners at the gym? It's hard to hide when I'm wearing loose shorts or if I'm laying down, and I don't know if I can keep it down when a cute girl walks by.

Focus on your workout more, reduce rest periods, wear compression shorts.

Take preworkout, caffeine and stimulants. This'll keep your attention jumping over the place, which in this case is a good thing.

I don't take preworkout mixes (ripoff) but I take a little bit of Beta Alanine before lifting and it gives me a little bit of twitch/focus without the negatives of stimulants or caffeine.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Comte De St. Germain - 03-10-2016 08:21 AM

(03-10-2016 03:34 AM)The Black Knight Wrote:  I have consider making an exception for 1st date bangs where I would rub one out the night before but I have concerns that could trigger a relapse. Gonna have to mull over it for a bit.

Perhaps having said girl blow you before you go in? If you're going to fap before dates though just use your mind. Better than getting used to 2d images again I imagine.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - The Black Knight - 03-11-2016 12:45 AM

(03-10-2016 08:21 AM)hwuzhere Wrote:  
(03-10-2016 03:34 AM)The Black Knight Wrote:  I have consider making an exception for 1st date bangs where I would rub one out the night before but I have concerns that could trigger a relapse. Gonna have to mull over it for a bit.

Perhaps having said girl blow you before you go in? If you're going to fap before dates though just use your mind. Better than getting used to 2d images again I imagine.

Yeah, I had the same thoughts. Definitely gonna try to avoid any fap with pics/videos and keep it to my imaginative thoughts if I got do it.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - redbeard - 03-11-2016 08:40 AM

(03-11-2016 12:45 AM)The Black Knight Wrote:  
(03-10-2016 08:21 AM)hwuzhere Wrote:  
(03-10-2016 03:34 AM)The Black Knight Wrote:  I have consider making an exception for 1st date bangs where I would rub one out the night before but I have concerns that could trigger a relapse. Gonna have to mull over it for a bit.

Perhaps having said girl blow you before you go in? If you're going to fap before dates though just use your mind. Better than getting used to 2d images again I imagine.

Yeah, I had the same thoughts. Definitely gonna try to avoid any fap with pics/videos and keep it to my imaginative thoughts if I got do it.

I used to hold the same policy: "only fap before first dates so I can murder the pussy the first night." After a while I ditched this policy because it ended up being more of a bandaid for the following reasons:

-Nobody bangs 100% on the first date. If you don't bang, you are ending your streak for pussy. Goals > girls.

-Low energy during dates. NoFap gives much more charged sexual energy and it definitely affects my date game. I would much rather be a high energy, sexual animal who lasts only a few minutes vs. a low energy guy who can pound it out.

-Even if you bang, this still isn't a NoFap challenge. It's like saying "oh yeah I'm on the No Alcohol Wagon, but I drink for dates." Wrong! Not a true wagon. Fapping before a date still wastes time, requires porn, etc.

-Even if you bang a girl's brain out on the first date, what's next? How about the next time you hang out? What if it's been a week, are you gonna jerk off before every time you see her? No, you need to develop better habits.

Dealing with increased sensitivity is one of the problems we as players will face with the NoFap challenge. Most /r/nofappers are incels or in committed relationships so it isn't discussed much.

I have to run now but have a post about coming soon coming soon. Wink


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - King of Monkeys - 03-11-2016 08:41 PM

I'm on Day 6. Last night I had a dream where my subconscious took the forms of different girls. When I rejected the porn each girl offered me, my subconscious started being a dick and made fun of me for quitting porn, so I walked away.

I'm also getting an urge in my gut that's telling me to fap. I've never made it past 5 days without fapping, so this is getting tougher as I go along.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - dopvlur - 03-12-2016 01:28 AM

In the wagon since december 29, that day also stopped drinking, been mashing my main weekly and just had other 2 notches. Sex drive changing every few days.

Lot of positive changes, but been having nightmares frequently, don't know if it's the abstinence of porn, jerk or alcohol. Surviving just watching a few minutes of Golden Channel sober at night, it's so hard the day after sex.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - The Black Knight - 03-12-2016 05:45 AM

(03-11-2016 08:40 AM)redbeard Wrote:  I used to hold the same policy: "only fap before first dates so I can murder the pussy the first night." After a while I ditched this policy because it ended up being more of a bandaid for the following reasons:

-Nobody bangs 100% on the first date. If you don't bang, you are ending your streak for pussy. Goals > girls.

I usually can predict a bang now and I only jerked it if I was very confident things were going down. But I know what you're getting at. It's a risk vs reward thing. Is a potentially minor setback on the nofap front worth it to maybe lock down a new plate because you fucked her good the 1st time? Since I'm pretty selective with the women I bang and usually aim to turn 1st bangs into reliable low-maintenance plates, I will generally lean towards maximizing the odds of banging a chick right for the 1st bang.

Quote:-Low energy during dates. NoFap gives much more charged sexual energy and it definitely affects my date game. I would much rather be a high energy, sexual animal who lasts only a few minutes vs. a low energy guy who can pound it out

This didn't apply to me. I could still tear it up and be high energy; the one pre-date fap just took enough edge off so I didn't bust in 30 seconds. The super high energy is useful when running game but can be counter-productive in the bedroom with 1st bangs.

Obviously, I think busting in a few minutes for a first bang is never good; especially if you are one and done type of person (which is how I role). First impressions set the tone and I like to fuck chicks like it's the last fuck of their lives; not having to make up for last ground after the fact. You can get away with SO much later on if you fuck a chick right the first time; its a bit insane really.

Quote:-Even if you bang a girl's brain out on the first date, what's next? How about the next time you hang out? What if it's been a week, are you gonna jerk off before every time you see her? No, you need to develop better habits.

Wasn't an issue since I usually get consistent sex from a chick after a first bang. Also, I think if you lay the pipe down good the 1st bang, a chick will be a lot more forgiving when you do a quick bang later on; on the account that she is already is into you and knows you can fuck her a good long while if needed.

As most guys know, you might only get one shot to fuck a chick and make an impression and therefore, being another guy that busts his load in 2 minutes is not something that will help get repeat bangs generally speaking. She will immediately associate you with other losers who bust early and then you have to fight those impressions/associations to re-set thing things back on course. In this day and age, I don't see a chick being understanding and willing to wait things out a few bangs to see if you can fuck her good or not; she has 50 guys between 3 online dating platforms that could potentially fuck her good TONIGHT. The game is stacked against us enough as it is and I'm not going to handicap myself anymore than necessary.

Quote:Dealing with increased sensitivity is one of the problems we as players will face with the NoFap challenge. Most /r/nofappers are incels or in committed relationships so it isn't discussed much.

Yeah, no kidding haha. The increased sensitivity is mostly an issue when there has been a 2 week gap since the last bang. After 2 weeks, it's like the wind could make me bust a nut. Kind of hilarious but also a bit obnoxious.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - King of Monkeys - 03-12-2016 06:15 PM

I've made it to Day 7. I'm working to avoid temptation, but it's usually harder when it's late at night. My boners are lasting longer, but I don't know how much longer I can keep this up.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - CameraXL - 03-13-2016 02:58 PM

Day 19 here. I want to make it 90 days, but its getting harder everyday. Longest I made it in 2016 was 25 days. Steady blue-balling.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - DrCotard - 03-13-2016 07:59 PM

Today I relapsed hard from porn (I saw a pair of nudes on Twitter, which triggered me). I had 48 days without viewing porn.

It will be hard to gain momentum again to rewire my brain, but I'm confident I'm gonna get rid of this addiction.

In this time doing NoFap my sleep quality has worsened. I can sleep only for a short time and later I wake up. Getting proper sleep has been very difficult for me since I'm doing this challenge.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - CameraXL - 03-14-2016 12:24 AM

Day 19 here. I want to make it 90 days, but its getting harder everyday. Longest I made it in 2016 was 25 days. Steady blue-balling.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Comte De St. Germain - 03-14-2016 09:42 AM

I broke.

2 long days stuck getting work done did me in. I was just about to head into town later today too and I would have revived my motivation to continue if I had. Fuck I feel like shit and I didn't even get a good wank in before I started feeling like shit.

Day 1

Let's go.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - JohannesAusPrag - 03-14-2016 11:50 AM

I have to admit that I relapsed too after a week at Sunday 13th March.

It was not to porn, but to photos of girls I knew IRL and are attention seekers who sent me their pics for whatever reasons, this for me means less worse mood than case of relapsing to "real" porn at least I had to work my way to get those photos.
Reason why I had to jack off was weird pain I felt in my crotch, it was like my balls should explode soon and I also couldn't even focus on simple repetitive tasks. So at least this was not my usual drunk relapse.

Still I relapsed so I am counting my streak from day one since today.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Isaac Jordan - 03-14-2016 12:31 PM

After going strong all of last year I relapsed recently as well. I've started day gaming on a college campus, and hours spent each day staring at tight young bodies in those goddamn yoga pants has sent my sex drive into...well, overdrive. A good problem to have, I suppose.

The one thing that's really helped me since I started NoFap might sound stupid, but I promise if you try it you'll be surprised at how effective it is. The next time you feel that urge to jerk it come up, say to yourself OUT LOUD:

"Don't touch your dick."

Seriously, say it out loud. Do it sternly, confidently. Like you're telling a child to keep his hands out of the cookie jar. Look in a mirror if you've got one nearby while you say it.

"Don't touch your dick."

Nothing bad can happen if you don't touch your dick.

Maybe you can't stop yourself from scrolling through the spring break photos that are about to flood Facebook. Maybe you get a lewd snapchat from a plate. Maybe your date flaked and you've been thinking about fucking all day and your computer's up and wouldn't it be so easy to just hop on over to pornhub and watch a couple of videos to help you get to sleep.

"Don't touch your dick."

You can't control the urges. You can't control the shit life throws at you. And if you're like me, once your hand makes physical contact with your junk it's game over. The animal hindbrain takes control and my rational self is just along for the ride.

The one thing you can control is not touching your dick.

JUST. SAY. NO.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - booshala - 03-14-2016 01:21 PM

Just curious on the sentiment with the "no porn" group here: Does it count if you're watching videos of yourself and other girls and jerking off to that? I'm 80% convinced at the negative effects that porn has on brain wiring, so I deleted all the porn on my phone/ipad/computers and have been pretty good about not watching porn/jerking it for the past year.

However, I was flying Etihad first class a few days ago and in the onboard shower I thought it was my patriotic duty to rub one out at 40,000 feet... ended up using one of my older sex vids I had on my phone to get me there.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - King of Monkeys - 03-14-2016 07:34 PM

I'm here at Day 9. Wherever I go, sex is sitting in the back of my mind. I'm starting to get random boners popping up now and again, but they don't last too long.

This is the longest I've gone without masturbating besides a year ago. The first time I ever masturbated was when I was 19, so I don't know how strong of an effect porn has on me.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Travesty - 03-14-2016 07:56 PM

(03-09-2016 08:11 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  -Most people complain about being unable to focus on certain things and goofing off because of no fap, but for me its the opposite.

We'll see if you can keep this up.

This is the #1 problem with me and no fap. If I didn't need to sit and focus for work and was just a wandering wealthy playboy it would be amazing.

When I do no fap long term I cannot concentrate on work for long periods. I start literally resenting everything about having to concentrate when I want to be out daygaming or drinking and nightgaming instead.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - King of Monkeys - 03-15-2016 01:01 AM

I lost it at a black booty in yoga pants. Back to Day 1 starting tomorrow.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - OregonToSoCal - 03-15-2016 11:07 AM

(03-14-2016 07:56 PM)Travesty Wrote:  
(03-09-2016 08:11 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  -Most people complain about being unable to focus on certain things and goofing off because of no fap, but for me its the opposite.

We'll see if you can keep this up.

This is the #1 problem with me and no fap. If I didn't need to sit and focus for work and was just a wandering wealthy playboy it would be amazing.

When I do no fap long term I cannot concentrate on work for long periods. I start literally resenting everything about having to concentrate when I want to be out daygaming or drinking and nightgaming instead.

Same here. There's always all of this talk about having laser focus while on nofap but for me if it's been more than 3-4 days since my last release I'm an angry, jittery, ADD mess.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Felix88 - 03-16-2016 02:56 AM

30 days reporting in, I feel a lot better, more energy, playfulness and flirting come to me naturally. Aim for 45 days now.

I'm using a habit tracking app on my phone and track it with other habits, make it a lot easier to mange.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - redbeard - 03-16-2016 07:03 AM

(03-16-2016 02:56 AM)Felix88 Wrote:  I'm using a habit tracking app on my phone and track it with other habits, make it a lot easier to mange.

Which app? How's it going? I used chains.cc for a while but was never updated it enough.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Felix88 - 03-16-2016 08:16 AM

I use the infinite chain app for my windows Phone, very simple and easy to use interface that does the job. I like the domino effect after you acquired a few good habits others habit follow naturally, 2016 is truly a good year.

Also self talk is helping me a great deal.