Roosh V Forum
NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Printable Version

+- Roosh V Forum (https://www.rooshvforum.com)
+-- Forum: Main (/forum-1.html)
+--- Forum: Life (/forum-14.html)
+--- Thread: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious (/thread-12879.html)



RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - King of Monkeys - 05-06-2016 01:49 AM

Back to day 1 again. I get overly horny after a couple days, but porn just isn't doing it for me anymore. Even waiting out longer periods between masturbating is no longer leading to a satisfying orgasm.

If I'm going to make it through this, I need to solidify my determination to stop fapping to porn. Otherwise, it's only a matter of time before I fall back into old habits.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Zona - 05-06-2016 11:37 AM

(05-04-2016 07:30 AM)redbeard Wrote:  Here's a topic for discussion - what would you do if you had a son? In regards to porn/masturbation.

Modern parenting would suggest giving him some porn and letting him run free. Those of us here know the dangers of porn, and would say this is enabling addiction formation.

Old-school parenting would prohibit porn use, which would make porn even more appealing to the teenage brain.

There has to be a happy medium. I'm thinking there should be a way to do this "good cop bad cop" style with the mother, so if I had a son, I would have her catch him and reprimand him like the 1940's.. "oh my gosh you're gonna go fur on your hands! That is the work of the devil!!" After that I'd have a one on one talk with him and explain him some about sexuality, how it should be channeled, and how addictions (in general, not just porn) are extremely damaging to the mind.

I ask because I've got a little cousin who is 13, his mom just caught him and his friends watching Nikki Minaj's Anaconda video and she was wondering if this is gateway to porn use, what we could do, etc. I first of all applauded and said "thank god he'll become an ass man" then went on to explain how porn addiction is real and it could damage him. At his age, you can't really say "NO PORN OR ELSE!" but you should be able to monitor his behavior for signs of addiction. Is he acting strange at certain times of the day, hiding out in his room, acting antsy, being covert or short with answers.

Might be a potential thread topic, but I'm interested to hear what this group has to say.

Realistically the kid is probably already watching porn. I know I was at that age...and I didn't even have access to high speed internet on a plethora of devices.

I think some version of your approach is probably the best way to handle it, or at least that's how I'd do it. I probably wouldn't hit him with any of the old wives tales, seeing as how a 15 second web search would tell him otherwise. That would only bring my or my wife's credibility on the matter into question. However, I agree that making porn a "forbidden fruit" by installing porn blockers and all that will only make him want to view it more, and he'll find a way to do so.

Basically I would do everything in my power to impress upon my son that there are certain addictive behaviors that make men weak and lower their quality of life, porn being chief among them. I wouldn't even hesitate to lump it in with other addictive behaviors like doing drugs, smoking, etc. I'd acknowledge the fact that most of his friends are probably into it, but that's because they don't know any better and they will ultimately suffer because of it. One of the most important lessons I would want to impart on my son in general is the necessity to do the right thing even when others around him won't. This is one of those times, and it will only make him a stronger man in the end.

I also think that it would be good to educate him on the topic of healthy sexuality, like you said, because I wouldn't want him to grow up with a bunch of weird hangups about normal sex or even masturbation. Might be a good time to show him some of the stuff from YBOP so that he'll know that there is real science behind all of this, and I'm not just pulling it out of my ass. Even though some of the dopamine/neurotransmitter stuff might be a little over his head, if he's reasonably intelligent he'll understand the gist of it.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - papaiela - 05-08-2016 12:07 PM

Dia 2 again I need to stop this addiction.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Vinny - 05-09-2016 02:17 AM

3 months of NoPorn today. Going strong. Feeling great.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Guriko - 05-09-2016 02:50 AM

After 19 days I've masturbated. Though without the help of porn on a computer, but to pictures of my girlfriend in my head, this still means back to day 1. The spikes of horniness are the hardest part. I will make it to the end. Sure I'll stumble, but I will persevere. It's hard, but also fun.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - pitt - 05-09-2016 03:00 AM

I did 28 days without porn or fapping (I was having sex during that period), relapsed today, I am so mad, I thought I was already over this.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Andre - 05-09-2016 04:26 AM

(05-09-2016 02:50 AM)Guriko Wrote:  After 19 days I've masturbated. Though without the help of porn on a computer, but to pictures of my girlfriend in my head, this still means back to day 1. The spikes of horniness are the hardest part. I will make it to the end. Sure I'll stumble, but I will persevere. It's hard, but also fun.

Two things.

1. Good news, that doesn't count.
2. Who masturbates to pictures of their girlfriend? That is like eating takeaway McDonalds at an actual good restaurant.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - pitt - 05-09-2016 04:32 AM

(05-09-2016 04:26 AM)Andre Wrote:  
(05-09-2016 02:50 AM)Guriko Wrote:  After 19 days I've masturbated. Though without the help of porn on a computer, but to pictures of my girlfriend in my head, this still means back to day 1. The spikes of horniness are the hardest part. I will make it to the end. Sure I'll stumble, but I will persevere. It's hard, but also fun.

Two things.

1. Good news, that doesn't count.
2. Who masturbates to pictures of their girlfriend? That is like eating takeaway McDonalds at an actual good restaurant.

I do that all the time. The girls I fuck with are some of my favourite pornstars.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - AlphaPrimate22 - 05-09-2016 08:11 AM

I tried doing NoFap but mostly all I could think about was sex and fucking. I've changed my views on NoFap. Instead of not masturbating or watching porn, I now do it once a week on a Sunday. This helps me regulate my sexual pent up energy in case I'm on a dry spell.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Guriko - 05-09-2016 10:25 AM

(05-09-2016 04:26 AM)Andre Wrote:  
(05-09-2016 02:50 AM)Guriko Wrote:  After 19 days I've masturbated. Though without the help of porn on a computer, but to pictures of my girlfriend in my head, this still means back to day 1. The spikes of horniness are the hardest part. I will make it to the end. Sure I'll stumble, but I will persevere. It's hard, but also fun.

Two things.

1. Good news, that doesn't count.
2. Who masturbates to pictures of their girlfriend? That is like eating takeaway McDonalds at an actual good restaurant.

1. Hooray! Banana
2. I do. Blush


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - weambulance - 05-09-2016 01:25 PM

Day 6, seems alright so far. Easier than in the past.

I had a sexual dream last night though, about two girls I was banging way back at the end of high school. I very rarely have sexual dreams that I can remember.

I'm also recently on keto, which tends to suppress my libido for the first couple weeks, and I haven't been lifting much--just kettlebell HIIT stuff--in the last bit because I've been very busy with endless family crap. So, I suspect it's going to get a lot harder once my body adjusts and I start lifting heavy again.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - TrifeLife - 05-10-2016 05:32 PM

2 months no porn. Feeling good, longest I've gone without caving. One to month 3


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - xmlenigma - 05-14-2016 06:59 AM

(04-29-2016 08:09 PM)Vinny Wrote:  
(04-29-2016 04:36 PM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  So I havent' fapped in months, I can't remember the last time. I still get frequent pussy every day or 2 at least, and I've been in steady rotation of relationships for a few years. But I still like to watch porn sometimes maybe for just a few minutes, or look at images here and there. I try and use it as motivation to go out and approach, or before I know I'm going to see a chick to kind of wind me up I guess. Has anyone else tried that, or what do you think of watching and using porn as motivation but with no fapping?

I don't know how it works, but I have something similar.

Once in Thailand I had sex with 3 girls in one day. (not boasting) 2 were regulars and one new. Woke up with one girl, banged another one during the day, 3rd one booty called me, I thought why not and went to her place. Just for the sakes of having 3 one day. Only had enough charge for the first 2. Sex was still good with a 3rd one but had nothing left in me.
So after nearly full day of sex, with only short breaks on transportation, I still noticed myself clicking on pics of ass on my timeline just to check them out. Why? Even if this ass would walk in right then I would not fuck her!

I think it has to do with porn induced addiction to novelty, and small dopamine spikes, that seeing a new peace of ass provides.

I have not tried to use pics as motivation though. Most of the time it just sets your standard too high anyway, with all unrealistic photoshopped girls.

It also may-be that even real sex does not provide so much visual stimulation as watching porn, and yet that is what we all are used to.
I am wondering if maybe looking at the girl and playing with her ass and tits much longer, or making her dance for you will satisfy this need for visual stimulation?

From the Spiritual/ Meditation/ Energy / Buddhism circles this is what I've learnt;

Our bodies capacity (limited) to enjoy a sense pleasure v/s The minds endless craving for it (unlimited)

Eyes - See - Sights/ Views/ Nature - Past a point you just want close ur eyes
Ears - Listen - Music - listen for a few hours and then you just want quiet
Nose - Smell - Perfumes - Working in a Perfume factory or Pastry shop and your appeal for it..
Tongue - Taste - Eat your fav Entree / Dessert/ Chocolate.. keep eating.. numb.. saturated
Touch - The example you gave above.. capacity gets saturated?

Thoughts guys?


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - goonies - 05-14-2016 10:48 AM

Do you reset if you edge? Thats my biggest obstacle.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Killer Joe - 05-16-2016 06:19 PM

Starting Day 1.

This vice is killing my inner game. Better to cut it out.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Kid Twist - 05-18-2016 09:59 AM

xm is on it, good explanation dude

damien is just describing the coolidge effect

A lot has to do with mood and neurotransmitters for each few month cycle we're on ... how good we're feeling, probably what we are eating, etc.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - ksbms - 05-20-2016 10:39 AM

I'm afraid that the news I want to share with you today will cause a bit of a stir. Let me share a link with you, though if you use Google Scholar, you'll get study data a plenty.

What seems to be the case is the fact that ejaculating frequently is good for you. Let me quote from this year's European Urology journal:

"As a result, as the authors’ note, frequent ejaculation may hinder the carcinogenic switch from citrate secretion to citrate oxidation. [...] Thus, frequent ejaculation may maintain normal prostatic zinc metabolism, affecting citrate secretion and influencing the prostate microbiome, all of which are thought to contribute to prostate carcinogenesis."

And, as the authors conclude at the end of the article "Frequent ejaculation may decrease a man's risk of developing low-risk PCa (Prostatic Cancer)."


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Isaac Jordan - 05-20-2016 04:20 PM

(05-20-2016 10:39 AM)ksbms Wrote:  And, as the authors conclude at the end of the article "Frequent ejaculation may decrease a man's risk of developing low-risk PCa (Prostatic Cancer)."

As someone who's been NoFapping since 2013, I can assure you that the sweet spot is one jerkoff session per week (unless you're getting laid, of course, in which case go to town).

Sunday night, right before bed, no porn, no pictures, just good 'ol mental masturbation. It'll keep the blue balls at bay and prevent you from caving in to porn or fat/ugly chicks.

As has been mentioned numerous times previously, there's nothing inherently wrong with jerking it...porn is the real enemy here.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - xmlenigma - 05-21-2016 01:31 AM

(05-20-2016 04:20 PM)Isaac Jordan Wrote:  
(05-20-2016 10:39 AM)ksbms Wrote:  And, as the authors conclude at the end of the article "Frequent ejaculation may decrease a man's risk of developing low-risk PCa (Prostatic Cancer)."

As someone who's been NoFapping since 2013, I can assure you that the sweet spot is one jerkoff session per week (unless you're getting laid, of course, in which case go to town).

Sunday night, right before bed, no porn, no pictures, just good 'ol mental masturbation. It'll keep the blue balls at bay and prevent you from caving in to porn or fat/ugly chicks.

As has been mentioned numerous times previously, there's nothing inherently wrong with jerking it...porn is the real enemy here.

With (greasy) or without (dry) lube/ something similar? I feel that dry v/s wet makes you sensitive to one or the other..? ? Thoughts


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Isaac Jordan - 05-21-2016 10:11 AM

(05-21-2016 01:31 AM)xmlenigma Wrote:  
(05-20-2016 04:20 PM)Isaac Jordan Wrote:  
(05-20-2016 10:39 AM)ksbms Wrote:  And, as the authors conclude at the end of the article "Frequent ejaculation may decrease a man's risk of developing low-risk PCa (Prostatic Cancer)."

As someone who's been NoFapping since 2013, I can assure you that the sweet spot is one jerkoff session per week (unless you're getting laid, of course, in which case go to town).

Sunday night, right before bed, no porn, no pictures, just good 'ol mental masturbation. It'll keep the blue balls at bay and prevent you from caving in to porn or fat/ugly chicks.
As has been mentioned numerous times previously, there's nothing inherently wrong with jerking it...porn is the real enemy here.

With (greasy) or without (dry) lube/ something similar? I feel that dry v/s wet makes you sensitive to one or the other..? ? Thoughts

Haha such a great question.

I have a jar of coconut oil sitting in my nightstand next to my bed ready for whenever I've got a naked girl in it. I'll use a small amount of that to prevent chafing, and also because it does feel good and moisturizes my little guy to perfection.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - Comte De St. Germain - 05-21-2016 11:14 AM

Day 1 again. Having a shitty day is the number one way to relapse.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - YoungArt - 05-22-2016 12:13 PM

Back at 0 DAMMIT! I really need to get better at this. Can't make it past a week. Porn is killing my drive to go out and game, it is really that bad.

Interesting video on porn:





RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - yeppels - 05-23-2016 01:36 PM

Day 26 for me. I've made porn so disgusting to myself and the option of relapsing a failure that I will not allow that overcoming urges is getting much easier. Still have thoughts of "wouldn't it be nice to just open up that browser and reach for my dick?" Answer is a resounding "nah".

I've gone on a few dates and notice my dick stirring when in close proximity to the girl I'm with. That's something I don't remember happening before.

I've read a lot of guys flatline for several weeks to several months after quitting porn and pretty much have no sexual drive. This happened to me the first 2 weeks or so, had some half hearted sex where I could at most get half a boner up. But saw her again a week later and had no troubles. I think exercising 5 days a week + meditation + a burning desire to quit this addiction and fuck women helped.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - DamienCasanova - 05-23-2016 02:36 PM

(05-18-2016 09:59 AM)Kid Twist Wrote:  xm is on it, good explanation dude

damien is just describing the coolidge effect

A lot has to do with mood and neurotransmitters for each few month cycle we're on ... how good we're feeling, probably what we are eating, etc.
"In biology and psychology, the Coolidge effect is a phenomenon seen in mammalian species whereby males (and to a lesser extent females) exhibit renewed sexual interest if introduced to new receptive sexual partners,[1][2][3][4] even after cessation of sex with prior but still available sexual partners. The evolutionary benefit to this phenomenon is that a male can fertilize multiple females. The male may be reinvigorated repeatedly for successful insemination of multiple females"

… an old joke about Calvin Coolidge when he was President … The President and Mrs. Coolidge were being shown [separately] around an experimental government farm. When [Mrs. Coolidge] came to the chicken yard she noticed that a rooster was mating very frequently. She asked the attendant how often that happened and was told, "Dozens of times each day." Mrs. Coolidge said, "Tell that to the President when he comes by." Upon being told, the President asked, "Same hen every time?" The reply was, "Oh, no, Mr. President, a different hen every time." President: "Tell that to Mrs. Coolidge."

The original experiments with rats applied the following protocol:[8] A male rat was placed into an enclosed large box with four or five female rats in heat. He immediately began to mate with all the female rats again and again until he eventually became exhausted. The females continued nudging and licking him, yet he did not respond. When a novel female was introduced into the box, he became alert and began to mate once again with the new female. This phenomenon is not limited to common rats.[9] The Coolidge effect is attributed to an increase in dopamine levels and the subsequent effect upon an animal's limbic system.[10]

While the Coolidge effect is usually seen demonstrated by males—that is, males displaying renewed excitement with a novel female—Lester and Gorzalka developed a model to determine whether or not the Coolidge effect also occurs in females. Their experiment, which used hamsters instead of rats, found that it does occur to a lesser degree in females, where the evolutionary advantage of mating with multiple partners is less straightforward

BananaBananaBananaBanana

Interesting stuff, thanks for putting a name to it for me Twist.


RE: NoPorn / NoFap Google Group - For Those Who're Serious - DrCotard - 05-24-2016 10:30 AM

Time has gone fast. Today I’m on my 120th day overcoming porn addiction, 16 days porn free and 5 days MO free.

Regarding nofap, here are my thoughts:

I started this challenge on 26/01/2016 because my orgasms were/are somewhat meh and my motivation to game girls was/is almost nonexistent. At first it was very difficult but I achieved 1 Month PMO free. On 30th day I had sex with 2 girls and the orgasms were intense. Days later I relapsed hard and binge watched a lot of porn. After this first streak I was only having 1 week and 15 days streaks without PMO. Some people who read this, will consider it a failure but in my case I consider the many relapses I had like an opportunity to learn about myself.

In these 120 days I’m slowly noticing the following changes:

- My sexual preferences are slowly changing (from professional produced porn with actresses in the 8 to 9 range to a more vanilla sexual preferences with cute girls in the 6 to 7.5 range)
- Girls who I didn’t consider fucking are registering in my radar (I’m finding myself checking out girls with petite bodies)
- My desire to flirt frequently with girls are slowly beginning to replace my need to watch porn
- When I don’t do MO, I wake up earlier in the morning with ease
- My brain fog has greatly diminished (There are some fogginess, but not like used to be)
- My drive to do things is improving
- My brain usually is finding efficient ways to harness my own sexual energy (I’m still working on this aspect)
- I’m rediscovering the pleasure of doing simple things as kissing a girl, eating a nice meal, spending quality time with my family and some girls, petting domestic birds, etc.
- And finally, the porn's grip is slowly losing control over my mind. (The risk is latent but I'm working on that)

Disadvantages of being on nofap:

• My girl’s standards lowers notoriously
• I risk going for the low hanging fruit (chubby girls, girls with faces in the 4.5 range, and women in the 30-40 yo range).
• My caveman side sometimes overrides my Brainiac side
• I feel a huge hunger for pussy and 69
• Blue balls

When I relapse it’s very hard to get back on the way, because I binge PMO like a drug addict.
My biggest trigger is my own laptop, but due to job issues I must use it because I need to log in on a corporate intranet which isn’t compatible on mobile devices. When I use my smartphone the relapse probabilities are very low.

I agree that relapsing is a pain in the ass, but in my case I see a relapse as an opportunity to learn from my mistakes.

Like another nofap sites have said in many times, replacing porn with another activities or productive hobbies is a must. I’m using my free time to learn Portuguese and it has been very beneficial for me. Reading specialized nofap sites and viewing Youtube videos of guys in the same challenge as us have helped me a lot.

In this moment I don’t consider myself fully healed from this addiction, but I do feel a burning desire to reset my brain to its masculine factory settings.