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The old school MTV show "Daria" - ghostdog - 06-24-2013 01:25 AM

Do you guys remember the show?





I used to watch it all the time. It was the show for outcasts at the time. Thinking back now, it was too feminist. All about a girl who feels smarter than her cartoonishly dumb peers, especially a big titted blond cheerleader.
No girls as sharp as the main character exist in real life. Look through POF or Facebook though and you get lots of brunette girls with bangs and pouty lips trying to come off as intelligent, quoting philosophers in reference to themselves. Any girl who lists "sarcasm" as a language she is fluent in.
Re-watching this now made me realize that there is nothing worse than a girl who is convinced of her intelligence. There are legitimately smart women, but they're overshadowed by the breed that tries to work on having the aura of intelligence to appear "different"


RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - germanico - 06-24-2013 01:33 AM

I always tought that the character was a parody of "intelligent & smart" girls who in actuality are as empty and vain as the rest of them.


RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - germanico - 06-24-2013 01:34 AM

And I liked the character better when she appeared in Beavis and Butthead than when it got its own show. In Beavis and Butthead she was actually funny.


RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - Exactaking - 06-24-2013 11:52 AM

I thought the show was dead on with the careerist mother. Making fun of how she valued her life by working 12 hour days and having "quality time" with her kids rather than the biological imperative. It reminds me of my aunt, who's real careerist, and made no time for her daughters, who either got useless degrees or didn't attend college at all, and are barely scraping by. Hanna Rosin may say its the end of men, but I've noticed a real generation gap among women I like to call the "Daria" gap: Baby boomer women believed that careers would validate them, so they spend their lives rationalizing what is obvious to most men a meaningless existance of corporate servitude. Their daughters pick up on this, become cynical, so they don't become careerists. The daughters are still infected with the AIDS that is 21st century western society, but they sure as hell ain't gonna make partner. They do what we know they do; get bullshit degrees. I think the level of law and accounting majors among women has declined in the past ten years http://insidethelawschoolscam.blogspot.com/2013/01/what-about-women.html

Says women in law school went from 49% in 2001 to 46%

http://www.catalyst.org/knowledge/women-accounting

If TL;DR, Daria effect=Mom brazen careerist, Daughter art major/barista.


RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - Architekt - 06-24-2013 11:59 AM

Some chick put this show on after we fucked. I think I passed out around about that time, but I remember not finding it very good at all


RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - ghostdog - 06-24-2013 12:22 PM

(06-24-2013 11:52 AM)Exactaking Wrote:  I thought the show was dead on with the careerist mother. Making fun of how she valued her life by working 12 hour days and having "quality time" with her kids rather than the biological imperative. It reminds me of my aunt, who's real careerist, and made no time for her daughters, who either got useless degrees or didn't attend college at all, and are barely scraping by. Hanna Rosin may say its the end of men, but I've noticed a real generation gap among women I like to call the "Daria" gap: Baby boomer women believed that careers would validate them, so they spend their lives rationalizing what is obvious to most men a meaningless existance of corporate servitude. Their daughters pick up on this, become cynical, so they don't become careerists. The daughters are still infected with the AIDS that is 21st century western society, but they sure as hell ain't gonna make partner. They do what we know they do; get bullshit degrees. I think the level of law and accounting majors among women has declined in the past ten years http://insidethelawschoolscam.blogspot.com/2013/01/what-about-women.html

Says women in law school went from 49% in 2001 to 46%

http://www.catalyst.org/knowledge/women-accounting

If TL;DR, Daria effect=Mom brazen careerist, Daughter art major/barista.
Good point about the careerist mom. She is a neurotic character and sets a bad example but her smart perceptive daughter doesn't accept femininity as a result.
There are tons of episodes where she flips out about not being young anymore.

The show depicts a lot of paradigm shifts at the end of the 90's. I liked how skeptical it was about college.


RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - kosko - 06-24-2013 01:30 PM

All the weird chics back in the day loved this show. It's no surprise it's made a comeback as more women are well... Fuking weird nowadays.


RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - Tuthmosis - 06-24-2013 01:34 PM

Daria is the precursor to the 2010s snarky, unfeminine, cat-loving, "sarcastic," tattoo-having, pierced-up, frumpy American bitches we complain about.

Is it any coincidence that Janeane Garofalo voiced the character?


RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - Therapsid - 06-24-2013 01:52 PM

(06-24-2013 01:34 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  Daria is the precursor to the 2010s snarky, unfeminine, cat-loving, "sarcastic," tattoo-having, pierced-up, frumpy American bitches we complain about.

Is it any coincidence that Janeane Garofalo voiced the character?

Yeah. I remember seeing the show when it originally aired and being taken aback by how relentlessly cynical it was. It definitely signaled a shift in the zeitgeist. Suddenly it was now cool to always be sarcastic, to not trust other people, and to be sullen joykill.

For example, notice the scene in the video of Daria being hugged by her teacher. She calls out lawsuit! And the teacher shamefacedly pulls back. Haha funny but that kind of joke would not have been made even a few years earlier.


RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - Gator_McKlusky - 06-24-2013 02:50 PM

(06-24-2013 01:34 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  Daria is the precursor to the 2010s snarky, unfeminine, cat-loving, "sarcastic," tattoo-having, pierced-up, frumpy American bitches we complain about.

Is it any coincidence that Janeane Garofalo voiced the character?

Tracy Grandstaff voiced Daria.


RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - Aliblahba - 06-24-2013 04:18 PM

The one scene from Beavis and Butthead I'll never forget:








RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - Kingsley Davis - 06-24-2013 05:24 PM

The show had its moments, especially when Trent was involved to see hypergamy on display as she gets moist for his wannabee rockstar antics.

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RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - Screwston - 06-24-2013 07:31 PM

Funny how girls stood out who acted like this back in the day. Now, it's extremely common.


RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - Gunner - 06-24-2013 08:24 PM

I enjoyed the show, feminist or not.


RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - TheCaptainPower - 06-24-2013 08:26 PM

Anyone remember "singled out" with Jenny McCarthy? I used to watch that every night in High School...


RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - Matt3B - 06-24-2013 09:00 PM

I remember it was on when I was in high school but I never watched it because it looked boring and was about an ugly girl, and I was too busy getting puberty induced chubbies over Sabrina the Teenage Witch.


RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - lurker - 06-24-2013 09:18 PM

(06-24-2013 01:52 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  
(06-24-2013 01:34 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  Daria is the precursor to the 2010s snarky, unfeminine, cat-loving, "sarcastic," tattoo-having, pierced-up, frumpy American bitches we complain about.

Is it any coincidence that Janeane Garofalo voiced the character?

Yeah. I remember seeing the show when it originally aired and being taken aback by how relentlessly cynical it was. It definitely signaled a shift in the zeitgeist. Suddenly it was now cool to always be sarcastic, to not trust other people, and to be sullen joykill.

For example, notice the scene in the video of Daria being hugged by her teacher. She calls out lawsuit! And the teacher shamefacedly pulls back. Haha funny but that kind of joke would not have been made even a few years earlier.

No way. The show lagged the zeitgeist of cynicism by a couple years. The sarcastic/untrusting/sullen aspect of teen culture peaked in the grunge/alternative era around Cobain's death and the rise of Billy Corgan. Daria was on from 1997-2002, when Limp Bizkit-style rap-rock reigned and teen raunch was the new normal. See, e.g., Can't Hardly Wait; American Pie, etc.


RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - Therapsid - 06-24-2013 09:27 PM

(06-24-2013 09:18 PM)lurker Wrote:  
(06-24-2013 01:52 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  
(06-24-2013 01:34 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  Daria is the precursor to the 2010s snarky, unfeminine, cat-loving, "sarcastic," tattoo-having, pierced-up, frumpy American bitches we complain about.

Is it any coincidence that Janeane Garofalo voiced the character?

Yeah. I remember seeing the show when it originally aired and being taken aback by how relentlessly cynical it was. It definitely signaled a shift in the zeitgeist. Suddenly it was now cool to always be sarcastic, to not trust other people, and to be sullen joykill.

For example, notice the scene in the video of Daria being hugged by her teacher. She calls out lawsuit! And the teacher shamefacedly pulls back. Haha funny but that kind of joke would not have been made even a few years earlier.

No way. The show lagged the zeitgeist of cynicism by a couple years. The sarcastic/untrusting/sullen aspect of teen culture peaked in the grunge/alternative era around Cobain's death and the rise of Billy Corgan. Daria was on from 1997-2002, when Limp Bizkit-style rap-rock reigned and teen raunch was the new normal. See, e.g., Can't Hardly Wait; American Pie, etc.

I'd argue that recent or contemporary hipster culture has a similar sullen affect as 90's alternative culture. Look past the difference in clothing style and music. If anything grunge fans were less anti-social.


RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - lurker - 06-25-2013 12:30 AM

(06-24-2013 09:27 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  
(06-24-2013 09:18 PM)lurker Wrote:  
(06-24-2013 01:52 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  
(06-24-2013 01:34 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  Daria is the precursor to the 2010s snarky, unfeminine, cat-loving, "sarcastic," tattoo-having, pierced-up, frumpy American bitches we complain about.

Is it any coincidence that Janeane Garofalo voiced the character?

Yeah. I remember seeing the show when it originally aired and being taken aback by how relentlessly cynical it was. It definitely signaled a shift in the zeitgeist. Suddenly it was now cool to always be sarcastic, to not trust other people, and to be sullen joykill.

For example, notice the scene in the video of Daria being hugged by her teacher. She calls out lawsuit! And the teacher shamefacedly pulls back. Haha funny but that kind of joke would not have been made even a few years earlier.

No way. The show lagged the zeitgeist of cynicism by a couple years. The sarcastic/untrusting/sullen aspect of teen culture peaked in the grunge/alternative era around Cobain's death and the rise of Billy Corgan. Daria was on from 1997-2002, when Limp Bizkit-style rap-rock reigned and teen raunch was the new normal. See, e.g., Can't Hardly Wait; American Pie, etc.

I'd argue that recent or contemporary hipster culture has a similar sullen affect as 90's alternative culture. Look past the difference in clothing style and music. If anything grunge fans were less anti-social.

Sure. But that hipster culture came close to a decade after the show. I just don't see them lining up like you claim. Daria to me felt - probably because of its Beavis and Butt-Head roots - like a parody of the 90s slacker world.


RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - Art Pimp - 06-25-2013 12:44 AM

Great show. I knew some attractive girls who were a lot like Daria. Give me boners to this day.


RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - germanico - 06-25-2013 10:20 AM

(06-25-2013 12:44 AM)Art Pimp Wrote:  Great show. I knew some attractive girls who were a lot like Daria. Give me boners to this day.

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RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - Deluge - 06-25-2013 11:40 AM

Daria hasn't been on TV in ages but in the age of torrents it's managed to remain really popular among young people. Just a couple weeks ago I even approached a girl on campus complimenting her Sick Sad World t-shirt.


RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - Screwston - 06-25-2013 06:23 PM

(06-25-2013 11:40 AM)P Dog Wrote:  Daria hasn't been on TV in ages but in the age of torrents it's managed to remain really popular among young people. Just a couple weeks ago I even approached a girl on campus complimenting her Sick Sad World t-shirt.
Nah, Australia is just late on all our trends bruh Troll


RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - Jeimuzu - 06-25-2013 06:54 PM

Always skipped Daria and went straight for MTV Downtown. Loved that series.


RE: The old school MTV show "Daria" - Screwston - 06-25-2013 07:04 PM

(06-24-2013 08:26 PM)TheCaptainPower Wrote:  Anyone remember "singled out" with Jenny McCarthy? I used to watch that every night in High School...
Yeah and I think Carmen Electra was on there. Weren't there some good animated shows on Mtv that weren't real popular? I remember watching some but I was to young to really pay attention.