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Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - The Beast1 - 08-12-2015 11:26 AM

There's a thread about surviving the first, but I feel this warrants its own post.

After seeing this thread:
and several other suspicious newbie posts it's time someone point this out.

If you've recently joined or joined a long time ago, have very little posts, and zero rep you will not get any love here if you come out guns blazing or in the case of the link above try to "connect" with people. Due to the obvious media attention we're getting the more established members here are rightfully suspicious of new posters.

Here's a word of advice, if you're a new poster tip toe into this "pool" gently. Read posts, understand the tone, and comment. Diving in will land you in the realms of these posters:

Notice the slashes next to their names? The moderation here is excellent and the established folk here have BS detectors that snuff out trolls like it is no business. With that said, I wouldn't be surprised if there are false positives. If you get banned and you meant well, wait another month and tip toe in.

My early posts could be considered ban worthy considering I was going through the red pill "anger" phase. If you're angry, read Heartiste and vent in his comments until this media attention here blows over.

If you're a troll, well...
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RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - Gordax - 08-12-2015 11:30 AM

I feel just a little bit nervous now.

RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - Suits - 08-12-2015 11:53 AM

Co-signed, except if you are banned, you are not permitted to try again with a new user name.

Generally, it pays off to really take your time lurking before posting anything controversial or starting any threads.

For example, in thread that The Beast1 linked to, the OP hadn't even spent enough time browsing the forum to notice that we have a sub-forum dedicated to meetups. No need to post in the Everything Else sub-forum.

We absolutely do value new members, but there are certain spoken and unspoken expectations for members both old and new. Roosh and Tuth have worked hard to provide us with a quality forum. It's our job to contribute in way that shows respect for their commitment.

That being said, there obviously are a lot of new members who have been drawn in by recent events and I for one definitely appreciate your support and look forward to your future contributions. This forum is a great place for men and it's certainly well worth your time to be a respectful, positively contributing member.

RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - KorbenDallas - 08-12-2015 11:55 AM

Why? It's an anonymous forum with no obligations except being a halfway decent human male.

Its cool to meet other members but not required.

So lighten up, just don't post stupid stuff.

RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - Baltimore Bachelor - 08-12-2015 12:09 PM

Will we be able to post comfortably after the last Roosh event is finished?

RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - The Beast1 - 08-12-2015 12:12 PM

(08-12-2015 12:09 PM)Baltimore Bachelor Wrote:  Will we be able to post comfortably after the last Roosh event is finished?

Of course! Don't feel un-welcomed, it's an odd time.

RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - Glaucon - 08-12-2015 12:15 PM

(08-12-2015 12:09 PM)Baltimore Bachelor Wrote:  Will we be able to post comfortably after the last Roosh event is finished?

Roosh is currently chased by the whole Canadian media. Just do not give these vermin ammunition against him.

When this world tour is finished we go back normal.

RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - kaotic - 08-12-2015 12:25 PM

If you follow the guidelines and make appropriate posts, you'll be fine.

Just remember NOTICE TO ALL MEMBERS: War time rules in effect

Like beast said - you've dropped into a war zone right now.

So just take extra caution.

RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - lskdfjldsf - 08-12-2015 12:30 PM

Welcome new guys. Please remember to format your posts, resize images, use the search feature, and keep a cool head.
It can be strange here at first, so just watch and learn (except from my political posts) until it's familiar turf.

Well worth the patience.

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RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - DannyAlberta - 08-12-2015 12:37 PM

Don't be afraid to lurk for awhile (or if you are already registered, read more than you post). That did a major service for me in acclimatizing to this place.

RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - Saweeep - 08-12-2015 12:43 PM

I spent weeks reading this forum before I started posting.

I suggest all new posters do the same.

Still got a few warnings quite quickly!

RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - Diop - 08-12-2015 12:51 PM

Yeah, I lurked for a long time too before my first post. Still dipping my toe in the water here, my approach has been to only post when I feel it'll add some value to an existing conversation. I don't blame anybody here for being leery of relatively new posters due to recent events, it's understandable and shouldn't be taken personally.

RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - Guitarman - 08-12-2015 12:59 PM

Ahhh, but Little Dark is a legend around these parts. And with his "undoubted" skill at seeing off mobs of white knights could come in handy over the next week in Toronto.

"I shouted to them go home and they all ran away".

RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - vinman - 08-12-2015 01:01 PM


Gone too soon.......

RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - Orichalcum - 08-12-2015 01:07 PM

I figured that I would restrict my posts mostly to the lifestyle section for the time being.

Maybe members with high rep could vet new members over a quick skype videochat. It won't weed out the manginas, but at least it would weed out the neon haired, facial-shrapneled freaks that signed up trying to catfish us. I'm happy to be skype-interviewed as I definitely didn't pick the best weekend to get a lifetime gold membership and start posting.

RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - GregGodard - 08-12-2015 01:22 PM

I've also spent a good time reading the posts on here. I don't agree with everybody's viewpoint, but I do think there are a lot of inspirational men on this site. Even inspired me to get started with my business idea, as I've mainly wasted my 20's being a douchebag wannabe artist who thought he was just going to land on a pot of gold.

I'll be enjoying my time here.

RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - Zona - 08-12-2015 01:50 PM

I can appreciate this post. As a new user I understand that I most certainly fit into that category of guys that the seasoned vets might be slightly leery of, particularly given the timing. Though I've been lurking for over a year, I now realize that I picked probably the worst (or best, depending on your perspective) time to join up and buy gold.

Thus, I'm doing what I would normally do in any group where I'm the new guy (which is really just common sense anyway). I'm listening, or in this case, reading, far more than I reply, and am being careful not to do anything that could make me a liability to Roosh or the group.

RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - Aquiles_Baesta_Parada - 08-12-2015 01:53 PM

(08-12-2015 01:01 PM)vinman Wrote:  LITTLE DARK,

Gone too soon.......

Gone but not forgotten!

RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - Cattle Rustler - 08-12-2015 02:00 PM

Newbies should go on the 100 approach challenge before posting in political or social/Race threads.

Dick is blind and it needs to get wet too.

RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - Bear Hands - 08-12-2015 02:10 PM

Take other challenges too. From my own experience, you do not know a damn thing yet if you came here during your anger phase and you won't properly sort yourself out until you start taking actions. Every time you come here to look at Everything Else, force yourself to spend some time on at least 2 other sub forums. You won't have as much anger when you're making yourself into a better man.

RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - Tuthmosis - 08-12-2015 02:46 PM

Thanks for putting together this little notice. I've been meaning to put out some guidelines, and will write up something more formal soon.

I'd add a few things--which mostly exist in one place or another on the forum--because I think they need to be said often for newbies to find them and process them:

Write Properly
Perhaps nothing correlates more closely with a low-value poster and/or troll than shitty grammar. This includes, but is not limited to, writing in all lower-case letters, not using apostrophes, abusing ellipses, and using textspeak (e.g., LMAO, FWIW). Even using carriage returns between every single sentence can be obnoxious to your reader. You don't need to be Shakespeare in your writing, just a considerate writer who respects that this is an intellectual community that places communication as paramount--verbal, written, and non-written. If English isn't your first language, that's fine; your prose doesn't have to be perfect. That's not expected of anyone. But if you claim to be a foreigner, but then are familiar with LMAO and lol!, which are English textspeak abbreviations, you should be familiar with the most basic of English grammar rules (e.g., capitalization).

Don't Start (Excessive) Personal or Weird Threads Early On
Another mistake newbies make are to come in and have 6 of their first 11 posts be new threads about their desperate personal problems, their "views" on pedestrian matters, or their convoluted mental-masturbatory theories. Don't use the forum as your personal journal or blog. Don't start entire threads to ask simple factual information you could find with a tiny bit of effort, or to tell us about a "great game book" you discovered that's a decade old. Look around (use the search feature). Chances are your topic has been covered ad naseum. If you have a question about a particular girl, start a thread in the newbie forum. In fact, any basic question should go there.

Read the Basic Rules
These are the forum's commandments. Read them twice.

Follow Forum Practice in Sharing Stories and Links
This is a community that looks upon self-promotion with suspicion, and with good reason. If you have a product or service to sell, be sure to establish yourself as a contributing member before starting to tell us all about it. Read the rules on self promotion. Also, if you share news stories, make sure that it's thread-worthy, isn't a dupe (use the search feature), and that you've tell us a little bit about what it's about. Don't just paste a link into a blank thread.

Take Warnings Like a Man
Think of the moderation team like referees in an NBA basketball game. If someone takes four steps without dribbling the ball, we have to blow the whistle. This isn't a personal matter. While senior members get a more benefit of the doubt and leeway (just like Lebron James gets away with walking in the paint sometimes), no one is above the laws. If you get a warning, don't start whining about it. If you have 10 posts to your name and then complain, your stay on the forum is likely to be short. If you have a genuine explanation, or we really missed something, feel free to point it out. Our mailboxes are open, but not for pissing and moaning--especially on small warnings.

Don't Be a Pussy in General
This is a community for masculine men. That doesn't mean you have to come in and try to out-"alpha" everyone--in fact, don't do that. But it does mean we have a low tolerance for feminist apologists, exotic views on gender, and general cowardliness. If you come in with a snarky, sarcastic tone or insulting some of the fundamental principles behind a manly lifestyle, you probably don't belong here.

Learn the Forum Culture
You could never write down every single "rule" and guideline to thriving in any community. There's no law that says you can't go around New York all day screaming at people you make more money than them. But if you were to do that in real life, you're sooner or later gonna get punched in the face. Spend time reading threads and seeing how guys interact with one another, especially guys who have been here a long time and have earned "rep." Know what's going on in the forum at a given time. This requires a little bit of work on your end. Don't be lazy.

Remember the Signal-to-Noise Ratio
There are members on this forum who have been warned several times in the past, but remain unbanned. Why? Because their contributions far outweigh their detraction. As a newbie, your contribution is nothing (so far). If you then come and start taking away, your signal-to-noise factor is going to plummet fast. This is also true forum-wide. Overall, the forum has to have a positive signal. If too many low-value posters were making shitty threads and posting one-word answers, in 15 different conversations, that would mean we weren't doing our jobs. Use the search feature before starting new threads. Contribute to on-going conversations.

Respect the Forum
At the end of the day, it comes down to one thing: respecting this community. This place--while on its face a humble internet forum--has survived (and indeed improved) through dozens of calamities and attacks because a lot of guys care about it as a place to spend some time reading, laughing, sharing, and learning with and from one another. Most importantly, guys care enough to lend a hand in keeping things tidy. If you come in selfish, big-baller, being a dick, or humble-bragging, you're not respecting the people who made this place what it is. You, as a newbie, are the weakest link in that equation.

Don't Be Afraid to Post
Having said all that, you shouldn't simply avoid posting (which is an instance of #6 above). If you follow these guidelines, not only will you be fine, you'll thrive here. Participate in existing conversations, bring something to the table, and engage others respectfully. Don't post for the sake of posting, and if you have nothing to say, but also don't think guys are auto-banned for the slightest infraction. This community continues to grow precisely because that isn't the case.

These are quick tips that will need to be formalized during calmer times, but an addition to what's already been said above.

RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - iamdegaussed - 08-12-2015 03:23 PM

I learned this last weekend, try to avoid this place when you're drunk or at least try to stick to the drunk thread.

RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - Balam - 08-12-2015 03:33 PM

I read a lot on the forum, tons of invaluable info for me. I can say that I'm checking the forum almost daily, thanks for the heads up.

RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - dustin457 - 08-12-2015 03:39 PM

(08-12-2015 11:53 AM)Suits Wrote:  Co-signed, except if you are banned, you are not permitted to try again with a new user name.

You're not "permitted" by the forum rules but it's still very easy to keep posting. Just make a bunch of sleepers at the beginning of the month and they'll all get approved, eventually the account you're posting on will be caught but it doesn't matter when you have backups.

RE: Low post and zero rep newbies: Read this - TheNookieMonster - 08-12-2015 04:14 PM

Good advice.

I've been mostly a lurker and occasional poster pretty much since this forum opened. I just recently decided to quit the old account and start anew with this one.