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Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - Curunír - 08-31-2018 11:01 AM

I'm surprised there is not a thread on this, at these are important elections for the West.

Because Sweden was the precursor for all the SJW bullshit and now they let in so many people that a large proportion of the country is born outside of Sweden at they have no-go zone.

I have been following the polls for years because the Swedish democrats (right wing nativist party) was on the rise and in first place for a couple of polls in July and early August or neck in neck and now since two weeks it has almost crashed (-6,-7 points) and the Moderate party (center-right) is getting weaker (-5 points) also as the Social democrats in power for most of the last century are back with a good lead in first place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_Swedish_general_election,_2018

I can't find any information as of why the Swedish democrats declined.

This reminds me of Geert Wilders in the Netherlands being first for so many months and also crashing two weeks before the election.

Second place is not good enough to reverse the mass migration going on.

Anybody from Sweden here with more info?


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - hedonist - 08-31-2018 01:34 PM

Definitely keeping my eye on it too.


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - Johnnyvee - 08-31-2018 01:38 PM

(08-31-2018 11:01 AM)Curunír Wrote:  I'm surprised there is not a thread on this, at these are important elections for the West.

Because Sweden was the precursor for all the SJW bullshit and now they let in so many people that a large proportion of the country is born outside of Sweden at they have no-go zone.

I have been following the polls for years because the Swedish democrats (right wing nativist party) was on the rise and in first place for a couple of polls in July and early August or neck in neck and now since two weeks it has almost crashed (-6,-7 points) and the Moderate party (center-right) is getting weaker (-5 points) also as the Social democrats in power for most of the last century are back with a good lead in first place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_Swedish_general_election,_2018

I can't find any information as of why the Swedish democrats declined.

This reminds me of Geert Wilders in the Netherlands being first for so many months and also crashing two weeks before the election.

Second place is not good enough to reverse the mass migration going on.

Anybody from Sweden here with more info?

Could it be another instance of the media/pollsters deliberately not reporting the real numbers? I happened with Trump, and even more so with Brexit. Sounds unlikely in Sweden maybe, but I hope this is the case at least.


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - Curunír - 08-31-2018 02:59 PM

(08-31-2018 01:38 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  
(08-31-2018 11:01 AM)Curunír Wrote:  I'm surprised there is not a thread on this, at these are important elections for the West.

Because Sweden was the precursor for all the SJW bullshit and now they let in so many people that a large proportion of the country is born outside of Sweden at they have no-go zone.

I have been following the polls for years because the Swedish democrats (right wing nativist party) was on the rise and in first place for a couple of polls in July and early August or neck in neck and now since two weeks it has almost crashed (-6,-7 points) and the Moderate party (center-right) is getting weaker (-5 points) also as the Social democrats in power for most of the last century are back with a good lead in first place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_Swedish_general_election,_2018

I can't find any information as of why the Swedish democrats declined.

This reminds me of Geert Wilders in the Netherlands being first for so many months and also crashing two weeks before the election.

Second place is not good enough to reverse the mass migration going on.

Anybody from Sweden here with more info?

Could it be another instance of the media/pollsters deliberately not reporting the real numbers? I happened with Trump, and even more so with Brexit. Sounds unlikely in Sweden maybe, but I hope this is the case at least.

Wilders actually over polled in the Netherlands election.

Maybe the Swedish democrats can do better.

Worst is the polls in the US were not that far off considering they poll the popular vote and Clinton did do almost +3.

The last aggregate of polls was like +4, +5 Clinton.

With that election it's just that people were too blind to give Trump a good shot, but back to Sweden I look forward to knowing the results.


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - Johnnyvee - 08-31-2018 03:05 PM

(08-31-2018 02:59 PM)Curunír Wrote:  
(08-31-2018 01:38 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  
(08-31-2018 11:01 AM)Curunír Wrote:  I'm surprised there is not a thread on this, at these are important elections for the West.

Because Sweden was the precursor for all the SJW bullshit and now they let in so many people that a large proportion of the country is born outside of Sweden at they have no-go zone.

I have been following the polls for years because the Swedish democrats (right wing nativist party) was on the rise and in first place for a couple of polls in July and early August or neck in neck and now since two weeks it has almost crashed (-6,-7 points) and the Moderate party (center-right) is getting weaker (-5 points) also as the Social democrats in power for most of the last century are back with a good lead in first place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_Swedish_general_election,_2018

I can't find any information as of why the Swedish democrats declined.

This reminds me of Geert Wilders in the Netherlands being first for so many months and also crashing two weeks before the election.

Second place is not good enough to reverse the mass migration going on.

Anybody from Sweden here with more info?

Could it be another instance of the media/pollsters deliberately not reporting the real numbers? I happened with Trump, and even more so with Brexit. Sounds unlikely in Sweden maybe, but I hope this is the case at least.

Wilders actually over polled in the Netherlands election.

Maybe the Swedish democrats can do better.

Worst is the polls in the US were not that far off considering they poll the popular vote and Clinton did do almost +3.

The last aggregate of polls was like +4, +5 Clinton.

With that election it's just that people were too blind to give Trump a good shot, but back to Sweden I look forward to knowing the results.

Saw some polls today that indicated a tie basically between the left and right (possible) coalition. The Social "Democrats" where down a few points. I think it`s gonna be very close. The problem is also getting the moderates, if the right parties get a majority, to form a coalition with the Swedish Democrats.


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - nomadbrah - 08-31-2018 03:07 PM

(08-31-2018 11:01 AM)Curunír Wrote:  I have been following the polls for years because the Swedish democrats (right wing nativist party) was on the rise and in first place for a couple of polls in July and early August or neck in neck and now since two weeks it has almost crashed (-6,-7 points)

The Sweden Democrats did a very stupid "dems are the real nazis" video.

A video in which they accused the Social Democrats of their eugenics program in the 30s (true), but which only had the effect of focusing the spotlight on themselves, since they apparently was sort of national-socialist back in the 80s and 90s.

Very, very stupid. In fact, so stupid I bet it's sabotage from within.


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - redpillage - 08-31-2018 03:42 PM

(08-31-2018 03:05 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  Saw some polls today that indicated a tie basically between the left and right (possible) coalition. The Social "Democrats" where down a few points. I think it`s gonna be very close. The problem is also getting the moderates, if the right parties get a majority, to form a coalition with the Swedish Democrats.

LOL You guys are still thinking that SWEDEN, the most cucked nation on planet Earth, is going to elect some nationalistic shitlords? They are way too far gone and it wouldn't make a difference anyway as the demographic cancer is already deeply embedded.

I think it actually serves the remainder of Europe and in particular the U.S. better if Sweden blows up completely and basically turns into one giant Jihadi stronghold. We need a textbook example of what NOT to do, and quite frankly the cucked Swedes have it coming.


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - Laner - 08-31-2018 04:18 PM

(08-31-2018 03:07 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  
(08-31-2018 11:01 AM)Curunír Wrote:  I have been following the polls for years because the Swedish democrats (right wing nativist party) was on the rise and in first place for a couple of polls in July and early August or neck in neck and now since two weeks it has almost crashed (-6,-7 points)

The Sweden Democrats did a very stupid "dems are the real nazis" video.

A video in which they accused the Social Democrats of their eugenics program in the 30s (true), but which only had the effect of focusing the spotlight on themselves, since they apparently was sort of national-socialist back in the 80s and 90s.

Very, very stupid. In fact, so stupid I bet it's sabotage from within.

My home province did this up until the 90's I believe.

People made it out to be grabbing not so smart girls and sterilizing them. In reality, it was mostly about sterilizing women who were on their 9th handicapped kid and couldn't even take care of themselves.

Topic for another day though.

As for Sweden, based on what I see on friends social media, the thought of most city dwellers voting right makes them ill. It hurts their feelings. A vote for the right brings images of starving African babies with flies on their faces. Flashes of Donald Trump taking babies from their crying mothers at the border and laughing as he throws them in cages. A room full of naked and emaciated Jewish women and children, freshly gassed and ready for the lime and the mass grave.

This will be an interesting election for them. Its certainly an election where polls matter less than what Bjorn and Erika will do in the booth when no one is looking down on them and reminding them of their privilege.


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - redpillage - 08-31-2018 04:21 PM





Quote:As Election Looms, Sweden Is Burning Again Tonight

With the highly anticipated Swedish election looming next weekend, and the anti-immigrant Sweden Democrats party having surged in the polls (until the last few days), the timing of tonight's gang riots is only likely to enrage voters even more.

Up to 22 cars were torched or damaged across southern Sweden Friday morning, weeks after dozens of cars were set on fire using molotov cocktails.

Police in the southern city of Trollhättan have opened an investigation into one fire which left up to 10 cars damaged, according to local news outlet Aftonbladet. Authorities were also called to the Kronegården around 3:30 a.m. to put out a "fully-fledged" fire which had fully engulfed three cars before spreading further.

Welcome to Sweden 2018 :-)


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - nomadbrah - 08-31-2018 05:01 PM

(08-31-2018 04:18 PM)Laner Wrote:  
(08-31-2018 03:07 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  
(08-31-2018 11:01 AM)Curunír Wrote:  I have been following the polls for years because the Swedish democrats (right wing nativist party) was on the rise and in first place for a couple of polls in July and early August or neck in neck and now since two weeks it has almost crashed (-6,-7 points)

The Sweden Democrats did a very stupid "dems are the real nazis" video.

A video in which they accused the Social Democrats of their eugenics program in the 30s (true), but which only had the effect of focusing the spotlight on themselves, since they apparently was sort of national-socialist back in the 80s and 90s.

Very, very stupid. In fact, so stupid I bet it's sabotage from within.

My home province did this up until the 90's I believe.

People made it out to be grabbing not so smart girls and sterilizing them. In reality, it was mostly about sterilizing women who were on their 9th handicapped kid and couldn't even take care of themselves.

Topic for another day though.

As for Sweden, based on what I see on friends social media, the thought of most city dwellers voting right makes them ill. It hurts their feelings. A vote for the right brings images of starving African babies with flies on their faces. Flashes of Donald Trump taking babies from their crying mothers at the border and laughing as he throws them in cages. A room full of naked and emaciated Jewish women and children, freshly gassed and ready for the lime and the mass grave.

This will be an interesting election for them. Its certainly an election where polls matter less than what Bjorn and Erika will do in the booth when no one is looking down on them and reminding them of their privilege.

Eugenicism, racism and anti-antisemitism was the norm in Europe, US and the West from Darwin until 1945.

Hitler invented none of it. All of "nazism" is borrowed from Brits and the US and certainly you found these thoughts on both sides of the political spectrum. The only one's who might have been opposed to the idea of eugenics and racial hierarchies were, mainly christian, conservatives.

Everyone else was on board with it. The right from a perspective of esoteric purity (Nietsche, Blavatsky, Von List, Darwin) and the left from the perspective of utilitarian societal planning (need more productive, less burdens, on the welfare states they imagined).

In any case, it was monumentally stupid of the SD to bring this up. You never bring up negative stuff that can be related to yourself like this. Did they learn nothing from Trump or Brexit. Winning, winning, winning. Kick the muslims out. That's all they want to hear. That's it. Now you went and made swedes imagine these emasciated jews (as you point out). Very dumb.

It doesn't really matter if they get 20, 25 or 30%, the system is created, in most of Europe, so that ruling by majority is just about impossible without having one of the traiterous center parties in the mix. Where it has happened, such as in Italy, it seems driven by sheer force of personality (the 5 Stars Movement guy).

Would Trump win if he had to go up against Bernie, Hillary, Cruz, Rubio, Jeb in one go? Maybe, maybe not. There would be cannibalizing. That's the situation in most European parliaments. Remember Hitler never got more than 30+% something votes, which is often forgotten, cause people think he was a dictator always.

Where Europe has a system like the US with two candidates, Marine Le Pen in France got like 35-40% which is seemingly a lot less cucked that claimed and leaves a real chance for non-establishment candidates.

Everywhere else, including Sweden, it is just not possible to really take control by one party.


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - Simeon_Strangelight - 09-06-2018 10:28 AM

They would need 65% to turn things around and there is no chance in hell for that. Sweden is as good as doomed even if their program is actually not bad.


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - redpillage - 09-06-2018 01:16 PM

(09-06-2018 10:28 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  They would need 65% to turn things around and there is no chance in hell for that. Sweden is as good as doomed even if their program is actually not bad.

Yup, the Overton window in Sweden has shifted so far to the left over the past fifty something years that there is zero chance the pendulum can be swung hard enough the other way to foster the type of rapid solutions necessary to salvage whatever is left of that nation. Especially in a multi-party system as is common in Europe.

As much as Europeans always ridicule Americans for basically running a two-party republic, that and the delegate system really saved our asses in 2016. Sweden? Germany? France? Not so lucky and they are already dead, they just don't know it yet.

BTW, this is not defeatism talking here. Simple statistics and a sound understanding of demographic growth curves.


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - Simeon_Strangelight - 09-06-2018 01:26 PM

< Correct - the issue now is only what kind of shitholes will become of the UK, Germanistan, Francistan, Swedistan and Belgistan. The options are either Caliphate, Brazilian dysfunction, far-left Orwellian police state or civil war.

A few countries could save themselves like the ones in EE, maybe the Baltics, the Balkan states, Denmark, Norway, Finland or Portugal. I have little hope for the rest - they are dead men walking and the realities of their demolition will hit them when it is already too late to do anything about it.


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - RexImperator - 09-08-2018 08:35 PM

Very interested to hear the results tomorrow.


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - Simeon_Strangelight - 09-09-2018 02:32 AM

(09-08-2018 08:35 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  Very interested to hear the results tomorrow.





I have the right song and gif for that election.

[Image: h1BE27201]


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - Vienna - 09-09-2018 02:33 AM

I speculate that we are in for a positive surprise tonight. If SD get 30 or more percent (which is absolutely not impossible) we're talking political chaos in Sweden, and it's been a long time since we had true chaos in our politics and country. And that means new opportunities.

SD is the kingmaker. We could be facing a coalition government across the usual lines, but that would not sit well with voters at all. This year's election cycle has been vicious and formed cracks between the two major blocks, and in so doing also contempt in the core voting base on either side. A more American system, if you will.

SD will only support a prime minister that seeks to form a government with much more restrictive immigration policies. The power to come out on the stronger side of a compromise is firmly in the hands of /our guys/.

Lastly, I love to hear how people that have never set their foot in Sweden cry about how all is lost. You have no idea what is said behind closed doors and in confidence here, and like Laner pointed out: when they're by themselves in the voting booth and no one is judging them by the Jante law, Sven and Frida might surprise y'all.


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - Simeon_Strangelight - 09-09-2018 02:45 AM

< Let me tell you a story about Austria. The polls had already 50%+ of the population voting for the full anti-immigration shitlord party. Then the conservatives did a hard right swerve to win the election and attract their voters.

Net Result? Big words, no actions, instead of 100.000 per year, maybe some 40-50.000 non-Euros enter the country now. The country will still become a shithole in the next decades.

The only good thing about Sweden and that may surprise many is that it is still overwhelmingly White despite all this world-class cucking, but the cucking is at such high levels, that I expect the Swedes to see their daughters' heads on pikes and then still not do anything about shit. Sweden will be a prime example for future historians of how to exterminate yourself with feminism and insane egalitarianism equating Finnish "immigrants" to Somalis.


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - Vienna - 09-09-2018 03:13 AM

Well of course that sucks Simeon_Strangelight. I've been largely ignorant of Austrian politics since Kurz got elected, thought he got the borders under lockdown.

But let's see the results of the Swedish elections first, before we get ahead of ourselves.


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - Foolsgo1d - 09-09-2018 05:17 AM

So first they need to get in and then people magically think its going to become better? They're not going to start mass deportations and I doubt significant numbers will be booted out due to human rights interventions and mass protests.

I dont doubt the anger but there is a reason why they say Sweden has gone too far along.


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - Simeon_Strangelight - 09-09-2018 06:31 AM

< Correct - even a shitlord government has to be backed up by their people. The people in Poland may not like the PiS politicians that much, but almost 85% of them agree on the immigration issue - tendency rising.

That is why that party won.

Similar to the Germans or French - look at what is happening there. They slaughter and rape them en masse, drive over Christmas markets and castrate men at rock-concerts. What do they do?

"Love is the answer" concerts and LePen and AFD - two at least potentially real alternatives - barely get traction. I get it that if you have zero options, then it's useless, but if the options are there and you just don't take them, then what?

The UK political system is frankly more option-less than in continental Europe. I would hardly even call UKIP on the level of AFD, the Sweden Democrats or LePen. And due to the election system they don't have a chance - the lukewarm party does not, while the the traitors to the right and traitors to the left reign supreme. Soon it will be Labour ruling for the next decades due to demographics.

Eastern Germany should not have unified - they would be a poorer, but at least real German Germany now - those buggers would have voted for AFD at massive rates.

But indoctrination is what it is. And Sweden is the most indoctrinated of them all even if the actual demographics are not as dire as in other places. Who is going to push them through, the Golden One? When even their Bosnian immigration-criticizing immigrants are essentially all for semi-open borders and "vetted" Muslims. Yeah - that will go well.


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - Foolsgo1d - 09-09-2018 07:39 AM

As far as the UK is concerned you should try reading up the anti-semitism in Labour and people just realising this now as a problem. They have been hard left for a few years now and aided by Momentum they are only getting more hardliners into positions of power.

UKIP will not beat Labour and you can see that by the way people react to Tommy Robinson having membership. People are more upset over that than the rising storm of Labour who have a very real chance at No.10.


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - Teedub - 09-09-2018 07:56 AM

Nah, people are in general more upset over the anti-semitism in Labour thing, it's been front page news for months... Tommy hasn't.


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - TigerMandingo - 09-09-2018 08:19 AM

From what I understand, Corbyn said some pretty benign things about the Israel Palestine conflict and he's being eaten alive by jews now.

Just imagine what they have in store for the real anti semites Laugh


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - Simeon_Strangelight - 09-09-2018 08:52 AM

< The far-left and feminazis were always anti-Israel since they cheer for the supposed underdog 24/7. You can observe it in the same parties in Sweden who are strongly against Israel. The morons cheer even for ISIS against Assad, so what can you expect? Plus - Labour has full Muslim support, so that will fit nicely in their worldview and give them even more votes.

But so far the Jewish lobby has been very effective at eliminating real opposition - worst case Corbyn has a heart-attack and someone more sympathetic takes over. I frankly don't believe it - Corbyn is a pro-politician and likely more bark than bite - he is likely well-vetted anyway and is ass-kissing the right parties from Monday till Sunday.


RE: Swedish election Sept. 9th 2018 - nomadbrah - 09-09-2018 11:39 AM

The real thing holding back populist right wing parties is not the anti-immigration, but their fanatical embrace of Israel.

A lot of left wingers are secretly onboard with anti-muslim measures, but don't want to cuck for Israel.