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Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - Jetset - 09-21-2018 11:43 AM

Today's LOL comes from a lengthy article against social and medical "fat-shaming":

https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/everything-you-know-about-obesity-is-wrong/

...and yet:

Quote:Yes, nearly every population-level study finds that fat people have worse cardiovascular health than thin people. But individuals are not averages: Studies have found that anywhere from one-third to three-quarters of people classified as obese are metabolically healthy. They show no signs of elevated blood pressure, insulin resistance or high cholesterol. Meanwhile, about a quarter of non-overweight people are what epidemiologists call “the lean unhealthy.”

This could just as easily be written to read...

"Studies have found that two-thirds of people classified as obese are metabolically unhealthy, compared to only about a quarter non-overweight people."

If you click through, be prepared for glamour shots of large women.


RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - Belgrano - 09-21-2018 11:50 AM

Quote:Yes, nearly every population-level study finds that fat people have worse cardiovascular health than thin people. But...

Clearly we must raise awareness about cardiovascular inequality and empower horizontally-challenged people to fight thin privilege.


RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - Vladimir Poontang - 09-21-2018 12:00 PM

Even the title's font is fat.


RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - scotian - 09-21-2018 12:08 PM

Fuck fat people, I was never around them growing up and don’t hang out with them now but unfortunately I’m sometimes forced to work with fatties and they disgust me. I’m currently in a work camp where we all eat together in a dining hall and when I look at some fat fuck’s plate and see it full of poutine and pizza then watch him polish off an ice cream, it grosses me out. On top of that they are a pain in the dick hole to work with: unorganized, slow and always avoiding work so they can sit on their fat arses and stuff their fat faces with pudding a cheesies.


RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - Brother Abdul Majeed - 09-21-2018 12:12 PM

(09-21-2018 11:43 AM)Jetset Wrote:  If you click through, be prepared for glamour shots of large women.

No thanks.


RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - Days of Broken Arrows - 09-21-2018 12:24 PM

Several grossly overweight people I went to high school with posted this on Facebook, as if it were some righteous justification for their obesity.

One guy I knew had a heart attack back in March. A girl I knew has had a myriad of health problems I couldn't begin to describe. Both look 10-15 years older than they really are.

When I did a Google search (no quotes) for annual deaths obesity, the number that came up was 374,239 (LINK). When I did a search for annual deaths opioids the number was 42,000.

WITH STATS LIKE THESE, HOW THE EFF IS THERE AN OPIOID EPIDEMIC BUT NOT AN OBESITY EPIDEMIC????????? We don't need less fat shaming. We need more. Lots more.

The HuffPost should be ashamed of itself for running this crap.


RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - Abelard Lindsey - 09-21-2018 12:25 PM

The Huffington Post writers are idiots:

https://www.fightaging.org/archives/2018/06/a-reminder-that-excess-visceral-fat-is-harmful/

https://www.fightaging.org/archives/2016/04/dont-get-fat-dont-stay-fat-visceral-fat-tissue-will-kill-you/

https://www.fightaging.org/archives/2018/08/more-visceral-fat-means-more-cognitive-impairment-in-later-life/

https://www.fightaging.org/archives/2015/04/visceral-fat-correlates-with-brain-tissue-damage/


RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - Brother Abdul Majeed - 09-21-2018 12:50 PM

I bet that if you left a comment "fat people are sexy" on that article, you'd get 20,000 upvotes from fat women.


RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - RVF400 - 09-21-2018 01:10 PM

I skimmed it and read most of the comments at the bottom....utter fucking bullshit. Placing the blame on everyone else other than the fat fucks who will not take responsibility.

These fat fucks need to get on the Snake Diet!!! HA HA Start fasting!!!


RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - RVF400 - 09-21-2018 01:12 PM

HEY FATTY !!!!






RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - Tiger Man - 09-21-2018 01:44 PM

I think stuff like this - aside from just fitting in to the degenerate zeitgeist of our time - is pushed to deflect from the various and obvious negative effects that obesity is having on healthcare systems.

I read a report a few months ago that indicated that the NHS in the UK was spending a majority of its pharma budget on things like diabetes medication.

I was recently in hospital in Canada, and I was amazed at the number of middle age and younger people who were being scheduled for hip and knee replacements. Guess what they all had in common? And I did not experience a single doctor or nurse suggestion a diet or weight loss plan (I shared a room with some of these people). It wasn't even brought up.

Be fat if you want. I honestly don't care. But, I see no reason to offer assistance to those who are intent on killing themselves slowly. You want to have fat pride parades and calendars. Fine. You want me to pay for your Tresiba? Nope. Lose some weight or pay for it yourself. There are people who have juvenile diabetes through no fault of their own. I would rather focus my research and treatment money on them.


RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - TigerMandingo - 09-21-2018 01:51 PM

Fat people just need to one thing: eat less. Skip meals. Forget exercise, which is vastly overrated. Yet doctors don't dare suggest this to fatties.

You have people in EE and SEA with lean bodies who have never seen the inside of a gym.


RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - Jetset - 09-21-2018 02:09 PM

(09-21-2018 12:00 PM)Vladimir Poontang Wrote:  Even the title's font is fat.

The polite term is that the title "has a tremendous presence".

(09-21-2018 01:51 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  Fat people just need to one thing: eat less. Skip meals. Forget exercise, which is vastly overrated. Yet doctors don't dare suggest this to fatties.

You have people in EE and SEA with lean bodies who have never seen the inside of a gym.

According to the article, the laws of thermodynamics do not apply to the obese. If they eat less and move more, their bodies continue to function without actually burning any of their fat reserves for fuel.

It's a true scientific paradox, to be sure.


RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - JohnKreese - 09-21-2018 02:17 PM

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RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - scotian - 09-21-2018 02:17 PM

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RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - hunger - 09-21-2018 02:18 PM

I’m so desensitized to this incredibly degenerate bullshit the media is pushing 24/7 that I can’t even get angry about it anymore. I’ve just started ignoring it all completely as day-to-day chatter in the same vein as when people in the 30s used to write about how Asians are an inferior race. It’s just dumb shit that will get laughed at in 50 years and my energy is much better spent working on my business and dating beautiful women who laugh at this shit too. Among the attractive, successful people that get laid, nothing has changed. The internet and media has just given the fat loser nerd who got beat up in school by people like us a channel to vent their powerlessness.


RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - Gimlet - 09-21-2018 02:19 PM

Looking at the font and layout of the title, someone who works at HuffPo is stealth trolling. Here is what you see when you scroll from the top:


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RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - Johnnyvee - 09-21-2018 02:56 PM

A small subset of people have naturally very good insulin sensitivity. They need hardly any insulin at all in order to store fat in fat cells. They also have a genetic tendency to sprout new adipocytes, when the ones they`re have are stuffed with fat. (via leptin signalling ) So this subset, estimated to be something like 10-15 percent of the global population, will stay relative insulin sensitive, and healthier as a result. But they`re still unhealthy though, only less so than the genetically unfortunate. Also, atherosclerosis for example takes time to develop, so if the data looks at younger people, it`s not come that far yet.

On the current average American diet it`s been estimated that you need something like 30.000 calories a day to get you`re essential nutrients. This in one of the reasons people who eat crappy foods are so hungry also, they are very malnourished in fact, and hence seek out more food. (it`s a proven concept for protein at least, but probably transfers to all essential nutrients) This also has serious health consequences of course.


RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - Sidney Crosby - 09-21-2018 03:02 PM

I read some of it for a laugh, a suggested article on the side said "Together alone, the epidemic of gay loneliness"


RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - Abelard Lindsey - 09-21-2018 03:06 PM

https://www.studyfinds.org/bigger-belly-weaker-memory-cognitive-decline/


RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - exmormon - 09-21-2018 03:14 PM

(09-21-2018 03:02 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  I read some of it for a laugh, a suggested article on the side said "Together alone, the epidemic of gay loneliness"

Did they have an article for fat gay and lonely men? Asking for a friend.


RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - Jetset - 09-21-2018 04:08 PM

(09-21-2018 02:19 PM)Gimlet Wrote:  Looking at the font and layout of the title, someone who works at HuffPo is stealth trolling. Here is what you see when you scroll from the top:

Went ahead and made something out of it:

https://starwarsintrocreator.kassellabs.io/#!/BLMxzUuBjj_EDKtYnfx1

I can't believe how well the timing on the music worked out.


RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - MongolianAbroad - 09-21-2018 05:13 PM

Just get out.

It's over, there's no saving this.

Just get out while you still can if you're fortunate enough to be able to.

That is all.


RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - Johnnyvee - 09-21-2018 06:10 PM

(09-21-2018 05:13 PM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  Just get out.

It's over, there's no saving this.

Just get out while you still can if you're fortunate enough to be able to.

That is all.

This is related to demographics also. According to the CDC;

"Hispanics (47.0%) and non-Hispanic blacks (46.8%) had the highest age-adjusted prevalence of obesity, followed by non-Hispanic whites (37.9%) and non-Hispanic Asians (12.7%)."
https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html

So as the demographics of the US continues to change, the problem should get worse. I guess we will see <50 percent whites and >50 percent obese at one point. I agree, at that point you should probably be somewhere else in the world.


RE: Huffington Post: "Everything You Know About Obesity is Wrong" - John Silva - 09-22-2018 05:37 AM

A doctor told me years ago: "on average a skinny/thin person is always healthier than a fat/obese one"

Of course there might be some cases in which a thin person has worst health indicators than a fat one. If you're skinny alchoolic who injects heroin, it can happen that a fatso lardass might be in better shape.

I've known a guy who was obese all his life. Died at the ripe age of 34 of various complications. What really impressed me was, a few months before he died, he asked me a lift somewhere, not far, you could easly walk, I was a litlle surprised because it was a very short distance, but then I remembered that for him, that small distance was like running a marathon.

What was even more impressive was that we had to climb some stairs to reach the car, an even shorter distance, that me and another friend made in less than a minute. He (fatso) took almost half an hour, with several stops to catch his breath. Me and the other guy were just there stunned at his dificulty. We couldn't help him, he had to climb the stairs on his own. It was a very sad sight and it took him a very long time.

A few months later he died. It was not a sudden death. He had health issues all his life. Tried diets, pills and operations. Been in and out of the hospital several times. In the end he kind of quited. Would indulge as much as he wanted. He was always a glutton.

I kind of understand the need for this 'body positivity' mindset. I've played sports against many fat/obese guys. Some were surprisingly agile, many were coordenated and a few could even run, but it's undeniable they were always disadvantaged.

That's what's pernicious about this kind of message, because being fat, whatever the reason, is indeed dangerous, unhealty and can get you killed.