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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Eusebius - 08-11-2019 02:07 PM

(08-11-2019 01:46 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  
(08-11-2019 12:03 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  
(08-11-2019 10:38 AM)RawGod Wrote:  @Samseau i agree that the real coup was with JFK. I guess it's old news and not sexy to look into that these days. But after that came Vietnam, the Hart-Celler act, removal of the final vestiges of the gold standard, and the Hollyweird/CIA Cultural Revolution. It all happened on Johnson's watch. American democracy died on Nov 23, 1963, and the oligarchs and intelligence agencies took full control.

Are you joking? JFK was a deviant who had multiple affairs with communist spies and even with Nazi spies during WWII. He was probably the most compromised President to ever sit in The White House. Just one of many examples:

https://www.dialoginternational.com/dialog_international/2014/01/john-f-kennedy-and-the-east-german-spy-who-loved-him.html

This stuff began way before JFK -- and it may have greatly expanded because of the threat posed by an extremely compromised President sitting in The White House. The Kennedys were all narcissistic sociopaths. The fact that people in this thread do not know such basic facts demonstrates just how hard it is for the truth to filter down to the herd, who are simply fixated on basic survival and cheap entertainment.

And? You're basically crucifying him for gettin some on the side! Honorable...no... But to question the love he had for the American People is absurd. Is doesn't get bigger than a SITTING US PRESIDENT GETTING WACKED. It's not even a secret that he was desperately trying to put the US back on the Gold Standard. There's a reason why no one as tried since!

Exactly. Debate JFK's flaws all you like, but he was taken out by the deep state and they (basically the intelligence agencies) have run things ever since.

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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Orson - 08-11-2019 02:09 PM

(08-11-2019 12:03 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  
(08-11-2019 10:38 AM)RawGod Wrote:  @Samseau i agree that the real coup was with JFK. I guess it's old news and not sexy to look into that these days. But after that came Vietnam, the Hart-Celler act, removal of the final vestiges of the gold standard, and the Hollyweird/CIA Cultural Revolution. It all happened on Johnson's watch. American democracy died on Nov 23, 1963, and the oligarchs and intelligence agencies took full control.

Are you joking? JFK was a deviant who had multiple affairs with communist spies and even with Nazi spies during WWII. He was probably the most compromised President to ever sit in The White House. Just one of many examples:

https://www.dialoginternational.com/dialog_international/2014/01/john-f-kennedy-and-the-east-german-spy-who-loved-him.html

This stuff began way before JFK -- and it may have greatly expanded because of the threat posed by an extremely compromised President sitting in The White House. The Kennedys were all narcissistic sociopaths. The fact that people in this thread do not know such basic facts demonstrates just how hard it is for the truth to filter down to the herd, who are simply fixated on basic survival and cheap entertainment.


Compared to who? Compared to FDR who had an actual Soviet spy as Vice President,, perhaps? That's a high bar to hurdle.


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Orson - 08-11-2019 02:20 PM

(08-10-2019 07:14 PM)Bazzwaldo Wrote:  This is what Mossad does when an asset becomes a liability, look out Trump

CAN anyone buff the bona fides of the Mossad, in recent years? Long ago - sure. Isn't Putin far better at execting the Sinister Plot?


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - 911 - 08-11-2019 02:40 PM

(08-11-2019 11:25 AM)ed pluribus unum Wrote:  How is it that a guy like Epstein, so close to the depravities and secrets of the globo-elites, didn't have some kind of dead-man's switch evidence-drop to keep him from being suicided? I guess either he figured he was indispensable, or the executor of his safety plan was compromised. Probably the former.

Epstein was first and foremost a good soldier for Israel, as were Robert Maxwell and his daughter Ghislaine, who was his handler and superior, behind the facade of him as a billionaire. This lends some credence to the theory that he might have been substituted, let out to a safe remote sanctuary, and his death faked.

We don't know for sure if he was suicided or extracted. The former is more likely, but as that cartoon implies, you have to be a retard to think he actually committed suicide.

The thing about Epstein is that he lived the perfect life, at least according to the more depraved hedonistic elements on this board, jet-setting between NYC, Paris and his island, hobnobbing with high society/celebrities and screwing literally thousands of beautiful young women, being an important cog in the world's foremost blackmail operation, a pure machievelian world domination power play. He is a total embodiment of the Crowley ethos (incidentally Crowley was also a depraved spy).

He had no family, no meaningful loving relationships, only very business-like trysts with an endless stream of hundreds if not thousands of shiksa sex slaves, and FWB relationships with a harem of former sex slaves that became his employees like his pilot Nadia Marcenko:

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So he's left with no family, no wife, no children or descendants, which is kind of pretty ironic given the narrative floated of him as a Bond-style eugenicist villain who wanted to seed the planet (and which shows how stupid that narrative really is...)

This is kind of important because guys in his situation with actual families would have had a strong incentive to take their secrets with them to the grave, for fear of reprisals to their loved ones. But this also means that he had no real deep friendship or tight kin that would put their lives at risk to protect him by keeping his "life insurance" folder. Had he had a wife and children, they could have come out and torpedoed the suicide narrative. He was an isolated soldier and thus was very easy to dispose of. There is "no executor of his safety plan".


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - 911 - 08-11-2019 02:51 PM

(08-11-2019 06:17 AM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  
(08-10-2019 01:59 PM)Roosh Wrote:  
(08-10-2019 01:51 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Such brazen action means they will start to divert attention soon. It'll have to be serious and take up some serious news cycles.

They need to move on from the "lone wolf" shooter, since it doesn't have as much shock value. I would expect team shootings of 2-3 people that terrorize a city for several hours.

Every mass shooting in America involving more than one shooter since Columbine has been perpetrated by Islamic terrorists. The discriminating factor with multiple shooters is a shared ideology. With Columbine, it was just two pissed off white kids, one of whom eventually shot the other to death before killing himself. Given raw demographics and the continued direction of our foreign policy, it's only a matter of time before a couple of fundamentalist Islamic actors - and not necessarily men - do something again.

When it does happen, it'll be the result of deliberately lax immigration policies or hard core converts cooking up an idea, not because of some secret command put out to random sleeper cells by the oligarchs. Regardless, it'll be another crisis that will not go to waste.

...

El Paso, Vegas, San Bernardino and other recent false flags all had witnesses that indicated that those weren't single shooter/lone gunmen events.


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Tail Gunner - 08-11-2019 03:34 PM

(08-11-2019 01:46 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  And? You're basically crucifying him for gettin some on the side! Honorable...no... But to question the love he had for the American People is absurd. Is doesn't get bigger than a SITTING US PRESIDENT GETTING WACKED. It's not even a secret that he was desperately trying to put the US back on the Gold Standard. There's a reason why no one as tried since!

I just get so absolutely disgusted reading this stuff. People who do not know the most elemental aspects of U.S. history flouting their unbridled ignorance -- and then other members giving them likes for their ignorance.

1) JFK gets assassinated on November 22, 1963.

2) Richard Nixon takes the U.S. off the gold standard on August 15, 1971.

3) Captain Gh: claims that JFK was was "desperately trying to put the US back on the Gold Standard," when the U.S. was not even off the gold standard until eight years after his death.

This lack of knowledge regarding basic American history is absolutely mind blowing. Nor is there any excuse for it. Ever hear of Google?

JFK had no love for his country, at least not any love that exceeded his love for himself. Otherwise, he would not have compromised himself and his country by cavorting with known communist and Nazi spies, opening himself to blackmail and worse. He and his brothers were narcissists and sociopaths who were not fit to hold any elected office, much less the Presidency.

The entire reason that JFK was able to get whacked was because he was a scumbag who hung out with so many other scumbags that there were far too many suspects to ever uncover the truth about his murder.

The problem is that a people without honor -- and without any objective moral standard in their lives -- can no longer tell what honor truly is.


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Roosh - 08-11-2019 06:22 PM

Media is trying to clamp down on people who believe Epstein didn't commit suicide himself:

Quote:Jeffrey Epstein's apparent suicide Saturday morning in a federal jail launched new conspiracy theories online in a saga that has provided fodder for them for years, fueled by Epstein's ties to princes, politicians and other famous and powerful people.

Online theorists Saturday quickly offered unsubstantiated speculation — including some retweeted by President Trump — that Epstein's death wasn't a suicide, or it was faked. Mr. Trump's retweet of conservative commentator Terrence K. Williams continued to reverberate, drawing bipartisan ire from members of the Senate Intelligence Committee who said the president was playing directly into Kremlin interests.

Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida said Russia bots and trolls had seized on the conspiracy theory and spread it online in an effort to pit Americans against one another. "It's sad (and frightening) to see so many Americans on both sides of partisan unwittingly helping them. Putin has weaponized our polarization," he tweeted, without naming the president.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-death-apparent-suicide-inspires-conspiracy-theories-2019-08-11/


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Rigsby - 08-11-2019 06:25 PM

I've spent the day looking for these documents that everyone keeps quoting. Took a while to find them, but I uncovered some other good bits along the way.

The main one is 2000 pages long. I'll link stuff up in a bit but I don't want to get bogged down. There's a lot to get through, not just that particular document. I've been at this all day and even skipped a meal so engrossed I was, so I'm gonna do it in a LIFO topology so I don't 'pop my stack' (little programming joke there).

I think I actually found most of them via reddit funnily enough, but no matter, I've archived them all anyway.

I want to start with what I think is the most interesting one. That is to say, the one with the most information. So much of this stuff is being rehashed and rehashed even within the documents themselves. Maxwell is a major major player, and Prince Andrew's name turns up so many times in so many places it's hard to believe that the evidence that was accepted to have 'hung' Eppstein was ordered to be scrubbed as 'impertinent' and whatnot for Andy. There was some legalese to cover that, and it's well out of my pay grade, but suffice it to say, the accusations have been made public now so judge for yourself. There is a multitude of connections with him on several different levels. I wasn't particularly looking for him, but he just kept cropping up. We'll get to that in a bit.

Where to start?

Well, if Eppstein was the no.1, Maxwell was deffo the no.2.

Maybe even 911 was right in the above post and she was the no.1 and Eppstein the no.2 - I've only quickly skipped through the last couple of pages so forgive me if I repeat anything. I'll go back when I finish just to check. It's been a hard day of research. But not without its rewards.

So yeah, Maxwell - no.2, no.1 - whatever.

I have a feeling she won't be turning up anytime soon, well not alive anyway. Actually no, what I think will happen is that she will just happen to turn up at some opportune moment, but she may not be alive for much longer after that. They really have painted themselves in to a corner on this one.

She will keep on the down low for the next days, weeks possibly even months - it won't be any longer than that. She just can't be 'in the wind' for a year or more. She has some serious 'splaining to do. Ghislaine, sweetheart, wherefore art though?

The gist of all this is that there was a defamation case brought against her by one of the main protagonists:

Virginia Roberts Giuffre

https://cbs12.com/news/local/unsealed-documents-in-jeffrey-epstein-case-lists-high-profile-names

https://www.businessinsider.com/epstein-giuffre-v-maxwell-unsealed-thousands-documents-defamation-2019-8?r=US&IR=T


Maxwell said she was lying. She (Virginia) sued for defamation and they settled out of court. Some are now working towards getting further records unsealed to find out exactly why. They say it is now more pertinent than ever now that Eppstein has got whacked.

Giuffre is sometimes referred to just as 'Roberts' to confuse matters more. It's a rabbit hole.

I would like to add there is some confusion between documents, as was also noted in the court. You will find extra confusion with people quoting different documents, that are essentially regurgitating the same information.

Also, some of the exact same documents do not include their exhibits or attachments. But you can find them elsewhere if you look. It's very confusing. Without having a legal mind and without having weeks of time to pour over these, this is the best I could come up with.

Back to Maxwell.

The gist being she got sued for defamation and settled with Virginia Roberts (Giuffre).

You can see one of the documents here representing this case and you can search it as well. ("sex toy" is a good one to start with) -

https://www.scribd.com/document/421319777/Maxwell-All-Searchable

There is overlap between certain documents, but I've downloaded everything available and can make sense of them later. I'm just building up a picture for now. Files being embedded in web pages don't help either. They have the same case number but different document number. It's a cluster fuck. No matter.

Maxwell.

It may very well be that she was the kingpin of this operation. Or queenpin, at the very least. She was the main procuress of the underage girls. But she kept her hands clean for the most part, like any good mafia don. All roads lead back to her.

Also, she was as guilty as Eppstein was what with raping the children, usually in 3-somes. She had a collection of strap ons and dildos. Those are good key words to search for as well through the documents.

Their housekeeper 'Juan' tells of having to clean Maxwell's sex toys after she had massages. She would get massages by herself as well. She's a real sex case by all accounts. She has a shiny vinyl outfit in her closet that Juan noticed when he was putting the dildos back. He said that he never saw her wearing it. I bet he didn't. But I bet the children did.

One thing to note when searching these files. They include images. Images can not be searchind in pdf files. The shiny outfit thing comes up in the first few pages of the newly released docs. So I searched for 'shiny' and there is only one instance of it in the full 2000 pages. Or is there? My years of studying reverse engineering took over and the spirits were with me, and guess what? I got lucky. Pure luck.

I found another reference to it in one of the image files embedded within the pdf.

See page 1326 of the 2024 page PDF:

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6250471/Epstein-Docs.pdf

This is the main document by the way. I will keep linking it as most people don't realise this is the ONE.

Juan Alessi refers to this shiny black vinyl outfit again here. There may be other references to it, but finding this needle in the haystack was like striking Gold. Alessi is the main man and housekeeper btw of the biggest residential 7 storey 'house' in all of Manhattan (iirc). You will hear a lot more about him. He certainly knows how to play dumb, I'll give him that. He didn't get on with Maxwell who used to bitch him out.

Go to page 981 of that document where he is asked about cleaning up the vibrators and dildos from Maxwell.

From page 983:

Q. You just saw it?8
A. I saw it.9
Q. So you knew where to put it back?10
A. Yeah. We had to open the closet, clean11 the closet, put the clothes in place, put the shoes12 in place, put everything in place. So it was a13 matter of tidying things up.14
Q. Did you ever find any costumes?15
A. I saw one shiny black costume, but I16 didn't even know --17
Q. Where did you see it?18
A. The same place.19
Q. In Ms. Maxwell's closet?20
A. Yes.21



Sorry about the formatting.

Another thing to note with these documents (even the 2000 page one) is that they are very incomplete. Yes, there's a lot of info, but even in the biggest and most 'complete' versions, there are still a majority of the pages missing from the court.

Can someone say if these will be released now that Eppstein got whacked? There is an absolutely massive amount of info not included. I read in another document that there is a problem with redactions and they are going through it all, but that is should be included later.

But will it? Now that Eppstein is dead.


Ok, didn't even post what I wanted to post - the most interesting thing - I got sidetracked. I'll do that in my next post as this is getting long.


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Rigsby - 08-11-2019 07:48 PM

The main document that everyone is referencing is here:

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6250471/Epstein-Docs.pdf


But there are a few other really important ones as well, not least the Prince Andrew Affidavit.

https://www.scribd.com/document/253413783/Prince-Andrew-Affidavit

Like I said, he keeps cropping up as he is core to this whole debacle. From London to New York, From Maxwell to Eppstein.

You won't be allowed to read all of that without signing up/subbing so I found a copy you can freely view:

http://images.politico.com/global/2015/02/03/edwardsdershaff1.pdf


Keep in mind this is all underage stuff with kids but it's in the public domain now - any nasty photos have been redacted though you can get the gist of it. Explicit references to sex, explicit references to real people, and this time, not all of them are dead! Well, some of them are now, of course.

Eppstein was the fountainhead in many ways, but more and more I see he was being set up to be the fall guy all along, from way back when..

It's still a mystery why they made him take that fall, when they could have just made this all go away a lot earlier in the game. But I don't want to get in to conjecture here. These posts are for those that want to research further themselves. I've collated enough of the readily available information in my one day of work today to keep anyone going for weeks and weeks.

Another thing to note.

When searching through these documents, it seems we all have the same kind of dirty mind. It's a good place to start.

Use the keyword or search term 'sex' and you get hundreds of pages. Use the term 'sex toy' and it narrows it down quite a bit. This is what just about everyone who is reporting on this has done. They have typed in the most salacious words, like 'dildo' and hoped to come up trumps.

So just about everyone right now is regurgitating the same research because they used the same search terms.

That is why I referenced trying to find the word 'shiny' in the haystack. Keep in mind that there are a lot of scans in these pdf files and they can not be searched by text like the rest. So who knows what is in there. Just something to keep in mind.


So, OK, you want the juicy 'goss' right?

You want the deepest downlowest dirtiest damn stuff you can lay your grubby mitts on, right? It's not a bad place to start. But searching dirty words will only get you so far. Only so much of that is allowed in court and a lot of it was banned and thrown out as being, what is the legal term? I don't know, as being, not pertinent to the wider case to be answered..

So the salacious stuff only goes so far. And you won't find much of it.

Or will you?

We have to think 'outside the box' to use that particular cliche.

Not because I was looking for filth, but because I was looking for information. I don't want to get in to the whole Information Theory by Claude Shannon, but suffice it to say I've read that a few times, in my journey to understand DSP (digital signal processing) better.

I needed some kind of methodology to help me get through this mountain, to find the mole hill.

I employed my brain as a massively-parallel neural-network, running pattern-matching software to achieve my aim. (ok, now I'm just fucking with you, but keep with me).

And I did too.

And I found it. I hit the motherlode.

I didn't even know what I was looking for.

But I read that this Giuffre woman who got a settlement from Maxwell, had written a short book. And that that said book contained real life shit. Mmmmm...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-biggest-bombshells-in-newly-unsealed-jeffrey-epstein-documents?ref=scroll


Accuser Shopped Short Story “The Billionaire's Playboy Club”

Giuffre wrote and shopped around a fictionalized story about her alleged experiences with Epstein, naming him and Maxwell in the manuscript. The story describes a world where only a “selective clientele” had access to girls “trained to fulfill every sexual desire asked of them, no matter how bizarre the requests might be.” In one passage, she writes, “Jeffrey made his appearance.


So much were the spirits with me today that I can't even remember how I found it. I did find a document that alluded to it, but no 'exhibit', no 'attachment' of it in the file.

Type in 'Billionaire' in to the search field at that earlier link I gave -

https://www.scribd.com/document/421319777/Maxwell-All-Searchable

The Billionaire's Playboy Club

By Virginia Roberts!

...comes up as 'Exhibit 8', but it is not included in the document as I alluded to earlier with stuff missing. I found it.


It's on a Google drive somewhere:
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&confirm=wwJ1&id=14ZOEKwoBnDKUFI1hLbFJH5nsUFxrmNhs

Download that, now! I got it archived. I don't think it will stay up for much longer. I'm sure it's not illegal, it's just that someone a lot more skilled in 'searching' than me took a long time to dig that out. I expect the link to be dead by tomorrow...


And I wasn't even looking for her 'short story'. One more time:

Giuffre wrote and shopped around a fictionalized story about her alleged experiences with Epstein, naming him and Maxwell in the manuscript...


I just thought, damn, that sounds interesting. So much of this legal jargon that is incomplete and what is there just repeats itself (literally repeats itself - if you do a search within the documents you will know what I mean). As if one haystack was not enough...

But as I said, I wasn't looking for it, I got lucky again. Then struck Gold.

It's a 685 page pdf file. Pretty massive.

Got to page 600.

"Exhibit KK" it is called here, not "Exhibit 8" as referenced earlier in that previous link. Another discrepancy.

You will need to download the file from that Google drive. Then you will need to open it in a pdf viewer of your choice. Firefox or Chrome work.

Got to page 600.

And read:

The Billionaire's Playboy Club

By Virginia Roberts!

(Giuffre) - the one that got settled with Maxwell in court.


I'll just give credit to the Daily Beast one more time here, that gave me this lead:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-biggest-bombshells-in-newly-unsealed-jeffrey-epstein-documents?ref=scroll

Maxwell Allegedly Had Her Own Sex Slaves


When Maxwell wasn’t allegedly ordering girls to service Epstein and his friends, she abused them herself, according to at least three people. Giuffre said she, Maxwell, and Epstein “were all intimate together on multiple occasions,” her ex-boyfriend Tony Figueroa testified. Johanna Sjoberg testified that Maxwell called a girl who was giving massages to Epstein “her slave.” A former house manager testified that Maxwell received massages from girls, as well. Maxwell denies these claims.

...


But never mind all that. Finding -

The Billionaire's Playboy Club

By Virginia Roberts!


is where the real information is.

I've only got through a few bits and pieces of it. [WARNING] it is extremely explicit and graphic. I only link it because it is already in the public domain, it's an exhibit of the court, and by this point, I'm sure others will have found it and will be linking it as well.

It also gives a first hand account of what really went on there, with all those celebs and power-brokers. It is very seedy and tawdry. Pathetic even.

It is written in such a style that I think is more a diary type affair, rather than any kind of fantasy on the part of the author (who needs to fantasise when you got kingpin and queenpin Maxwell and Epstein at the helm?).

Not sure if it was written as insurance, possibly even blackmail material or just a naive attempt to catalogue events as they happened in that little girl's surreal world. I think it also may have been written naively as an attempt to secure a publishing deal as an interesting story. But I won't get in to that here. You can make your own mind up. It's where the real meat and potatoes of this gig is at.

It's not particularly well written, but hey, it's not bad, for a young girl!

How much embellishment there is is not for me to say. How much truth there is is not for me to say.

But I will say this:

For someone to keep repeating the same names and the same main figures over and over again, then well, they must have had a pretty good fantasy life in their head. I tend to think this is a glossed up and probably dumbed down version of reality as events took place.


Make up your own minds.


https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&confirm=wwJ1&id=14ZOEKwoBnDKUFI1hLbFJH5nsUFxrmNhs

Page 600.


Gentlemen, I present to you:

The Billionaire's Playboy Club

By Virginia Roberts!


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Rigsby - 08-11-2019 08:51 PM

Just a couple of excerpts from that book:


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These must be the references alluded to earlier.

I wonder how much of this is a diary of 'what really happened', to be kept for posterity, or just the ramblings of a chancer. She sounds pretty lucid to me. I'll make my mind up later.


I rushed over to the tennis courts where my Dad was working...


The 'Dad' she talks of was Trump's no.1 employee at Mar-a-lago. This is where this took place. *

Just like Barr's father ** was the first person to give Epstein a go at that school where he taught maths after dropping out of college.

Yeah, it's deep.



*
The court files also include a letter of recommendation Trump wrote for Giuffre’s father, who worked in maintenance at the resort and helped her get a job there.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/09/epstein-mar-a-lago-trump-1456221

I have his employment record on a pdf file along with all the other employees there at mar-a-lago. He left for a better job elsewhere but was given a glowing reference by Trump who would welcome him back with open arms. He was highly regarded.

She just happens to get trawled and groomed by Maxwell one day in the locker room, while reading a book about massage. Then gets offered a job as a professional masseuse, who will be trained up.

Sounds like a fucking bad Jackie Collins novel, and I should know, I've read a few!

A misspent youth, coming in handy now though!

So anyway, she trotts off and decides it's a good career opportunity to get pimped out by Maxwell and Epstein. She is asked to perform oral sex on Epstein at the first meeting, so she can't say she was groomed that much really. More an indecent proposal. But she is the victim here, let's all remember that!

She takes half an hour to realise that it's a ruse, but says fuck it, I'll do it anyway.

But it's still rape, coz she's a child, and she is not allowed to make those decisions by herself.

I am not condoning the behaviour by Epstein or Maxwell. I am not blaming the victim that was Roberts. She was too young to deal with this. She was taken advantage of.



**
Epstein started working after the summer of 1974 as a physics and mathematics teacher at the Dalton School in the Upper East Side of Manhattan.[20][23] Epstein, was hired in 1973 by Donald Barr, the headmaster at Manhattan’s private Dalton School (1964–74). Donald Barr is the father of current United States Attorney General William Barr, who has been overseeing Epstein’s recent prosecution. The hire was considered unusual because Epstein had not earned a college degree, was only 20 years of age and was described as a “noted mathematical genius”.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein


Did I mention the rabbit hole?


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Rigsby - 08-11-2019 09:12 PM

(08-11-2019 02:40 PM)911 Wrote:  
(08-11-2019 11:25 AM)ed pluribus unum Wrote:  How is it that a guy like Epstein, so close to the depravities and secrets of the globo-elites, didn't have some kind of dead-man's switch evidence-drop to keep him from being suicided? I guess either he figured he was indispensable, or the executor of his safety plan was compromised. Probably the former.

Epstein was first and foremost a good soldier for Israel, as were Robert Maxwell and his daughter Ghislaine, who was his handler and superior, behind the facade of him as a billionaire. This lends some credence to the theory that he might have been substituted, let out to a safe remote sanctuary, and his death faked.

We don't know for sure if he was suicided or extracted. The former is more likely, but as that cartoon implies, you have to be a retard to think he actually committed suicide.

The thing about Epstein is that he lived the perfect life, at least according to the more depraved hedonistic elements on this board, jet-setting between NYC, Paris and his island, hobnobbing with high society/celebrities and screwing literally thousands of beautiful young women, being an important cog in the world's foremost blackmail operation, a pure machievelian world domination power play. He is a total embodiment of the Crowley ethos (incidentally Crowley was also a depraved spy).

He had no family, no meaningful loving relationships, only very business-like trysts with an endless stream of hundreds if not thousands of shiksa sex slaves, and FWB relationships with a harem of former sex slaves that became his employees like his pilot Nadia Marcenko:

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So he's left with no family, no wife, no children or descendants, which is kind of pretty ironic given the narrative floated of him as a Bond-style eugenicist villain who wanted to seed the planet (and which shows how stupid that narrative really is...)

This is kind of important because guys in his situation with actual families would have had a strong incentive to take their secrets with them to the grave, for fear of reprisals to their loved ones. But this also means that he had no real deep friendship or tight kin that would put their lives at risk to protect him by keeping his "life insurance" folder. Had he had a wife and children, they could have come out and torpedoed the suicide narrative. He was an isolated soldier and thus was very easy to dispose of. There is "no executor of his safety plan".


Damn, nearly forgot about that little shiksa he bought from her parents to be a sex slave in the former Yugoslavia!

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She's the blonde on the left, the brunette on the right is one of the main madams beneath Maxwell that used to book the under age girls in. She and the blonde got off with some kind of plea deal (is it) where they would not get any further legal trouble.

The blonde became a pilot, as did Maxwell who Epstein paid for her flying lessons and even paid for a big black helicopter for her which she used to ferry Bill Clinton in and out of pedo Island. It's true.

The one on the right (brunette) is Sarah Kellen and she took part in the orgies, and was really in to the sex stuff as well. All documented. She also was a proper manager for all the under age girls. She sort of had that palmed off on to her by Maxwell. She got immunity too.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7229861/Where-Epsteins-accomplices-now.html


It's almost like Kill Bill really where you have this handful of really really dedicated and loyal girls who make this happen. They entrap the girls, they coordinate it, they make threats and coerce those that might step out of line.

The blonde pilot from Yugoslavia that Epstein bought from her parents:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadia_Marcinko


The brunette fixer and fellow sex fucker Kellen -

https://nypost.com/2019/08/10/meet-jeffrey-epsteins-gang-of-accused-slave-recruiters/

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epsteins-alleged-accomplices-where-are-sarah-kellen-nadia-marcinkova-adriana-ross-and-lesley-groff


A few of them got off. In more ways than one!


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - TooFineAPoint - 08-11-2019 09:34 PM

(08-11-2019 06:22 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Media is trying to clamp down on people who believe Epstein didn't commit suicide himself:

Quote:Jeffrey Epstein's apparent suicide Saturday morning in a federal jail launched new conspiracy theories online in a saga that has provided fodder for them for years, fueled by Epstein's ties to princes, politicians and other famous and powerful people.

Online theorists Saturday quickly offered unsubstantiated speculation — including some retweeted by President Trump — that Epstein's death wasn't a suicide, or it was faked. Mr. Trump's retweet of conservative commentator Terrence K. Williams continued to reverberate, drawing bipartisan ire from members of the Senate Intelligence Committee who said the president was playing directly into Kremlin interests.

Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida said Russia bots and trolls had seized on the conspiracy theory and spread it online in an effort to pit Americans against one another. "It's sad (and frightening) to see so many Americans on both sides of partisan unwittingly helping them. Putin has weaponized our polarization," he tweeted, without naming the president.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-death-apparent-suicide-inspires-conspiracy-theories-2019-08-11/

I really don't remember any wayward Dems stabbing Obama in the back like this when he was pres.

It makes me feel, no matter how disappointed one might be with Trump, he is still certainly a legit outsider as seen by half of his own party constantly nitpicking him.

And this isn't a "different between Republicans and Democrats" thing. I have never, in my lifetime, seen the president's own party so brazenly work against him.


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Rigsby - 08-11-2019 09:35 PM

And just before I check out for the night, this is the woman that got rid of all the computers that had the child porn on just before chez Epstein got raided:

Adriana Ross -


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She's mentioned a few times as well. She was a cohort of those other handful of girls super-tight with old Jeff.


This isn't rumour. It's not hearsay. It's all from court documents and corroborated from various news articles.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7229861/Where-Epsteins-accomplices-now.html


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - idolatry - 08-11-2019 11:06 PM

I'm somehow most shocked by the fact that you can have all the money and power in the world, and yet still be locked into a never-ending quest for fresher and younger pussy.


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - PABeaulieu - 08-12-2019 12:06 AM

The fact may have been already mentioned, but I think Epstein was not murdered. He only have been given an opportunity to commit suicide to put himself out of misery, and covering other deviants like him at the same time.


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Captain Gh - 08-12-2019 12:09 AM

^ no joke! Dude was good looking with fantastic features for a 66 year old man! Could've been Dan Bilzerian til laying on his death bed @ 104! If I would've been him... at one point I would've just retired and told them... I'm done... I'ma keep my mouth shut and just chill in peace with 20 years old broads til I die... we had it good Peace!


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Going strong - 08-12-2019 12:46 AM

I was wondering why Epstein was, reportedly, "eating like a pig from the floor of his cell".

Well, I heard a theory explaining quite a lot.

It goes like that: Epstein was an old and (for a long time) very valuable foreign-Intel agent in charge of high-level honeypot blackmail ops.

As I detailed in my post on page 8 of this thread, one month ago, it had become a necessity to terminate Epstein. And Epstein agreed with that, he had no other option but a quick death.

So, reportedly, his foreign handlers gave him a choice, a deal was agreed:
His handlers would kill him in his jail cell, but, in exchange he had to give away his dead man switch (his insurance), and, he had to manage to be alone in his cell.

Hence Epstein eating like a pig on the floor of his cell, to be left alone in his disgusting cell.

And his handlers then (allegedly) did the right thing: they promptly gained access to the jail at night, tampered with the video recordings, and misericordiously killed their fallen agent. It was the dignified thing to do.

Well, who knows... but, another possibility would be, Epstein endeavoring to be left alone in his cell, in order to prepare a difficult and genuine suicide.

Maybe he had learned, as a foreign agent, inventive ways to kill himself, like swallowing his own tongue or choking himself with wet toilet paper, whatever. In any case, it was the only option and outcome possible for all parties involved, Epstein included.


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - iThinkThereforeIam - 08-12-2019 01:32 AM

Interestingly 8ch.net which apparently was the only non compromised chan went dead just before Epstein's demise.

4ch is controlled and TOR nodes are monitored so anyone posting anything there will most likely get their identity exposed to the powers that be and foreign IPs are mostly blocked from posting anyway without paying for a pass and unless you mine coins yourself you will get exposed most likely as well.

It's funny that a (former) PUA forum is one of the few places left for some open discussion that isn't getting derailed yet by shills.

Epstein is a member of the tribe and so are all his female handlers involved. They don't care too much about schicksas. His whole opaque rags to riches background screams mossad and I think we all know they have ways of getting at people.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/how-did-jeffrey-epstein-make-his-fortune.html

Whether he was murdered or offered the easy way out as he was quite old already anyway with a decade max of quality living left doesn't really matter in the end.

Netanyahu and those behind him might even be the one that pulled the strings in a 4D chess move in order to get rid of his opponent:

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/.premium-netanyahu-dirties-up-ehud-barak-over-jeffrey-epstein-scandal-so-he-looks-cleaner-1.7489402


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - iThinkThereforeIam - 08-12-2019 02:14 AM

(08-11-2019 06:25 PM)Rigsby Wrote:  She has a shiny vinyl outfit in her closet that Juan noticed when he was putting the dildos back. He said that he never saw her wearing it. I bet he didn't. But I bet the children did.

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The only women getting off on power and no holds barred sex usually suffer from BPD, but then again tribe members are generally wired a bit differently than regular joe.





There is a theory that satanic elite families totally break the minds of their kids so they pursue power and wealth expansion instead of a regular life.

If you have plenty of time to read you can read up on techniques used for mind control and to facilitate such personalities:

https://fritz-springmeier.dbs2000ad.com/


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Easy_C - 08-12-2019 02:17 AM

Earlier in this thread it was mentioned the Madam was the daughter of a Mossad official.

That's a MAJOR red flag because intelligence agencies tend to focus recruiting on second and third generation spies.


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Hypno - 08-12-2019 05:57 AM

(08-11-2019 03:34 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  
(08-11-2019 01:46 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  And? You're basically crucifying him for gettin some on the side! Honorable...no... But to question the love he had for the American People is absurd. Is doesn't get bigger than a SITTING US PRESIDENT GETTING WACKED. It's not even a secret that he was desperately trying to put the US back on the Gold Standard. There's a reason why no one as tried since!

I just get so absolutely disgusted reading this stuff. People who do not know the most elemental aspects of U.S. history flouting their unbridled ignorance -- and then other members giving them likes for their ignorance.

1) JFK gets assassinated on November 22, 1963.

2) Richard Nixon takes the U.S. off the gold standard on August 15, 1971.

3) Captain Gh: claims that JFK was was "desperately trying to put the US back on the Gold Standard," when the U.S. was not even off the gold standard until eight years after his death.

This lack of knowledge regarding basic American history is absolutely mind blowing. Nor is there any excuse for it. Ever hear of Google?

JFK had no love for his country, at least not any love that exceeded his love for himself. Otherwise, he would not have compromised himself and his country by cavorting with known communist and Nazi spies, opening himself to blackmail and worse. He and his brothers were narcissists and sociopaths who were not fit to hold any elected office, much less the Presidency.

The entire reason that JFK was able to get whacked was because he was a scumbag who hung out with so many other scumbags that there were far too many suspects to ever uncover the truth about his murder.

Its hard to say definitively why JFK was taken out, he had many enemies from the intelligence agencies, mafia, bankers and white supremacists.

As for money, FDR had taken us off the gold standard domestically but foreigners could still convert dollars to gold. There was a gold pool that maniupated the price of gold in dollar terms to keep it at $35. But France quit and was converting dollars to gold after the Viet Nam war ramped up and deficits spiked, which led Nixon to "temporarily" abandon the gold standard (his words, not mine).

JFK never really got involved in the gold issue. Instead, he started issuing U.S. Treasury notes instead of Federal Reserve Notes. That simple step was 1,000 time more provocative then ending the gold standard and likely got him killed. That is because if the U.S. Treasury issues debt directly, in the form of US Notes, then it need never pay interest to the Federal Reserve. Note that Andrew Jackson (opposed a central bank) and Lincoln (issued unbacked federal debt called greenbacks in competition with the banks) did similar things - opposed central banks - and were the subject of assasination attempts.


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - KnjazMihailo - 08-12-2019 06:21 AM

(08-11-2019 06:22 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Media is trying to clamp down on people who believe Epstein didn't commit suicide himself:

Quote:Jeffrey Epstein's apparent suicide Saturday morning in a federal jail launched new conspiracy theories online in a saga that has provided fodder for them for years, fueled by Epstein's ties to princes, politicians and other famous and powerful people.

Online theorists Saturday quickly offered unsubstantiated speculation — including some retweeted by President Trump — that Epstein's death wasn't a suicide, or it was faked. Mr. Trump's retweet of conservative commentator Terrence K. Williams continued to reverberate, drawing bipartisan ire from members of the Senate Intelligence Committee who said the president was playing directly into Kremlin interests.

Republican Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida said Russia bots and trolls had seized on the conspiracy theory and spread it online in an effort to pit Americans against one another. "It's sad (and frightening) to see so many Americans on both sides of partisan unwittingly helping them. Putin has weaponized our polarization," he tweeted, without naming the president.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-death-apparent-suicide-inspires-conspiracy-theories-2019-08-11/

Are these people for real??? Russian interference/trolls is responsible for "divisive conspiracy theories" about Jeffrey Epstein and his "alleged suicide"???

It's sad that enough Americans will seriously fall for this garbage considering they feel for the whole Russia collusion in Trump's election. It's completely ridiculous, bizarre, and just, pure chutzpah, for the media to try the angle of Russian trolls behind all the conspiracy theories around Jeffrey Epstein. It's too early to tell if the media is seriously going to use this as its main response, but if it does, it may unfortunately work considering how everyone bought into "ebil Russia" and "Putler" hacking the US elections in 2016 ...


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Easy_C - 08-12-2019 07:04 AM

Came across a gem.

Former CBS exec claims Epstein was directly connected with Mossad.

READ THE WHOLE THREAD




RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - CynicalContrarian - 08-12-2019 07:34 AM

Humour purposes.
With Area 51, it is the current trend after-all.

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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - roberto - 08-12-2019 07:38 AM

Looks like the suicide watch worked.. they reported it pretty promptly after all.

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