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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Tail Gunner - 08-14-2019 09:56 AM

(08-14-2019 03:05 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  It's nothing personal, GS. This is all libertarian hamstering that I used to not only believe in but advocate for. I was banging from late 15 (a late start for some in my set) and the age of consent never registered in my mind because social game meant that everyone was roughly the same age anyway.

But make no mistake, dancing around the age of consent is degeneracy and if we want to kill that hamster entirely then Roosh is correct that all pre-marital sex is degeneracy.

In a sane, orderly society the father hands his daughter to her first, last and only husband who beds her on their wedding night. Step outside of that and it's only a matter of time until we end up where we are today.

You simply cannot choose to have sexual liberation and social conservatism. I don't hold Epstien's whores responsible for their actions because I don't believe women have agency full stop. In a sane world I might not even give them citizenship. Patriarchy is not just a word. It's a way of life. The root cause of all this madness is weak, Godless men. Women are barely a step above children and I'd no sooner hold a woman responsible for the destruction of society than I would hold a toddler to the same standard.

Incidentally this is why boomer-tier whining about feminism is so pathetic. You can't give a dog a bag of dog food and tell him to make it last the month. If someone does that and the dog gorges itself to death then the owner is the idiot, not the dog.

While I agree with much of what you say, the plain fact is that once society has given women the right to vote then women must be held accountable for their actions just like any other citizens, especially if women voters are responsible for turning society into a cesspool. Responsibility without accountability is the mother of corruption.

The argument for the women's vote was that the loving and nurturing aspects of the more gentle sex would act as a countervailing force against masculine male votes. Instead, society morphed from a more logical and rational society into a snake pit of vapid socialist politicians elected based upon emotionalism, personal appearance, the promise of unlimited social welfare programs that ensures permanent generational poverty and eventual governmental bankruptcy, and a new parasite class as a permanent shadow government. The Patriarchy has been dead for 100 years -- once men decided to cede the control of their rationally-run governments to women (and to men who think and feel like women).


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - ilostabet - 08-14-2019 10:22 AM

you know why men gave women the right to vote? because someone gave common men the right to vote. the problem started there.


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Leonard D Neubache - 08-14-2019 10:25 AM

You and I have no power to hold women to account so the point is moot. You can only put your own house in order and avoid the fallout from clown world to the best of your ability.

In the meanwhile there is no point in personally accepting flawed systems of ideology in a pointless attempt to salvage the current system. Once you withdraw yourself psychologically from this madness and accept that you're living under a satanist occupied state then you'll feel less inclined to waste your time deciding things like "what burden of guilt does an underage girl have for prostituting herself?"

You can simply look at the mess and say "satanist occupied government, the only relevant question is whether she finds God or she remains damned".


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Tail Gunner - 08-14-2019 10:40 AM

(08-14-2019 10:22 AM)ilostabet Wrote:  you know why men gave women the right to vote? because someone gave common men the right to vote. the problem started there.

Well, I am not sure about "common men," but I agree with anyone who was not a landowner, a merchant, or otherwise paid property taxes.

Almost half the people who vote in the U.S. today pay no income taxes. So, why should they get to decide how that money is spent?


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - jordypip23 - 08-14-2019 10:55 AM

(08-14-2019 09:45 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  
(08-14-2019 08:59 AM)Sherman Wrote:  According to his bio, it looks like Epstein made his money with hedge funds. It is not clear what benefit he derived from hanging out with powerful politicians, except to stroke his massive ego. The real scandal here is that a man made a billion dollars, not by working and contributing to society, but by gaming a corrupt financial system. Why did he have access to such powerful men just because had had some money (which he stole from us) and spread it around to politicians. The real issue is the corruption of this system. Why are we ruled by people who are selected only by money? But Americans are so obsessed with sex. All they see is sex, sex, sex that they don't see the real problem hanging right under their noses.

Bullshit - that guy never ever made his cash as a super-trader climbing his way up. There is zero chance for that! He was given all of his jobs and likely faked being a billionaire anyway.

There are self-made billionaires from hedge-funds, but he does not even remotely approach their profile. Epstein was a school teacher without even having finished his degree.

Epstein was a con-artist and his main skill was precurement of girls, some Game and social charme - that's it.

From my understanding, the guy was a "money manager" that only managed accounts of a billion USD or greater. And the most well-known client was Leslie Wexner, the Jewish billionaire CEO of Limited Brands (clothing company) out of Columbus, Ohio.

Simply being entrusted to manage these guys' money I'm sure he was making a killing simply off of a standard percentage of assets invested as well as any trading activities (equities, bonds, options, futures, currencies, swaps, etc.). The guy probably was a decent trader given the fact that he was in fact a math whiz. This isn't all too different from what "hedge funds" try to do right?

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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Sherman - 08-14-2019 11:18 AM

Correct. He was a math whiz and so could game the financial system. But he had zero charm with women and had to pay them money. Furthermore, with his vast resources look where he ended up, showing very little political ability. High Math IQ. Low Political IQ. Low Social IQ. But he gets access to power because he has the money. America is a plutocracy.


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - jeffreyjerpp - 08-14-2019 11:20 AM

(08-14-2019 10:55 AM)jordypip23 Wrote:  Simply being entrusted to manage these guys' money I'm sure he was making a killing simply off of a standard percentage of assets invested as well as any trading activities (equities, bonds, options, futures, currencies, swaps, etc.). The guy probably was a decent trader given the fact that he was in fact a math whiz. This isn't all too different from what "hedge funds" try to do right?

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I highly doubt he did any real trading.

Where is his trading record? Why can't anyone remember trading against him? How about Epstein's annual returns vs. the S&P 500?

Whatever was going on with the money Epstein was "managing", we will probably never know.

Epstein claimed a net worth of >$500M when he was arrested. A vast fortune, to be sure. This is far more money than he could have made running an international prostitution ring, even one consisting of beautiful teenage girls.

At one point Wexner bought, and gifted Epstein a $50M mansion. Why the hell would he do that, even if Epstein was his very best employee? Why was Epstein's island wired for video and audio capture? How about the constant international travel to France and other countries? Where did all the other money come from?

The mystery is incredible. Were politicians and CEOs getting blackmailed for millions? Was Epstein helping to launder money for sophisticated players? Maybe he was facilitating an intelligence operation whereby assets needed to be placed into his name?

Whatever crimes he committed, he very clearly had extremely powerful people directly helping him the entire time. To such an extent it almost seems like he was possibly not even the main player in his own operation, whatever that might have been. The saddest thing about his death is that we'll probably never know who was really responsible, or what was really happening.


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Hypno - 08-14-2019 11:26 AM

If politicians were getting blackmailed, who was it and what policies did they enact as a result?


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Knight of Malta - 08-14-2019 11:46 AM

People have been speculating what the elites would do in the coming week to distract from Epstein.

I guess they've decided that crashing the economy is worth covering this up.




RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - iThinkThereforeIam - 08-14-2019 11:57 AM

(08-14-2019 11:46 AM)Knight of Malta Wrote:  People have been speculating what the elites would do in the coming week to distract from Epstein.

I guess they've decided that crashing the economy is worth covering this up.


If the whole Epstein case isn't a Nethanyahu 4D chess move, it's most likely a planned part of accelerationism before a false messiah moves in and vows to fix it all with one world communism, UBI, a crypto currency that is fully traceable and a mark of the beast (RFID implant, bar code etc.).

In order for that to happen there needs to be a huge economic crash as well.

JP Morgan’s top quant warns next crisis to have flash crashes and social unrest not seen in 50 years

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/04/jpmorgan-says-next-crisis-will-feature-flash-crashes-and-social-unrest.html


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - El Chinito loco - 08-14-2019 11:59 AM

(08-14-2019 11:46 AM)Knight of Malta Wrote:  People have been speculating what the elites would do in the coming week to distract from Epstein.

I guess they've decided that crashing the economy is worth covering this up.


Nah this is actually normal. Market is way overextended as it is. An inversion just means a market is about to hit its peak within the next 2 years (historically) then kick off a bear market. That would make total sense given the extremely long bull trend so far.


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Tail Gunner - 08-14-2019 12:05 PM

(08-14-2019 11:46 AM)Knight of Malta Wrote:  People have been speculating what the elites would do in the coming week to distract from Epstein.

I guess they've decided that crashing the economy is worth covering this up.


These are the kind of comments that make all conspiracy theorists sound like nuts. I follow economics and the markets closely. The trade war with China and the yield curve inversion is causing this market volatility.


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - jeffreyjerpp - 08-14-2019 12:57 PM

(08-14-2019 11:46 AM)Knight of Malta Wrote:  People have been speculating what the elites would do in the coming week to distract from Epstein.

I guess they've decided that crashing the economy is worth covering this up.

This is a ridiculous idea.

If Epstein's exposure, Trump's election, the rejection of European Union in Italy/UK/France, surging gold and bitcoin prices etc, didn't get the message through to you, let me make it clear: the elites are no longer in control of anything. They can no longer manage social narratives, the economy, or anything else for that matter.

The elites may LARP as sophisticated powerbrokers.....in reality they spent their time and money on shiny objects and banging hot teens.

Take away the pretentious facade, and they are no different than hoodrats or hillbillies. No vision, no ideals to speak of, just vacuous, narcissistic idiots steering us into oblivion.

We are at the end of the "stealth looting" phase, and moving into the "collapse" phase, where the corruption is so obviously visible it spurs a mass loss of confidence, rejection of the authority, and eventually revolt.

Buckle your seatbelts...


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - jordypip23 - 08-14-2019 01:18 PM

Former IT contractor for Jeffrey Epstein says he quit over concerns about revealing pictures and topless young women

This IT contractor made about $400K on these jobs alone.

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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Simeon_Strangelight - 08-14-2019 01:25 PM

(08-14-2019 11:20 AM)jeffreyjerpp Wrote:  
(08-14-2019 10:55 AM)jordypip23 Wrote:  Simply being entrusted to manage these guys' money I'm sure he was making a killing simply off of a standard percentage of assets invested as well as any trading activities (equities, bonds, options, futures, currencies, swaps, etc.). The guy probably was a decent trader given the fact that he was in fact a math whiz. This isn't all too different from what "hedge funds" try to do right?

[Image: wexner-epstein-resized2.jpg]

I highly doubt he did any real trading.

Where is his trading record? Why can't anyone remember trading against him? How about Epstein's annual returns vs. the S&P 500?

Whatever was going on with the money Epstein was "managing", we will probably never know.

Epstein claimed a net worth of >$500M when he was arrested. A vast fortune, to be sure. This is far more money than he could have made running an international prostitution ring, even one consisting of beautiful teenage girls.

At one point Wexner bought, and gifted Epstein a $50M mansion. Why the hell would he do that, even if Epstein was his very best employee? Why was Epstein's island wired for video and audio capture? How about the constant international travel to France and other countries? Where did all the other money come from?

The mystery is incredible. Were politicians and CEOs getting blackmailed for millions? Was Epstein helping to launder money for sophisticated players? Maybe he was facilitating an intelligence operation whereby assets needed to be placed into his name?

Whatever crimes he committed, he very clearly had extremely powerful people directly helping him the entire time. To such an extent it almost seems like he was possibly not even the main player in his own operation, whatever that might have been. The saddest thing about his death is that we'll probably never know who was really responsible, or what was really happening.

Who says that he was a math genius?

Some of his first businesses is recovering money from fraudulant investments.

If you are deep into intelligence agencies, then this business is a no-brainer. That's like having access to a bunch of licensed killers who put pressure on white-collar-fraudsters - like shooting fish in a barrell.

When I hear reports from him being a "miracle investor" it's the same explanations that tell you how senators have stock market returns of 5000%. They took care of that bummer by making insider trading legal, but even that isn't the full extent of the story as some senators made 500%+ per year in their portfolios.

In addition - mathematical ability does not help you at all at trading unless you are a quant and back in the day that guy wasn't it as he was into girls knickers in his late 20s.

Seriously - believing all that garbage about people. Yeah - and Mark Cuban is a super-investor because he sold Yahoo a crap-company for 5.7 bio. $ despite it being worth at best 10 mio. $. And that Cuban guy likely has more ability as an investor than Epstein.

There are self-made men out there, but Epstein stinks to be a plant who was allowed to accumulate wealth - his real job was something else.


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - jordypip23 - 08-14-2019 01:44 PM

(08-14-2019 01:25 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  
(08-14-2019 11:20 AM)jeffreyjerpp Wrote:  
(08-14-2019 10:55 AM)jordypip23 Wrote:  Simply being entrusted to manage these guys' money I'm sure he was making a killing simply off of a standard percentage of assets invested as well as any trading activities (equities, bonds, options, futures, currencies, swaps, etc.). The guy probably was a decent trader given the fact that he was in fact a math whiz. This isn't all too different from what "hedge funds" try to do right?

[Image: wexner-epstein-resized2.jpg]

I highly doubt he did any real trading.

Where is his trading record? Why can't anyone remember trading against him? How about Epstein's annual returns vs. the S&P 500?

Whatever was going on with the money Epstein was "managing", we will probably never know.

Epstein claimed a net worth of >$500M when he was arrested. A vast fortune, to be sure. This is far more money than he could have made running an international prostitution ring, even one consisting of beautiful teenage girls.

At one point Wexner bought, and gifted Epstein a $50M mansion. Why the hell would he do that, even if Epstein was his very best employee? Why was Epstein's island wired for video and audio capture? How about the constant international travel to France and other countries? Where did all the other money come from?

The mystery is incredible. Were politicians and CEOs getting blackmailed for millions? Was Epstein helping to launder money for sophisticated players? Maybe he was facilitating an intelligence operation whereby assets needed to be placed into his name?

Whatever crimes he committed, he very clearly had extremely powerful people directly helping him the entire time. To such an extent it almost seems like he was possibly not even the main player in his own operation, whatever that might have been. The saddest thing about his death is that we'll probably never know who was really responsible, or what was really happening.

Who says that he was a math genius?

Some of his first businesses is recovering money from fraudulant investments.

If you are deep into intelligence agencies, then this business is a no-brainer. That's like having access to a bunch of licensed killers who put pressure on white-collar-fraudsters - like shooting fish in a barrell.

When I hear reports from him being a "miracle investor" it's the same explanations that tell you how senators have stock market returns of 5000%. They took care of that bummer by making insider trading legal, but even that isn't the full extent of the story as some senators made 500%+ per year in their portfolios.

In addition - mathematical ability does not help you at all at trading unless you are a quant and back in the day that guy wasn't it as he was into girls knickers in his late 20s.

Seriously - believing all that garbage about people. Yeah - and Mark Cuban is a super-investor because he sold Yahoo a crap-company for 5.7 bio. $ despite it being worth at best 10 mio. $. And that Cuban guy likely has more ability as an investor than Epstein.

There are self-made men out there, but Epstein stinks to be a plant who was allowed to accumulate wealth - his real job was something else.

I get your point. In all actuality the guy's investing skills were perhaps only marginally better (if that) than an infamous Bernard "Bernie" Madoff, the Jewish, NY/FL Ponzi scheming king of recent times.

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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Hypno - 08-14-2019 01:45 PM

He is a math genius who literally won the lottery and Hillary is an expert on cattle futures


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Sherman - 08-14-2019 01:52 PM

His bio mentions he was an options trader, which is highly mathematical. But, of course, that doesn't mean he made his money there.


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - Syberpunk - 08-14-2019 02:10 PM

(08-13-2019 03:55 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  We have not seen any official press conference in the Jeffrey Epstein case. This whole "suicide" mess reeks BS.

If only he had lived, IMAGINE.

There is no doubt that he have got truly grilled with the pertinent questions that needed answering, no soft balls from this prosecution:






RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - jordypip23 - 08-14-2019 02:15 PM

Ghislaine Maxwell has apparently been spotted in suburban Boston (Massachusetts):

EXCLUSIVE: Ghislaine Maxwell's respectable new life: Jeffrey Epstein's long-time consort and the alleged procurer of his underage victims has been living with 43-year-old tech CEO at his secluded $3M oceanfront mansion outside of Boston - Daily Mail (UK)

Jeffrey Epstein’s gal pal Ghislaine Maxwell lying low at Massachusetts mansion - NY Post

Is Jeffrey Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell in Massachusetts? - The Boston Globe

Epstein’s Alleged Madam, Ghislaine Maxwell, Has Been Found - The Cut

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RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - jordypip23 - 08-14-2019 02:21 PM

The sociopathic, twisted dominatrix criminal Ghislaine Maxwell is quite the charmer:

TerraMar Founder (Ghislaine Maxwell) Speaks at the United Nations:





GHISLAINE MAXWELL on PROTECTING THE WORLD'S OCEANS






Terramar Project's Ghislaine Maxwell: a Community for the Oceans







RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - jordypip23 - 08-14-2019 02:21 PM

The evil woman's true nature revealed in this article:

“THEY’RE NOTHING, THESE GIRLS”: UNRAVELING THE MYSTERY OF GHISLAINE MAXWELL, EPSTEIN’S ENABLER - Vanity Fair

Nice quote here - Maxwell had one other thing to tell this woman: “When I asked what she thought of the underage girls, she looked at me and said, ‘they’re nothing, these girls. They are trash.’”

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Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell (right) with Carol Mack at an event in New York City, 1995.


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - DannyAlberta - 08-14-2019 02:29 PM

Did Epstein have a portrait of Bill Clinton in a dress in his Manhattan property?

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Take it with a grain of salt, given the anonymous sourcing and the fact it appears in the Daily Mail. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7353967/Did-Jeffrey-Epstein-portrait-Bill-Clinton-blue-dress-red-heels-NYC-mansion.html

Quote:Jeffrey Epstein had a bizarre portrait which appeared to be of Bill Clinton in a dress hanging in his Manhattan mansion, DailyMailTV can reveal.

...

The painting was secretly snapped inside the pedophile's lavish $56 million home in October 2012, four years after Epstein completed his sweetheart deal for prostitution of a minor and seven years before he was accused of running a sex trafficking ring of underage girls.

The source, who asked to remain anonymous, was visiting Epstein to present a business proposal - an encounter with the pervert which included spotting a girl who seemed to be 14 waiting to see the financier.

The woman said she was shocked to catch sight of the portrait through an open door as she walked through the ornate home with her business partner.

She told DailyMailTV: 'It was absolutely Bill Clinton. It was shocking - it was definitely a painting of him. It was a very provocative, sexual picture. He was wearing heels, a blue dress and his hand was in a weird position.' ...

I suspect it's possible. These people truly are weird.


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - jordypip23 - 08-14-2019 03:00 PM

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Ongoing relationship? Epstein's alleged procurer, Ghislaine Maxwell, was one of the guests at Chelsea Clinton's 2010 wedding to Marc Mezvinsky, at least a year after the former president says he last spoke to the pervert financier


RE: Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking - budoslavic - 08-14-2019 04:41 PM

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