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Game Saves Lives: The Fallen Men Thread - Manbeline - 09-13-2019 01:04 PM

I was thinking about threads like Pictures where you are sure the man will get dumped and came to the realization that a thread like this would be cool to have. I had the thought today where I realized that if Michael Jackson had game, he would not only be still alive today, he would be the most powerful musician of our time, even till now. This thread is for us to post people, either now or in history, who would have been saved from their tragedies had they understood the full concept of game. By Game, I mean the complete masculine self unaffected by chaos of life. Complete control.

Michael Jackson was coddled from childhood all the way to his death. His father was abusive, his brothers could not help him, and his managers throughout his music career exploited him like thieves. There was no father figure in his life. No alpha men around to help him through the darkness. But it makes sense: you won't find any masculinity in the entertainment industry, at least anything mainstream. MJ was a product of unfortunate circumstances. Women and cretins ruled his life. His mannerisms were female. His voice female. His personality female. He was just lacking a sex change and he would have converted nicely.

Imagine if MJ had some form of semblance of Game to have been taught to him. He would have been more confident. He would be fucking over hundreds of women a year rather than being secured behind a audio recording booth. He wouldn't have been using porn to unleash his sexual desires. He would have actual friends. MJ was a skinny bastard, so even lifting a few weights or doing running sets would have made him far more confident and attractive as the increase in testosterone would do well for his masculinity. I admit MJ was a very good dancer, and likely had a lot of physical endurance, but he was way too skinny to go further than he already was. He wouldn't have fallen to drugs as hard as he did, though that Pepsi commercial was one of the worst things that could happen to him. And most of all, he wouldn't have OD'd and died. MJ died because he lost the will to live, which made him depend strongly on the immediate pleasures that surrounded him in his home before his untimely death.

Game is about sensing the sharks in the water and knowing to stay away. Game is knowing that you are the alpha, and taking charge of your life and destiny. Michael Jackson was beta. He had the fame, he had the value, he had the once-in-a-lifetime fame. And he didn't get to use any of it to its fullest. He was a damn good musician, but a very poor model of a man. RIP.

Feel free to add your own mentions of any people you feel could have been uprooted by just a slight dose of Game.


RE: Game Saves Lives: The Fallen Men Thread - Eazy_E - 09-13-2019 01:17 PM

If Michael Jackson was a gottdamn sexual Tyrannosaurus, like I'm sure the OP is, so as to render such a judgement, he wouldn't have been Micheal Jackson. His voice, his mannerisms, all that stuff, that's why we was where he was at. He was the right guy, at the right time. You couldn't trade 50 cent for Michael Jackson and get the same outcome, like Don Henley is the right sound for The Eagles but he's not the right sound for Metallica. Don Henley wouldn't have turned into Don Henley is he tried metal.

If Michael Jackson was a gottdamn sexual Tyrannosaurus, like the OP, he'd have been just another guy from Gary, Indiana. These mental games are useless.


RE: Game Saves Lives: The Fallen Men Thread - Manbeline - 09-13-2019 01:34 PM

(09-13-2019 01:17 PM)Eazy_E Wrote:  If Michael Jackson was a gottdamn sexual Tyrannosaurus, like I'm sure the OP is, so as to render such a judgement, he wouldn't have been Micheal Jackson. His voice, his mannerisms, all that stuff, that's why we was where he was at. He was the right guy, at the right time. You couldn't trade 50 cent for Michael Jackson and get the same outcome, like Don Henley is the right sound for The Eagles but he's not the right sound for Metallica. Don Henley wouldn't have turned into Don Henley is he tried metal.

If Michael Jackson was a gottdamn sexual Tyrannosaurus, like the OP, he'd have been just another guy from Gary, Indiana. These mental games are useless.
Why are you strawmanning in a thread that is meant simply to display a quality of masculinity, and meant to be a chill one, to project that criticizing a dead celebrity is the hallmark of an egotistical trip?


RE: Game Saves Lives: The Fallen Men Thread - Eazy_E - 09-13-2019 01:42 PM

Dupe


RE: Game Saves Lives: The Fallen Men Thread - Eazy_E - 09-13-2019 01:44 PM

I'm just saying that game wouldn't have saved Michael Jackson because Michael Jackson with game wouldn't have turned into Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson was a bread and circus certified freak show that the public had an insatiable appetite for, and that's why he was rich and famous. If he acted like 50 cent or Lil Wayne, he'd have never left Gary.

So yeah, you're right, if Michael Jackson was an alpha male King Kong super dick predator terminator, yeah, he wouldn't have been stepped on, but he'd also have lived and died in Gary Indiana a nobody too. He was a shooting star, like Johnny the school boy who heard his first Beetles song. He was destined to die the same way, bottle of whiskey, sleeping tablets by his head.


RE: Game Saves Lives: The Fallen Men Thread - Manbeline - 09-13-2019 01:46 PM

The strange thing is that you immediately assumed that becoming an alpha black male meant he would turn into a grade A hoodlum rapper. That talks more about your stereotypical presumptions and comes less from an intellectual analysis. Clearly, you've forgotten about the many smoother R&B musicians of our time who didn't perpetrate the atmosphere of hood culture.


RE: Game Saves Lives: The Fallen Men Thread - Eazy_E - 09-13-2019 01:52 PM

He was born in 1958, he wouldn't have been a gangsta rapper. He stated out with his brothers in the Jackson 5, a pop band. They had the look and sound to be a pop band. They didn't have the look and sound to do R&B, anymore than Otis Redding or Ray Charles had the look or sound to do screamo. You're gonna have a bunch of pre pubescent boys singing about the love and loss of good R&B? It's not gonna get off the ground.

He was the man of his time, and his life is as fucked up as a hatchet attack in a crowded elevator, but the only reason we know his name are all is because of his freak show life and upbringing.


RE: Game Saves Lives: The Fallen Men Thread - Col. Tigh - 09-13-2019 04:16 PM

Michael Jackson wasn’t a beta—he was a homosexual pederast. Anyone who thinks Michael Jackson ever had sexual intercourse with a woman, or any desire to do so whatsoever, is deluding himself.


RE: Game Saves Lives: The Fallen Men Thread - JiggyLordJr - 09-14-2019 03:07 AM

I like the idea of this thread, but to echo Easy E, it's just not possible to guage where someone would be had they learned game. I suppose it's fair to assume that late incels would be alive if they learned game, but beyond that it's hard to tell where they land after. The Butterfly Effect is real.