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"Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - Roosh - 09-20-2019 05:02 PM

The signs put people in a double bind, forcing them to pick between being sexist or Islamophobic.



Laugh


RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - Rush87 - 09-20-2019 05:14 PM

I like how the headline is "Offensive flyers posted in Winchester". If I was a guest speaker I would ask the Liberal hosts: "So why exactly is the poster offensive?". There response would be a well timed technical issue.

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RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - Solitaire - 09-20-2019 05:55 PM

Goodness knows we don't want anyone to have to think through any particular point of view that they hold. Just be offended instead.


RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - debeguiled - 09-20-2019 06:04 PM

It's okay to put up posters.


RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - LEMONed IScream - 09-20-2019 06:09 PM

Didn't the Caliphates start biting the dust (hehe) when they began to employ women in the bureaucratic positions and teaching at their (best in the world at the time) universties? Wink


RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - Vladimir Poontang - 09-20-2019 06:15 PM

The female at 1:55 makes a very coherent point about why the poster is terrible. I thought it was a good poster until I heard her wise words. My only criticism is that she didn't use air quotes at any point like the female before her. If she had, her argument would have been slightly stronger. I'm glad women can vote.


RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - scorpion - 09-20-2019 06:34 PM

I've written before about how leftists and Muslims both view each other as useful idiots. It's not like liberals don't understand that what Islam teaches conflicts with their values. They just choose to ignore it because Islam is a useful weapon against their most hated enemy - the white, Christian male. Leftists believe that Muslims will drop their religious values over time and convert to the religion of globohomo. Muslims (at least the ones liberals talk to) are happy to play along with the leftist fantasy of multicultural tolerance for the time being. They know their day is coming and the demographics on their side, especially in Europe.


RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - MajorStyles - 09-20-2019 07:00 PM

Liberal cat ladies be like...

Mindblown


RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - CynicalContrarian - 09-20-2019 07:05 PM

For they so loved 'diversity'.

They wound up dividing themselves...


RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - OskuroPekenyo - 09-20-2019 08:27 PM

What does the guy posting flyers think Islam is?

Huh

Women do have rights in Islam, but we recognize that they are different to men in physiology and psychology (and the sociological consequences of the differences). We do not try to force them to be men.

Spiritually, they have the same duties as men: six articles of belief, five pillars of practice, studying the religion, reading the Qur'an etc.

The sexes are warned not to imitate one another as a guideline. Men are not allowed to wear silk or gold or be deliberately effeminate for example. Women are not to ape men.

A few notes:

Hijab

Keywords:
Hijab - Literally barrier
Awrah - The body parts to cover (in presence of others)
Mahram - A member of opposite sex forbidden to marry (e.g. family members)
Non-mahram - A member of the opposite sex allowed to marry (e.g. strangers)
Dayyouth - indifferent to immorality of women

Your Hijab covers your Awrah.

The male awrah is everything between the navel and the knees. This is the bare minimum to cover but usually, men cover more than this.

The female awrah in front of other females is the same, but again this is the bare minimum and it is very strongly disliked for a woman to uncover everything other than between the navel and the knees in front of other women.

In front of mahram males it is the whole body, except the whole head, neck, forearms and feet. In public, in front of non-mahram males, the entire body except the face and the hands up to the wrists is awrah.

Usually uncovering the awrah inappropriately leads to embarrassment and loss of honor if done continuously. Being known for sin also causes dishonor. Some ethnic groups and tribes deal with the loss of honor by marrying off the dishonored person with other dishonored persons. This is tribal and cultural.

Others deal with dishonor violently by borrowing from their pre-Islamic ethnic honor code. This is not Islamic at all.

Consciously removing the hijab in public is an act of disobedience to God spiritually. Socially (and materially), for women, it is an act of hypogamy, they are unlikely to even want to do it. Violating the hijab reduces ones social value and people will want to associate less with one.

Women and men are not allowed to freely mix and mingle as this violates hijab.

In Sharia, women are free to pursue any hobby as long as this does not cause them to sin or violate hijab.

Some communities are too poor to organize many hobbies for women without violating hijab. Separate problem.

Family
Mothers have a lot of respect and rights in Islam. They are emphasized three times more than fathers when it comes to duties.

In marriage, the man is charged with taking full care of the wife (according to his means). He is not even allowed to count on her having her own wealth, expenses of the household come from his wealth. Women have to obey their husband as their leader (as long as this does not lead to disobedience to Allah).

Quote:Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I urge you to treat women well.”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 331; Muslim, 1468

Quote:Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The best of you is the one who is best to his wife, and I am the best of you to my wives.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 3895; Ibn Maajah, 1977;

Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Ibn Maajah.

Daughters?

Quote:Ibn Maajah (3669) narrated that ‘Uqbah ibn ‘Aamir (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Whoever has three daughters and is patient towards them, and feeds them, gives them to drink and clothes them from his riches, they will be a shield for him from the Fire on the Day of Resurrection.”

Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Ibn Maajah.

Islam is serious with men when it comes to putting up with social immorality from related women. Being a dayyouth lands you in hell.

Strange women? One should not free-mix.

Punishments
Punishments (for either sex) for fornication, adultery, sodomy and other crimes of this kind require four eye-witnesses of the same act, a court and a qualified judge at the minimum.

This does not punish personal sins and drama, one repents to God for these. You would have to have a long view count or confess against yourself to get convicted and incur full the punishment. Only publicly engaging in this behavior will put one in court.

It makes industry based in sin impossible.

The poster
I appreciate the humor value in the poster and its context but its potential to misinform causes concern.

I believe Islam is right about everything.

Salam,


RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - Kungfu - 09-20-2019 09:43 PM

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RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - Leonard D Neubache - 09-20-2019 09:48 PM

(09-20-2019 06:34 PM)scorpion Wrote:  I've written before about how leftists and Muslims both view each other as useful idiots. It's not like liberals don't understand that what Islam teaches conflicts with their values. They just choose to ignore it because Islam is a useful weapon against their most hated enemy - the white, Christian male. Leftists believe that Muslims will drop their religious values over time and convert to the religion of globohomo. Muslims (at least the ones liberals talk to) are happy to play along with the leftist fantasy of multicultural tolerance for the time being. They know their day is coming and the demographics on their side, especially in Europe.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of the tired old "liberals are the real racists" crap but it's amazing to see them treat their new foreign pets like dumb shelter animals who are currently too stupid and backward to be held accountable for their behavior.


RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - Sherman - 09-20-2019 11:10 PM

It's amazing that something that simple would cause enough stress to get on the news. It shows how mentally fragile people are becoming. The ambiguity is a nice psychological touch, because they don't know whether they should be upset or not, because they aren't sure what it means, which adds to the stress. The poster probably knew something about NLP, which teaches how to use ambiguity.


RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - NoMoreTO - 09-20-2019 11:46 PM

Simplest possibility is a muslim put up the poster. Then is it a crime, or just evangelization ?


RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - Kona - 09-21-2019 02:24 AM

This is a big smokescreen to divert media attention away from the fact that the town of Winchester is being overrun by Australians. I counted two in that video.

That or it's an 11-year-old boy that got ahold of Microsoft Word and an hp deskjet. First thing I did when I got Printshop was whip up some "Free Puppies" signs with my teacher's phone number on them.

Aloha!


RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - Tex Cruise - 09-21-2019 04:00 AM

What I actually said was "Somebody should take to these Australian bitches with a Winchester" and they got it all arse about.


RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - Syberpunk - 09-21-2019 05:52 AM

Islam is right about homosexuality.

Should be next.


RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - Days of Broken Arrows - 09-21-2019 06:35 AM

From the video: "Is it free speech or hate speech?"

The fact that this question is being asked without irony shows how off-course our country has gotten. People don't seem to understand that anything can qualify as hate speech. Once you've recognized hate speech as a concept, you're on your way to getting rid of free speech.

That said, I don't think most of the people in this video understood the irony in that sign. I just think they thought "Sign bad!" like they think "Red hat bad!" We're giving them too much credit to assume they thought this through. Most Americans don't seem capable of complex thought anymore -- something exemplified by how dumbed-down popular entertainment had gotten.


RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - Samseau - 09-21-2019 07:50 AM

(09-21-2019 05:52 AM)Syberpunk Wrote:  Islam is right about homosexuality.

Should be next.

Exactly. This looks like a 4Chan pysop similar to "It's okay to be White."

Put the left's colition of discontents against each other. They all have extremely conflicting beliefs, making them confront each other is great.

This "Islam is right about women" pits women against Islam.

Muslims think, "These feminists are disgusting," and Women think, "I have rights Islam can't touch!!"

It keeps them from touching each other's causes. But yes, the smart muzzies and stupid feminists will continue to vote with each other anyways. This poster helps Normies see the hypocrisy.

Funny to see this stuff make the news though. Just shows how boring news is in Winchester...


RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - CynicalContrarian - 09-21-2019 07:56 AM

(09-21-2019 07:50 AM)Samseau Wrote:  ...Put the left's colition of discontents against each other...


A couple of mine :

Whenever a Jewish chick has an abortion.
Hitler smiles in his grave...


Climate change : "Consume less!"
Obese folk : actively over-consume.
Therefore, fat-shaming saves the planet...



RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - Leonard D Neubache - 09-21-2019 08:14 AM

(09-21-2019 06:35 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  From the video: "Is it free speech or hate speech?"

The fact that this question is being asked without irony shows how off-course our country has gotten. People don't seem to understand that anything can qualify as hate speech. Once you've recognized hate speech as a concept, you're on your way to getting rid of free speech.

That said, I don't think most of the people in this video understood the irony in that sign. I just think they thought "Sign bad!" like they think "Red hat bad!" We're giving them too much credit to assume they thought this through. Most Americans don't seem capable of complex thought anymore -- something exemplified by how dumbed-down popular entertainment had gotten.

A sizable percentage of the population these days are so timid and automaton that an A4 piece of paper with any message whatsoever on it duct taped to any public surface is enough to trigger their "call the authorities" response.

Ironically if you spent a few grand and made movie-poster sized messages with stylish font and colorful backgrounds that look like they were produced by a company then nobody would even look at them twice.

The immediate trigger for many drones coming across this message is that they can instantly tell it was put there by someone without the social authority to express themselves publicly. Either the authority of the state or the authority of wealth.


RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - questor70 - 09-21-2019 10:58 AM

SJWs tend to see the world more in terms of power dynamics than actual good and evil.

Any group that has a power advantage over another group is deemed an oppressor even if the group being oppressed harbors despicable attitudes and commits evil acts. You see this most dramatically with the Palestinians and Israelis like that idiot woman who went over there and got herself run over by a tractor. There are even extreme liberals who literally make apologies for violence. These people are no better than fascists on the other extreme who make apologies for genocide.

The sympathy is extended in almost knee-jerk fashion to underdogs regardless of how these groups lead their lives. And in the name of avoiding prejudice, these groups are given way too much benefit of the doubt. Since many ethnic groups in the past were unfairly maligned, they naively assume every group is equally virtuous and benign to society. That's just how it is. It's a very simplistic view of the world.


RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - Foolsgo1d - 09-21-2019 12:41 PM

(09-20-2019 06:34 PM)scorpion Wrote:  I've written before about how leftists and Muslims both view each other as useful idiots. It's not like liberals don't understand that what Islam teaches conflicts with their values. They just choose to ignore it because Islam is a useful weapon against their most hated enemy - the white, Christian male. Leftists believe that Muslims will drop their religious values over time and convert to the religion of globohomo. Muslims (at least the ones liberals talk to) are happy to play along with the leftist fantasy of multicultural tolerance for the time being. They know their day is coming and the demographics on their side, especially in Europe.

Like Starship Troopers, "its a question of numbers, they have more." Laugh


RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - Handsome Creepy Eel - 09-21-2019 01:34 PM

Can we do "Kids can choose their own sexuality" next?


RE: "Islam is right about women" signs posted in Boston cause mass confusion - Days of Broken Arrows - 09-21-2019 02:34 PM

(09-21-2019 08:14 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  
(09-21-2019 06:35 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  From the video: "Is it free speech or hate speech?"

The fact that this question is being asked without irony shows how off-course our country has gotten. People don't seem to understand that anything can qualify as hate speech. Once you've recognized hate speech as a concept, you're on your way to getting rid of free speech.

That said, I don't think most of the people in this video understood the irony in that sign. I just think they thought "Sign bad!" like they think "Red hat bad!" We're giving them too much credit to assume they thought this through. Most Americans don't seem capable of complex thought anymore -- something exemplified by how dumbed-down popular entertainment had gotten.

A sizable percentage of the population these days are so timid and automaton that an A4 piece of paper with any message whatsoever on it duct taped to any public surface is enough to trigger their "call the authorities" response.

Ironically if you spent a few grand and made movie-poster sized messages with stylish font and colorful backgrounds that look like they were produced by a company then nobody would even look at them twice.

The immediate trigger for many drones coming across this message is that they can instantly tell it was put there by someone without the social authority to express themselves publicly. Either the authority of the state or the authority of wealth.

Have you ever heard No Trend's "Teen Love" -- an indie punk cult classic from 1983? Your comment reminds me of some of the lyrics:

"They could act "really mad", "happy" or even "sad"
According to the current pre-fabricated social circumstances
They had copied all aspects of their behavior
From what they'd observed in society
At the school dance, they were careful to exhibit
Only behavior which had been approved by their peer group...

They were killed in an auto wreck while driving to and fro
After drinking two beers, he was pretending to be "drunk."
While the local popular radio station
Played the newest pre-designated, youth-oriented "top-forty hits..."