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NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - Oz. - 11-22-2019 12:33 PM

The nofap movement is currently under attack by Dr. Nicole Prause

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Prause





and possible the entire porn industry which is funneling her research institute, Liberos LLC.

Below is a video giving a rough explanation to the situation and also a link to an in depth view of the situation, provided by yourbrainonporn.com





https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/relevant-research-and-articles-about-the-studies/critiques-of-questionable-debunking-propaganda-pieces/nofap-founder-alexander-rhodes-defamation-lawsuit-against-nicole-prause-liberos/

They just want us to fap to other people having sex on a screen forever, no harm done.


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - questor70 - 11-22-2019 12:37 PM

Women should never school men on their sexuality, period. It's fem-splaining.


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - Donfitz007 - 11-22-2019 01:07 PM

Feminist
Porn industry
Prostitutes
E thots
Cam girls
Strippers/strip clubs
sex shops
Dating sites
Every girl with a “only fans” or “private snap”
All the girls selling nudes on dating sites
Every woman who wants to dress skimpy #freethenipple

This affects all of them, nofap might be a joke to some but to many it’s not only the means of bettering ones life but a means to take back their sexuality. Done right nofap has the opportunity to rebalance the dating field.

However rebalancing the dating field brings a massive loss of money to many many companies. Even looking at the big picture, nofap often leads to a complete dopamine fixing overhaul where people give up social media, mindless internet surfing, fast foods, etc etc. this can be terrifying to any smart CEO. No but November is a meme, it’s a funny meme but each year more and more people attempt it, more and more people complete it and more and more people enjoy it. This can lead to massive problems.



But maybe I’m tired and looking too deep into this.


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - Days of Broken Arrows - 11-22-2019 01:14 PM

1). When women talk about sex it's not about sex. It's about sexualizing themselves. All I get from her video is "Look at me! I'm hottt and talking about sex." Paris Hilton had more credibility because at least she was honest about what she was up to.

2). Anytime you're supposed to call someone "doctor" and they don't have an "M.D." after their name, there is trouble ahead. She is a Ph.D., not an M.D. Getting an M.D. means you've mastered biological knowledge. Getting a Ph.D. means you've conformed to higher education's political directives. It's one of the biggest farces of our time that we're supposed to call know-nothing college profs and high school principals "doctor."

All that said, I say we stop the "no fap" threads on this forum. There is a homoerotic subtext to them that makes me uncomfortable. I don't want to know what other guys do sexually, and I don't want them knowing about me. In the old days, men didn't talk about this. I want to go back to the old days.


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - d'Aversa - 11-22-2019 01:18 PM

The TED video has its comments turned off. I wonder why.


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - Syberpunk - 11-22-2019 02:12 PM

Every language, wherever you go on the planet has a version of "wanker" as an insult for a reason.

Also:

What a wanker.


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - debeguiled - 11-22-2019 02:56 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if there is some sort of coordinated agenda behind this, and we are going to start seeing this sort of thing from many commentators, talking heads, experts.

It is pretty obvious that, as E. Michael Jones has proven pretty conclusively, sexual liberation is just a form of social control.

There are many powerful parties that want you obsessed by sex and masturbating all the time because it makes you weak, docile, ineffective, and an excellent consumer of not only porn and other sexual content, but all the products that use sex to sell things to you.

Dudes that spend less time fantasizing and whacking it suddenly have a lot more energy and time on their hands, and their minds are clearer too, and if you are an elite looking to control society, this is troubling.

Check this one out. Rolling Stone is trying to connect No Fap and the Coomer meme to white supremacy.

If that isn't a red flag of an an agenda. . .

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/coomer-meme-no-nut-november-nofap-908676/

Quote:Yet it would be naive to ignore that there’s significant overlap between the general ideology behind NoFap — and, to a degree, No Nut November — and that of the far right, which has increasingly coopted the principles of masturbation abstinence. Because the challenge is associated with abstaining from porn, some people associated with the movement have taken the extra step of harassing adult performers on social media, giving it an additional layer of troubling implications.

Quote:A new meme brings these implications into sharp relief. Coomer is a reference to a meme of an unkempt, skeezy-looking bearded man in a white tank top with vaguely Semitic features, accompanied by descriptive text like “doesn’t even know anything about politics,” “extremely aesthetic right arm (huge muscle),” and “has never heard of NoFap.”


Quote:But the implication is clear: masturbating is an urge that should be resisted at all costs. David Ley, PhD, a clinical psychologist and sex therapist who studies pornography and mental health, saw the meme after he tweeted his criticism of No Nut November, referring to it as “a creepy little smorgasbord of insecurity-driven hate with anti-Semitism, misogyny, and homophobia all rolled up in one,” he tells Rolling Stone.

Quote:The Proud Boys, for instance, a far-right extremist group known for its propensity toward violence, has long advocated for its members to abstain from masturbation on the grounds that it boosts testosterone and makes them more appealing to women; indeed, founder Gavin McInnes gave a shoutout to NoFap in a 2015 article for the far-right publication Taki’s Magazine. (The organizers of NoFap have strongly refuted any connection to the Proud Boys.)

Might as well stop there. You could literally quote the whole article. They cover all the bases.

Keeping your hands to yourself is clearly the ultimate evil.

Got to give them credit for turning the coomer into a Jew. Never would have thought of that.


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - MichaelWitcoff - 11-22-2019 03:02 PM

I do not despise Dr. Nicole, Mandrake, but I do deny her my essence.


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - Easy_C - 11-22-2019 03:19 PM

[Image: sons-of-anarchy___i_accept_that.jpg]

The original Coomer


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - RoastBeefCurtains4Me - 11-22-2019 03:24 PM

(11-22-2019 01:14 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  1). When women talk about sex it's not about sex. It's about sexualizing themselves. All I get from her video is "Look at me! I'm hottt and talking about sex." Paris Hilton had more credibility because at least she was honest about what she was up to.

2). Anytime you're supposed to call someone "doctor" and they don't have an "M.D." after their name, there is trouble ahead. She is a Ph.D., not an M.D. Getting an M.D. means you've mastered biological knowledge. Getting a Ph.D. means you've conformed to higher education's political directives. It's one of the biggest farces of our time that we're supposed to call know-nothing college profs and high school principals "doctor."

All that said, I say we stop the "no fap" threads on this forum. There is a homoerotic subtext to them that makes me uncomfortable. I don't want to know what other guys do sexually, and I don't want them knowing about me. In the old days, men didn't talk about this. I want to go back to the old days.

Yeah, everybody always posts when they jacked off. That's a bit Gay

While I'm at it, I've always had a problem with that freedom boner gif too. Confused


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - d'Aversa - 11-22-2019 03:30 PM

(11-22-2019 02:56 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  
Quote:But the implication is clear: masturbating is an urge that should be resisted at all costs. David Ley, PhD, a clinical psychologist and sex therapist who studies pornography and mental health, saw the meme after he tweeted his criticism of No Nut November, referring to it as “a creepy little smorgasbord of insecurity-driven hate with anti-Semitism, misogyny, and homophobia all rolled up in one,” he tells Rolling Stone.

But why would not masturbating be antisemitic? It's almost like they... no, it's impossible, has to be a conspiracy theory.


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - Enoch - 11-22-2019 03:46 PM

1969 - man lands on the moon.

2019 - semen retention is anti-semetic.


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - MichaelWitcoff - 11-22-2019 03:56 PM

(11-22-2019 03:30 PM)dAversa Wrote:  
(11-22-2019 02:56 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  
Quote:But the implication is clear: masturbating is an urge that should be resisted at all costs. David Ley, PhD, a clinical psychologist and sex therapist who studies pornography and mental health, saw the meme after he tweeted his criticism of No Nut November, referring to it as “a creepy little smorgasbord of insecurity-driven hate with anti-Semitism, misogyny, and homophobia all rolled up in one,” he tells Rolling Stone.

But why would not masturbating be antisemitic? It's almost like they... no, it's impossible, has to be a conspiracy theory.

Daily reminder that pornography is illegal in Israel.


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - Samseau - 11-22-2019 04:12 PM

I've always found it absurd that going out and buying a whore is illegal, yet watching whores have sex is free and available to all. I can pay whores to have sex with each other, but not with anyone who isn't a whore? Why would it make any difference?

Either make whoring legal or ban all forms of whoring, including online porn.

"He who lusts with his eyes has committed adultery in his heart." - Jesus Christ

Likewise, "He who lusts after porn whores has committed whoring in his heart."


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - robreke - 11-22-2019 05:15 PM

(11-22-2019 03:46 PM)Enoch Wrote:  1969 - man lands on the moon.

2019 - semen retention is anti-semetic.

So is not watching porn


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - Vladimir Poontang - 11-22-2019 07:55 PM

(11-22-2019 01:14 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  I say we stop the "no fap" threads on this forum. There is a homoerotic subtext to them that makes me uncomfortable.

With that sort of comment you're going to drive away the gay lurkers. Is that what you want?

Well, ITH IT?


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - Tactician - 11-23-2019 12:23 AM

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Would Not Fap


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - TigOlBitties - 11-23-2019 12:47 AM

She, or it, looks like a tranny. It will soon identify as Nick instead of Nicole.


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - Athanasius - 11-23-2019 02:14 AM

(11-22-2019 01:14 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  1). When women talk about sex it's not about sex. It's about sexualizing themselves. All I get from her video is "Look at me! I'm hottt and talking about sex." Paris Hilton had more credibility because at least she was honest about what she was up to.

2). Anytime you're supposed to call someone "doctor" and they don't have an "M.D." after their name, there is trouble ahead. She is a Ph.D., not an M.D. Getting an M.D. means you've mastered biological knowledge. Getting a Ph.D. means you've conformed to higher education's political directives. It's one of the biggest farces of our time that we're supposed to call know-nothing college profs and high school principals "doctor."

All that said, I say we stop the "no fap" threads on this forum. There is a homoerotic subtext to them that makes me uncomfortable. I don't want to know what other guys do sexually, and I don't want them knowing about me. In the old days, men didn't talk about this. I want to go back to the old days.

All good points. Maybe a running Porn Sucks thread or something like that would be better. News stories, stats, etc. that encourage men (me included) to avoid the thought of it. The fact that this stuff turns men into docile, retreating sheep more accepting of degeneracy, and thus fodder for the elites... this kind of thing isn't stressed in many places. It's a powerful encouragement to walk the line.


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - Athanasius - 11-23-2019 02:23 AM

(11-22-2019 02:56 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  There are many powerful parties that want you obsessed by sex and masturbating all the time because it makes you weak, docile, ineffective, and an excellent consumer of not only porn and other sexual content, but all the products that use sex to sell things to you.

"There are people who want to keep our sex instinct inflamed in order to make money out of us. Because, of course, a man with an obsession is a man who has very little sales-resistance." C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

EDIT: That TED presentation is awful. Figures the lady was involved with the Kinsey Institute. That group has a long, degenerate history (thanks Rockefeller). TED is the training organ for the elites, in all their pretentious glory.


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - N°6 - 11-23-2019 02:38 AM

(11-23-2019 02:23 AM)Athanasius Wrote:  
(11-22-2019 02:56 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  There are many powerful parties that want you obsessed by sex and masturbating all the time because it makes you weak, docile, ineffective, and an excellent consumer of not only porn and other sexual content, but all the products that use sex to sell things to you.

"There are people who want to keep our sex instinct inflamed in order to make money out of us. Because, of course, a man with an obsession is a man who has very little sales-resistance." C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

Incredible quote.

I’ve swallowed a red pill through this topic.

In matrix terms, where is men’s creative potency and money (unit of work done) flowing too?

Porn seems to be the Soma of the Brave New (Clown) World and the role of men seems to be becoming the sexless worker drone.


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - MichaelWitcoff - 11-23-2019 04:27 AM

(11-23-2019 02:23 AM)Athanasius Wrote:  
(11-22-2019 02:56 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  There are many powerful parties that want you obsessed by sex and masturbating all the time because it makes you weak, docile, ineffective, and an excellent consumer of not only porn and other sexual content, but all the products that use sex to sell things to you.

"There are people who want to keep our sex instinct inflamed in order to make money out of us. Because, of course, a man with an obsession is a man who has very little sales-resistance." C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

EDIT: That TED presentation is awful. Figures the lady was involved with the Kinsey Institute. That group has a long, degenerate history (thanks Rockefeller). TED is the training organ for the elites, in all their pretentious glory.

I dunno man, I learned a lot from this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTJn_DBTnrY


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - Vladimir Poontang - 11-23-2019 05:42 AM

(11-22-2019 04:12 PM)Samseau Wrote:  "He who lusts with his eyes has committed adultery in his heart." - Jesus Christ

Likewise, "He who lusts after porn whores has committed whoring in his heart."

I don't think He meant that you can't feel something when you look at a woman. That would be impossible to avoid. I'm sure He must have meant don't plan to act on it. I think it's fine to look at a woman and be turned on, and I think it's fine to go out of your way to look at a woman to admire her. Life is hard enough as it is without having to constantly fight against the strongest urge.


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - CynicalContrarian - 11-23-2019 05:46 AM

If a guy masturbates on a train or in public. There is a problem.

Now.
If guys do not masturbate in the privacy of their own homes. That is a problem too...? Rolleyes


RE: NoFap Under Attack By Harpy - MichaelWitcoff - 11-23-2019 06:10 AM

(11-23-2019 05:42 AM)Vladimir Poontang Wrote:  
(11-22-2019 04:12 PM)Samseau Wrote:  "He who lusts with his eyes has committed adultery in his heart." - Jesus Christ

Likewise, "He who lusts after porn whores has committed whoring in his heart."

I don't think He meant that you can't feel something when you look at a woman. That would be impossible to avoid. I'm sure He must have meant don't plan to act on it. I think it's fine to look at a woman and be turned on, and I think it's fine to go out of your way to look at a woman to admire her. Life is hard enough as it is without having to constantly fight against the strongest urge.

Well, that verse "he who looks at a woman with lust" uses an ambiguous word for "woman" that also means "wife." So I think it's likely He was reiterating the commandment against adultery, saying that it's still adultery if you're sinning with another man's wife in your mind, rather than saying that feeling sexual desire towards an unmarried woman is wrong somehow. After all, there would be no reason to pursue or marry her if you didn't feel anything and the Biblical "Song of Solomon" is not exactly G-rated.