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What exactly is conservative with Tories? - Oscar Henri - 12-13-2019 11:10 AM

Media still calls Tories "conservative". What exactly is conservative with them?

I mean, Boris Johnson is pro-3rd world immigration

RE: What exactly is conservative with Tories? - gework - 12-13-2019 11:38 AM


There is a group called The Cornerstone Group within the conservative party. It is the conservative party inside a liberal, center-left party. It has 20 members, maybe 7-8% of the party and I'm not sure how many of them are actually conservative first, rather than being something like free market first.

RE: What exactly is conservative with Tories? - Yatagan - 12-13-2019 11:48 AM

It helps to understand that "conservatives"(on both sides of the pond) have no ideology and just amount to posturing. It essentially amounts to liberalism with a sense of incrementalism, ie driving off a cliff at 50 mph with them vs 100 with the proper left.

RE: What exactly is conservative with Tories? - Rush87 - 12-13-2019 12:09 PM

They're full steam globalists. The only win in real terms that we get are unhappy Liberals. That's about it.

RE: What exactly is conservative with Tories? - Simeon_Strangelight - 12-14-2019 12:12 PM

It does not matter that they are not conservatives. It's just amazing that districts voted for the Conservatives the first time for 100 years. Labour gone full SJW cuckoo.

The Tories are not your friends, but Labour is your pure enemy.

RE: What exactly is conservative with Tories? - mr-ed209 - 12-14-2019 04:13 PM

Ever since the land slide Blair victory of the late 90s, UK politics had to stear along way left to accommodate many of the changes brought in by that labour government. Many of which have been irreversible to the point that many third parties agree it would be politically impossible to balance the level of government spending new labour introduced.

The conservative party benefits from having some many 'old money' politicians in its ranks, Borris being one of them. In the run up to the election many of the left wing papers were publishing old quotes Borris had made in his journalism days. Comments alluding to the link between high IQ with prosperity as well as the importance of marriage as an institution. The exact things that many centre right voters want; however the out of touch liberal in the media in the UK thought it was suitable enough as slander. The result last week is a reflection of how out of touch left wing papers and the BBC have become in the UK. My home town constituency in the north east swung from labour to cons for the first time in it's history; having traditionally been a working class base for manufacturing.

I personally think this is the beginning of the end of the left wing movement that has existed in the UK since the millennium. A lot of damage has been done already to that millennial generation that went through it. It's probably all bit too little too late, but for anyone with a brain this seemed inevitable.