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Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - The Lesser Evil - 11-17-2011 01:11 PM

Best album, DVD's, Bass tabs books, etc. Show me some love and educate me.


RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - amistod - 11-18-2011 11:31 AM

I haven't listened in a long time. They are amazing live. I would probably say the middle years were the best. Aenema / 10k days..

They are pretty epic albums, especially 10k days. You have to listen to the entire thing.


RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - The Lesser Evil - 11-18-2011 11:37 AM

(11-18-2011 11:31 AM)amistod Wrote:  They are pretty epic albums, especially 10k days. You have to listen to the entire thing.

Is it a concept album?


RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - Nonpareil - 11-18-2011 11:47 AM

I jump between Lateralus and Aenima for favorite album. Pick those two up before anything else.

They aren't for everyone though; they have a very heavy, layered sound, the type of sound you need to listen to over and over again to get it. What I like is that you can hear a song a thousand times, and then notice something you never did before.


RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - Amour Fou - 11-18-2011 07:46 PM

By far my favourite band!

I had the great opportunity of seeing them live in Paris back in 2006, I got very emotional, one of the peak experiences in my life (Paris- my favourite city in the world, Tool- my favourite band in the world).

There are so many things to say I don't even know how to start...

Are you a bass player? I am, and very influenced by Justin Chancellor.

He, like myself, is deep into effect pedals and with a style of playing that values not only the deep notes, but the high ones as well.

Although he uses many, many effects (something like 12 pedals) the core of his style is a bass whammy pedal. A bass whammy (a whammy pedal) is a pedal that octaves your instrument, meaning that when you use it, your notes are automatically transposed an octave higher or more. I prefer Electro Harmonix's HOG (harmonic octave generator) for the same effect, a much more versatile pedal with the same functions.

The thing about listening to Tool and the bass is that most of the time what you are listening to is the bass, but you can't even tell, as it is so filtered through many effects.

Tool is also known for exploring different and complex time signatures and song structures. 5/4, 9/8, 7/4 are few examples of time signatures that on occasion can be found even within a same song.

Tool started out in the early 90's. They always had a fling with deep spiritual themes, clever humour and even some substance abuse.

I am completely facinated by the way they blend music, visual sand profound spiritual thematics and references in such a harmonic way... I constantly return to some song lyrics for inspiration. Example: "Overthinking, overanalysing separates the body from the mind". Pure zen.

Lateralus has been my favourite album head on for 10 years now. It is profound not only sonically and visually, but thematically. It has been with me in various moments of my life, and in my opinion it still seems their most mature work.

Second to that, Aenima. It is when their current (and astonishing) bass player joined them, adding a lot to the twist. It is an aggressive album where they start to add more of the spiritual themes, reference to acid trips (a recurrent theme) and deep social criticism (the song Aenima as an example). They make homage to former stand up comedian and friend Bill Hicks, an incrediblly underated genius who died at the young age of 33. He was a deep mystic as well, and very much into acid. Insanely clever, deep and humorous. The good die young... Also, as many other of their albums, there are subliminal hidden messages. What strikes me particularly about this one is that there is a moment on the Stinkfist track that Maynard says very low IN PORTUGUESE (so I can understand it) "suck my cock". Maynard practiced Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for some years, and he might have learned a few "practical" sentences. Stinkfist track is also an example where they use humorous/polemic topics (as fisting) to convey a deeper metaphorical/spiritual message, in this case fisting as a metaphor for the numbness and lack of spiritual insight that contemporary man faces, making them go to "extremes" to actually feel something... fisting... hehe.

10000 days ranks as my third favourite. It is named as a reference to Maynard's (the singer) mother, who passed away while they were producing the album. She sufferend an accident and had a paralysis of sorts, making her be stuck in bed for something like 28 years (10000 days) before she died. The main and longest song in the album (10000 days) is a homage to her, and implicitly a coming to terms of the singer with his mother's christian spirituality and her passing away (she saw her accident and poor state as a gift from God, and accepted it that way; her soon was frustrated for many years by her position). Great album overall, but maybe not as catchy as the others.

Undertow, Tool's "first" album (they had the Opiate ep before this one, I'll mention it later) shows a more raw and aggressive Tool sound. I like it a lot, but I prefer their more intricate and tripier later albums. Maynard's voice is rawer and less "sculpted" on this album, which gives a somewhat different vibe. All of Tool albums have something tricky going on their cover art. All of them. Aenima's cover moves as you move the album package, Lateralus' cover art comes in semi transparent layers and 10000 days comes with an in built goggle so you can see the album art in 3D. The thing about Undertow's album art is trickier to spot, but there it is. When you open the cd box, you find the place where the cd is stuck. You have to pull that side of where the cd stays off (you might have to break it) and you'll see a hidden drawing behind it of a cow linking its own genitals (I had the cd FOR YEARS before I found this out!)

Finally, Tool's first EP, Opiate, shows early Tool with their rawer, even grundge-ish sound. Also quite good (I am biased) but I prefer the later ones.

There is so much more I could tell!

I just have to point out Maynard's two other projects.

-A Perfect Circle. Great as well. Not as heavy and brainy as Tool, but very powerful and maybe more emotional. Beautiful.

-Puscifer (said- "pussy fur"). Maynard's trip hop/ eletronica album. I don't seem to be able to get into it, sadly. I don't quite like it.

I could go on, but I guess this is enough!


RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - Amour Fou - 11-18-2011 07:50 PM

Favourite song:





Favourite video:





Favourite lyrics:





...And some Bill Hicks knowledge:






RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - Deluge - 11-19-2011 02:19 AM

Lateralus and Aenima are undoubtedly their best albums. Amour Fou's video would give a great idea of what they sound like, those three songs are definitely their best as well. Somebody once described Tool as a heavy metal Pink Floyd. There sort of on the right track, their very very heavy and very experimental.


RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - Farmageddon - 11-19-2011 12:16 PM

The band name is a perfect description of the type of person who enjoys their music. IMHO.


RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - The Lesser Evil - 11-19-2011 03:16 PM

(11-18-2011 07:46 PM)Amour Fou Wrote:  By far my favourite band!

Are you a bass player? I am, and very influenced by Justin Chancellor.

I used to dabble. Not much anymore.


RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - Chad Daring - 11-19-2011 03:20 PM

(11-19-2011 12:16 PM)Farmageddon Wrote:  The band name is a perfect description of the type of person who enjoys their music. IMHO.

Troll

I dont like the band Tool, but unconstructive shit like this has no purpose on this forum.


RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - FretDancer - 11-20-2011 08:57 PM

(11-19-2011 12:16 PM)Farmageddon Wrote:  The band name is a perfect description of the type of person who enjoys their music. IMHO.

Dude fuck you, this is no place for that attidude, get the fuck out of here.




Tool is an amazing bad, so much composition and lyric prowess, not to mention instrument wise and imagination wise as well.

I hope I get the opportunity to go listen to them live someday.

My favorite albums are definitely Lateralus and 10,000 Days.

If you are a good Tool fan, check out A Perfect Circle which has Maynard on lyrics and vocals, great band as well!


RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - The Lesser Evil - 11-22-2011 10:09 AM

(11-18-2011 07:46 PM)Amour Fou Wrote:  By far my favourite band!

I had the great opportunity of seeing them live in Paris back in 2006, I got very emotional, one of the peak experiences in my life (Paris- my favourite city in the world, Tool- my favourite band in the world).

There are so many things to say I don't even know how to start...

Are you a bass player? I am, and very influenced by Justin Chancellor.

He, like myself, is deep into effect pedals and with a style of playing that values not only the deep notes, but the high ones as well.

Although he uses many, many effects (something like 12 pedals) the core of his style is a bass whammy pedal. A bass whammy (a whammy pedal) is a pedal that octaves your instrument, meaning that when you use it, your notes are automatically transposed an octave higher or more. I prefer Electro Harmonix's HOG (harmonic octave generator) for the same effect, a much more versatile pedal with the same functions.

The thing about listening to Tool and the bass is that most of the time what you are listening to is the bass, but you can't even tell, as it is so filtered through many effects.

Tool is also known for exploring different and complex time signatures and song structures. 5/4, 9/8, 7/4 are few examples of time signatures that on occasion can be found even within a same song.

Tool started out in the early 90's. They always had a fling with deep spiritual themes, clever humour and even some substance abuse.

I am completely facinated by the way they blend music, visual sand profound spiritual thematics and references in such a harmonic way... I constantly return to some song lyrics for inspiration. Example: "Overthinking, overanalysing separates the body from the mind". Pure zen.

Lateralus has been my favourite album head on for 10 years now. It is profound not only sonically and visually, but thematically. It has been with me in various moments of my life, and in my opinion it still seems their most mature work.

Second to that, Aenima. It is when their current (and astonishing) bass player joined them, adding a lot to the twist. It is an aggressive album where they start to add more of the spiritual themes, reference to acid trips (a recurrent theme) and deep social criticism (the song Aenima as an example). They make homage to former stand up comedian and friend Bill Hicks, an incrediblly underated genius who died at the young age of 33. He was a deep mystic as well, and very much into acid. Insanely clever, deep and humorous. The good die young... Also, as many other of their albums, there are subliminal hidden messages. What strikes me particularly about this one is that there is a moment on the Stinkfist track that Maynard says very low IN PORTUGUESE (so I can understand it) "suck my cock". Maynard practiced Brazilian Jiu Jitsu for some years, and he might have learned a few "practical" sentences. Stinkfist track is also an example where they use humorous/polemic topics (as fisting) to convey a deeper metaphorical/spiritual message, in this case fisting as a metaphor for the numbness and lack of spiritual insight that contemporary man faces, making them go to "extremes" to actually feel something... fisting... hehe.

10000 days ranks as my third favourite. It is named as a reference to Maynard's (the singer) mother, who passed away while they were producing the album. She sufferend an accident and had a paralysis of sorts, making her be stuck in bed for something like 28 years (10000 days) before she died. The main and longest song in the album (10000 days) is a homage to her, and implicitly a coming to terms of the singer with his mother's christian spirituality and her passing away (she saw her accident and poor state as a gift from God, and accepted it that way; her soon was frustrated for many years by her position). Great album overall, but maybe not as catchy as the others.

Undertow, Tool's "first" album (they had the Opiate ep before this one, I'll mention it later) shows a more raw and aggressive Tool sound. I like it a lot, but I prefer their more intricate and tripier later albums. Maynard's voice is rawer and less "sculpted" on this album, which gives a somewhat different vibe. All of Tool albums have something tricky going on their cover art. All of them. Aenima's cover moves as you move the album package, Lateralus' cover art comes in semi transparent layers and 10000 days comes with an in built goggle so you can see the album art in 3D. The thing about Undertow's album art is trickier to spot, but there it is. When you open the cd box, you find the place where the cd is stuck. You have to pull that side of where the cd stays off (you might have to break it) and you'll see a hidden drawing behind it of a cow linking its own genitals (I had the cd FOR YEARS before I found this out!)

Finally, Tool's first EP, Opiate, shows early Tool with their rawer, even grundge-ish sound. Also quite good (I am biased) but I prefer the later ones.

There is so much more I could tell!

I just have to point out Maynard's two other projects.

-A Perfect Circle. Great as well. Not as heavy and brainy as Tool, but very powerful and maybe more emotional. Beautiful.

-Puscifer (said- "pussy fur"). Maynard's trip hop/ eletronica album. I don't seem to be able to get into it, sadly. I don't quite like it.

I could go on, but I guess this is enough!

This was a really good post, thanks.


RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - Vars - 12-30-2019 06:43 PM

Can someone write more about Tool's lyrics? what is their outlook?
I ve seen vocalist was involved in some anti-nazi band and social justice charity, how does it affect their lyrics?


RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - CynicalContrarian - 12-30-2019 07:41 PM

(12-30-2019 06:43 PM)Vars Wrote:  Can someone write more about Tool's lyrics? what is their outlook?
I ve seen vocalist was involved in some anti-nazi band and social justice charity, how does it affect their lyrics?


While I would never claim there is anything necessarily noble or righteous about Tool.
You don't make it in Hollowood for 'righteous' reasons...

As for the song themes specifically.
Some are rather introspective. 'Invincible' for eg. -
"Beating tired bones,
Tripping through remember when,
Once invincible,
Now the armor's wearing thin
."

Some lyrics center on social commentary. 'Vicarious' -
"Eye on the TV, 'cause tragedy thrills me,"
...
"Vicariously, I live while the whole world dies,
You all need it too, don't lie
."

Right In Two -
"Angels on the sideline,
Baffled and confused,
Father blessed them all with reason,
And this is what they choose?
"

Some lyrics center on their own experience. Such as their disdain for Hollowood / LA in "Aenema" -
"Of freaks here in this hopeless fucking hole we call L.A.,
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away,
Any fucking time, any fucking day,
Learn to swim, see you down in Arizona Bay
."

Certain songs are more esoteric as it were. 'Parabola' -
"This body, this body holding me,
Be my reminder here that I am not alone in,
This body, this body holding me,
Feeling eternal, all this pain is an illusion
."

Forty Six & Two -
"Stepping through my shadow,
Coming out the other side,
Step into the shadow,
Forty six and two are just ahead of me
."

Some songs are very personal. Such as 10,000 Days & Wings Of Marie, which deals with the death of Maynard's mother post cancer -
"Should you see your maker's face tonight,
Look him in the eye, look him in the eye, and tell him,
"I never lived a lie, never took a life, but surely saved one,
Hallelujah, it's time for you to bring me home
."

So a mix of esoteric, personal, social commentary & semi-religious lyrics.
All from a band that made it big via Hollowood. While never shunned by Hollowood either.


RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - 911 - 12-30-2019 09:21 PM

(12-30-2019 07:41 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  
(12-30-2019 06:43 PM)Vars Wrote:  Can someone write more about Tool's lyrics? what is their outlook?
I ve seen vocalist was involved in some anti-nazi band and social justice charity, how does it affect their lyrics?


While I would never claim there is anything necessarily noble or righteous about Tool.
You don't make it in Hollowood for 'righteous' reasons...

As for the song themes specifically.
Some are rather introspective. 'Invincible' for eg. -
"Beating tired bones,
Tripping through remember when,
Once invincible,
Now the armor's wearing thin
."

Some lyrics center on social commentary. 'Vicarious' -
"Eye on the TV, 'cause tragedy thrills me,"
...
"Vicariously, I live while the whole world dies,
You all need it too, don't lie
."

Right In Two -
"Angels on the sideline,
Baffled and confused,
Father blessed them all with reason,
And this is what they choose?
"

Some lyrics center on their own experience. Such as their disdain for Hollowood / LA in "Aenema" -
"Of freaks here in this hopeless fucking hole we call L.A.,
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away,
Any fucking time, any fucking day,
Learn to swim, see you down in Arizona Bay
."

Certain songs are more esoteric as it were. 'Parabola' -
"This body, this body holding me,
Be my reminder here that I am not alone in,
This body, this body holding me,
Feeling eternal, all this pain is an illusion
."

Forty Six & Two -
"Stepping through my shadow,
Coming out the other side,
Step into the shadow,
Forty six and two are just ahead of me
."

Some songs are very personal. Such as 10,000 Days & Wings Of Marie, which deals with the death of Maynard's mother post cancer -
"Should you see your maker's face tonight,
Look him in the eye, look him in the eye, and tell him,
"I never lived a lie, never took a life, but surely saved one,
Hallelujah, it's time for you to bring me home
."

So a mix of esoteric, personal, social commentary & semi-religious lyrics.
All from a band that made it big via Hollowood. While never shunned by Hollowood either.


Like many other popular musical acts (Led Zeppelin, Bowie, "Madonna" etc), Tool is a satanist band that debases its fans and feeds off their souls.

Most of you guys who are fans on this thread will not get it, that's to be expected, it's the spiritual cesspool that many people have bathed in for most of their lives. Most don't understand the nature of figures like Alistair Crowley, a satanist scumbag that Tool worships.






RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - Zevs - 12-30-2019 09:29 PM

If you are obsessed this much over a band, then sorry, there is something definitely wrong with you.


RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - ed pluribus unum - 12-31-2019 04:10 PM

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RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - WombRaider - 12-31-2019 04:59 PM

It's incel music.


RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - Oberrheiner - 01-01-2020 09:56 AM

(12-30-2019 09:21 PM)911 Wrote:  Like many other popular musical acts (Led Zeppelin, Bowie, "Madonna" etc), Tool is a satanist band that debases its fans and feeds off their souls.

Yeah.
Music is haram, never forget it.
Especially rock'n'roll.


RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - etwsake - 01-01-2020 10:01 AM

I've been a big fan of their music since Aenima. They've never topped that album.

Just listen to that album. If you like it, you like Tool. If not, it's not for you.

Their new album that came out over the summer is just mindless dicking around though. Complete waste of time.


RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - 911 - 01-01-2020 09:01 PM

(01-01-2020 09:56 AM)Oberrheiner Wrote:  
(12-30-2019 09:21 PM)911 Wrote:  Like many other popular musical acts (Led Zeppelin, Bowie, "Madonna" etc), Tool is a satanist band that debases its fans and feeds off their souls.

Yeah.
Music is haram, never forget it.
Especially rock'n'roll.

I'm not going to spend too much time getting you up to speed on the use of pop music as a potent social engineering tool, or the actual occult spirituality of pop idols, but in a few words, without the likes of Madonna and Bowie working the boomers and Xers, there are no slutwalks and trannie library hours one generation later.


RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - Oberrheiner - 01-02-2020 05:36 AM

I never listened to pop because it's just shit music, I have no interest in it.
I listened to metal most of my life however, so the kind of occult winks you see more and more in pop videos are simply a joke to me, that's weak sauce for the masses, same as their music really, lame artists trying to pass as edgy.

Yet all this didn't make me a satanist either - I just don't care really.
I have lived in a real christian country, unlike most people here just fantasizing about something they never knew coming back - didn't like it.
I see where this world is at and where it's going to - don't like that either.

Some people just don't care for fairytales - from either side, sorry.
Yet this satanic panic 2.0 is ridiculous.


RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - 911 - 01-02-2020 12:00 PM

"Satanic Panic" was an NLP term used to discredit large-scale satanist child traffic networks in the US. As you know those networks are also there in W. Europe, unless you think the Dutroux affair was also made up...

https://www.scriberrnews.com/2019/11/04/fbi-documents-expose-the-finders-an-80s-child-sex-cult-covered-up-by-the-u-s-intelligence-community/

Metal is pop, and it does shape the average listener to have anti-Christian beliefs, some adepts like Varg going as far as burning churches that their ancestors built.

Pop music and its icons, who have a lot of influence over their teenage audiences, have been a significant force in the social engineering of entire generations, from the Elvis era down on to the Cardi Bs of today.


RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - Oberrheiner - 01-02-2020 02:36 PM

(01-02-2020 12:00 PM)911 Wrote:  Metal is pop

Come on, you have to stop jumping the shark at some point Smile

Here satanic panic was a wave of hysteria in the religious communities in the 80s because teens were listening to judas priest and playing dungeons and dragons, it was not about pedo rings.
Now I tend to forget that things are always crazier stateside, but I have to admit that I don't know what happened there or what the conspiracy theories are either.

Pop influence, sure, it's huge.
What can I say .. sheeps need to be kept quiet, at all costs.
Otherwise they become too difficult to shear.
So as long as you'll have morons you'll have a market for moronic entertainment .. what did you do against that recently ? Smile


RE: Educate me on Tool (The Band, that is) - CynicalContrarian - 01-02-2020 05:08 PM

(01-02-2020 12:00 PM)911 Wrote:  ...
Metal is pop,...


Except you'll hardly ever hear good Metal played freely on radio.
It rarely is used in sound-tracks these days.
All the while, big name Metal bands can come & go here in Australia & never receive a lick of media coverage.

Yet Taylor Swift & Pink will receive plenty of personal coverage.

Yes overall, weak minded folk are susceptible to subversion & coercion.
Nothing new there & there is both overtly & covertly sinister aspects to the music industry as a whole (inc. Metal).

Yet for the rest of us.
Live in the World, yet do not be of the World...