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Day 1 again. Thought I could reward myself because I had stopped smoking about two months ago... It was a trap!

New goal is to achieve 31 days without ejaculating at all.

If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves.
03-21-2014 05:13 PM
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For those that give up fapping.

What are your dreams like? Do you see a big increase in sexy dreams?
03-21-2014 05:29 PM
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I think this is way harder than quitting drinking
03-21-2014 05:40 PM
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Interesting question. I used to almost never dream. Now I almost always dream, although most dreams are not sexual (except for when a wet dream is due in a day or two). They're just random - either interesting or scary. But when they're nice, they're really nice and I remember them well upon waking. Overall I sleep a lot better and get more rest from less time spent in bed.

Of course, this might also be due to the zinc I'm taking (30 mg capsule every two days).

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03-21-2014 05:40 PM
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My dreams are more sexual and in bed I tend to edge a little bit, which I know is bad.

I had a wet dream a few nights ago and it was pretty classic to be honest. I always laugh after it each time because it's such an odd thing for a young guy to get, and it actually feels pretty good so whatever.

@Cardguy: Girl masturbation is a weird one...I know a growing number of girls are watching porn and it's always obvious when you fuck them. They're way kinkier and say porn shit. It makes it more fun I guess.
03-21-2014 09:26 PM
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It is annoying when chicks say shit from porn. Since most guys find the shit said during porn to be annoying and a distraction.

Indeed - most porn I watch with the sound off.

I hope chicks start to realise how dumb it sounds when they say this shit.
03-22-2014 05:41 AM
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Quote:For those that give up fapping.

What are your dreams like? Do you see a big increase in sexy dreams?

Only had four wet dreams in my life to this day. I got them when I didn't ejaculated for long enough. Like two weeks or so. Happened once for me on nofap

In my opinion you only get wet dreams when your body needs to get rid of the sperm.

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03-22-2014 08:45 AM
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Did anyone see Wolf of Wall Street? The scene where Matthew Mcconaughey's character says to Leo to whack it several times a day to deal with the stress of the job? I sort have always viewed masturbation this way, not as a weakness, but as our own internal release valve.
03-22-2014 09:25 AM
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393 days

I don't know what to do anymore. I last maybe 1 day without sex before I get itchy, and if I go past two days all hell breaks loose mentally.

The idea of fucking consumes my mind all the time. And even though I know objectively I should stop devoting so much time to it I can't. I'll grab tinder, I'll text girls I've banged already, and so on.

Yet after so long it's hard to just fire up some porn and jack off again. But how long should I go? Forever? Not possible.

Maybe I need to do it, to calm down a bit so I can focus on other things.

Sorry just thinking aloud here.
03-23-2014 02:07 PM
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^^ Props for lasting so long! Did you find the desire getting more intense after a certain period?

After the initial withdrawal crazy period, my "flatline" seemed to last forever. From 90-120 days it felt like my desire went down, if anything. Eventually cracked when I was tired and at 18 days now.

Also, do you have regulars or are you doing hit and run?

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03-24-2014 03:14 AM
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I fancy doing something different this week.

Last jerked off (quite a bit actually) on Sunday.

Gonna' see if I can go without for the rest of the week. Just so I can get a feel for how different it makes me feel.

Seems strange I have never done a little experiment like this before.
03-24-2014 07:20 AM
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(03-24-2014 03:14 AM)dreambig Wrote:  ^^ Props for lasting so long! Did you find the desire getting more intense after a certain period?

After the initial withdrawal crazy period, my "flatline" seemed to last forever. From 90-120 days it felt like my desire went down, if anything. Eventually cracked when I was tired and at 18 days now.

Also, do you have regulars or are you doing hit and run?

It picked up a lot this past winter. Not sure why but it did.

I have regulars, my style is more of one or two girls in a mini relationship, then hit and runs on the side.
03-24-2014 02:03 PM
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Good luck cardguy! If no ones jerked off this week yet, we should all try to put extra effort into this week and make this a clean week. Even just going one week will have mental effects that we can benefit from.

I had terrible urges last night, but didn't do anything. I've decided to quit porn first, and last night I just didn't have the arousal to jerk off to no porn. So here I am today, horny as fuck about to hit the gym.

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03-24-2014 04:12 PM
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Yeah - I know it is not a big challenge for most of you guys. But it will be a quite a big deal in my world.

I felt good earlier - and now my sex drive has suddenly dropped off. lol

I think it is because my brain is adjusting to junk food mentality of snacking on porn. I sense with porn the more you watch - the more you want to watch. As with junk food. Having said that - I jerked off quite a bit yesterday. And I'm 32 - so I'm sensing it takes me a day or two longer before it really bites again. Wednesday and Thursday should be interesting - lol.

I am not a member of a gym at the moment. But that would be an interesting factor to be playing with as well. Working out when you are horny is pretty fun. Although - it can be difficult since you tend to be extra horny when you get back. Still - it would be nice to have something else to focus on if things get difficult.

At the moment it is a breeze. But I know it won't be later in the week.

Last time I went without fapping for a few days (internet problems) I posted a comment in the 'Unpopular opinions' thread about how Miley Cyrus (before she went crazy) was one of the most beautiful women of all time. I still stand by that comment - but it is a taster of how obsessed I can get when I let the horny build up in me.

As long as I don't start posting about what nice eyes Roosh has! lol
03-24-2014 07:22 PM
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Also - in terms of this area. I think there are two main issues.

One is giving up fapping.

The other is allowing yourself to fap - but without the use of porn. I am not sure if images are allowed though.

The reason I mention this - is that as a teen I didn't have porn. Just images (from fashion catalogues, FHM - and - later - from dial-up internet connections).

And I sometimes wonder if even jerking it to an image is some how better than jerking it to porn. I am not sure what the key difference would be. Except perhaps - you physically have to be a lot hornier to find a single image sexy enough to jerk over. Versus a video clip - which can overwhelm the senses more and make up for any lack of horniness you have at that moment.

It is an interesting undercurrent to the topic. I wonder if others have thought about it much?
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Just grab a Dillards magazine. Should have no trouble getting off.
03-24-2014 08:10 PM
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What Cardguy says is right. It is a lot harder to jerk off with no aids (although still no problem at all if you're feeling normally horny). It's like a scale from lowest to highest arousal:

1. Nothing, just physical sensation
2. Softcore picture
3. Fantasy about a softcore picture (of an actual person)
4. Hardcore picture or a series of softcore pictures
5. Fantasy about a hardcore picture (of an actual person)
6. Series of hardcore pictures or fantasies; fantasy about sex with an actual person, not very detailed
7. Single porn video, old school (VHS)
8. Detailed fantasy about sex with an actual person or several of them
9. Modern porn video (online HD porn)
10. Series of modern porn videos, with constant switching and/or rewinding


What is interesting is that I started having my first bad symptoms (although not enough to cause me any significant worries) by doing #8 for several years (I was a late bloomer so it was my only outlet for almost 10 years). It's like I had been able to produce very detailed porn in my head before I had access to actual porn. I don't think anyone has ever developed problems from 7, 6, 5 or lower, and it really takes a huge amount of #8 to cause damage. Only when you get into #10 does the real death spiral begin.

I've gotten onboard nofap because I just have no moderation in this regard - at least not anymore. If I masturbate with just #1, even once every few days, I start getting cravings for more details. If I spend time looking at dozens of softcore pictures, it's only a matter of time before I give in and go back to #10 5 times a day. It's scary how fast your sense of restraint goes out of the window once you're aroused. Therefore, I'd rather skip all of it because I know where it leads. If I was still a kid and no such thing as internet porn existed, I'd just jerk off whenever I wanted and be no worse for it. But, alas.

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03-25-2014 11:33 AM
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I just started, guys. I will start with a 2 weeks no fap routine, building up to 3 weeks to end in 1 time a month. It already drives me crazy but I think the benefit is that I am now willing to get pussy more than ever, just to be able to shoot my load.
03-25-2014 03:31 PM
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(03-25-2014 11:33 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I don't think anyone has ever developed problems from 7, 6, 5 or lower, and it really takes a huge amount of #8 to cause damage. Only when you get into #10 does the real death spiral begin.

So jerking over girls you have banged will cause damage too? I occasionally have flashbacks of hot bitches from the past while I am sexing a new girl.

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03-25-2014 07:42 PM
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I was chatting to a girl at work (she is fat and I have zero interest in impressing her). I told her I was going to give up jerking it off for a week. I reminded her she was fat and that if I was friendlier to her than usual she shouldn't take it the wrong way.

Anyway - she is used to me teasing her. And then she told me she once went three years without sex (did I mention she was fat?).

I then asked her about masturbation - and she said she didn't do that either, during that time. She said it was different for women and they hadn't different requirements to men.

So with that in mind. Is this not further evidence that women basically have no sex drive? I don;t mean a low sex drive - I mean not at all. And yet this is the same girl I have heard bullshit in the past about how great the sex with her latest guy was.

I always know she is lying - since when the relationship ends (after about 3 weeks - did I mention she is fat?) she bands on about how bad they were in bed.

And she seems to hate mens obsession with sex (at least according to what she writes in her gay 'depression diary' that she keeps with her).

All in all - this adds up to a consistent pattern of behaviour. Women - particularly those that say otherwise - just don't like sex.

They like the attention that comes with being hot and having sex with a cool guy. But they don't like sex itself. They only put out to please the other guy - or because they want to pretend to themselves they like sex more than they do.

Women are very good at lying to themselves - hell isn't that what the hamster is all about?
03-25-2014 09:04 PM
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One thing about the no-fap thing.

It definitely encourages you to sleep more. Since as you drift off to sleep - you can mull over more dirty thoughts than when you are awake.

For a no-fapper - the period before drifting off into sleep is the closest they get to looking at porn all day.
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cardguy Wrote:They like the attention that comes with being hot and having sex with a cool guy. But they don't like sex itself. They only put out to please the other guy - or because they want to pretend to themselves they like sex more than they do.

Women are very good at lying to themselves - hell isn't that what the hamster is all about?

Very true. But who cares? I don't care whether a woman fucks me because she is horny, because she thinks I'm hot or because she thinks I'm a good provider. As long as she has at least some motivation to do it (no matter its source), all is fine.

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03-26-2014 03:13 AM
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No-fap observations.

Less appetite - could be good for those looking to lose weight.

Heavier (and bigger) balls. Maybe I should have expected this. But it was a little bit surprising. lol
03-26-2014 01:20 PM
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For those who have no-fapped for months and months.

Does the urge to fap ever go away - or is it always sitting there?

Or perhaps do you try and redirect that energy to doing more productive shit?

I kinda' feel like that right now. Like I could fap - or maybe just go for a run instead to burn off some nervous tension. It is not a bad state of mind to be in...
03-26-2014 03:17 PM
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cardguy it is very very strange. I have absolutely no desire physically or psychologically to fap anymore. However my sex drive is through the roof.
03-27-2014 07:34 AM
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