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I can tell the difference even after just a day. My aggression has certainly gone up and there were some really detailed dreams going on last night. Actually I feel a bit pumped, ready to take on the world, so far so good.

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So I did not fap for around 4 days And I was getting hard pretty quick.

I fapped And now my sex drive is low.

Also, went from 90mg of zinc to just 60.
07-31-2014 12:03 AM
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+5 Days

Although I joined the NoPorn/NoFap challenge yesterday officially, I'll backdate to the day I last fapped.

I've been a somewhat habitual masturbator, usually doing it on a daily basis or every other day.

It's definitely getting hard for me to concentrate on some daily tasks. For example, when I'm reading something, my mind wanders over to pussy. I'm also getting some random boners throughout the day even if sex isn't on my mind at the moment. Overall, I'm definitely have a lot of nervous sexual energy which I used to dissipate with masturbation. So far, exercise is one method with helping me deal with this pent up energy. I haven't been in a position to approach yet, but I'm trying to rekindle a relationship with an old fuck buddy.
07-31-2014 11:58 AM
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It looks like psychologists are finally getting interested in porn and its effects on the brain.

Source: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-...-comes-age
Quote:A recent study from University of Cambridge reports that porn may trigger compulsion in the brain of a sex addict much the way drugs and related paraphernalia triggers a drug addict. In a process called "incentive motivation," a now widely accepted theory of addiction, the drug addict is driven to consume narcotics not for pleasure, but to satisfy an uncontrollable feeling of desire. By correlating sex addiction with drug addiction, researchers have put to bed the long-standing argument that heavy use of porn is merely a sign of a "high sex drive." Far from it, says Dr. Valerie Voon, the study's main author. "There is no question [these people] are suffering," she explains. "They are unable to control their behaviors." Additionally, a recent German study published in the journal JAMA Psychiatry reported that as greater amounts of porn were consumed, the brain registered lower levels of “reward” in the striatum, causing “desensitization,” or simply put, numbness. More and more pornography was thus needed to return to the original high, echoing the drug addiction comparison made by Voon. Together, these studies mark a significant breakthrough for those who believe sex addiction had lagged behind other disorders in terms of public understanding, treatment options, and research funding.

The Cambridge study found on the whole that those who were sexually compulsive had used porn more often and earlier in their lives, as compared with their non-sexually addicted counterparts. And indeed, one of the most compelling findings was that younger patients were the most vulnerable to pornographic images, which stimulated their ventral striatum, the part of the brain that is responsible for reward-based decision-making. Although more data is needed, this suggests a relationship between high-risk behavior and porn consumption. By contrast, the ventral striatum in a healthy teen continues to grow and strengthen throughout adolescence and young adulthood, helping the individual to resist peer pressure and compulsive activities of all kinds. Ultimately this information can help psychologists and doctors to intervene earlier in the lives of the sexually compulsive, breaking the chains of addiction and bolstering the brain's innate "immune system."

Another key discovery made by Dr. Voon's team was that over half of the study subjects (with an average age of 25) were now more likely to get erections from watching porn than with a flesh and blood partner. This is a profound statement on the severity with which porn undermines human intimacy. It also highlights the need to reduce or eliminate porn consumption during recovery from sexual addiction in order to cleanse the sexual palate and rediscover healthy physiological and psychological sexual impulses. Although the sex addict suffers from an acute obsession that pervades every aspect of life, from work to relationships to self-esteem, of which compulsive use of pornography may only be a single manifestation, it is a clear and obvious place to begin the healing process.

TL;DR: Excessive use of porn is unhealthy and harmful. Embrace NoFap, or if you are going to masturbate, at least do so without watching porn.

P.S. It's been a week since I'm porn-free Banana
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Hey guys,

I see that there is a strong community here who have taken onto the nofap/no porn challenge. I have a question for u guys.

Would you still continue or have taken up nofap/noporn if you knew that because of certain circumstances you could not get laid in the future for a long time?

Assume any or a combination of the below:

1. You are deserted on an island and you do not know when you will get off.
2. You're involved in a job which involves you being shipped of to a remote place where there are no women.
3. You reside in a country where premarital sex is pretty damn hard to come by because of social/religious/cultural norms. (Middle East, SE Asia etc)

I know this may sound stupid but I want to know honestly if you guys think this factor would affect your decision or willpower?

One Year - Lets assume that's the time frame here - no porn/fap or sex. Would this even be healthy?
08-01-2014 04:18 AM
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Yes sehej I would still do it. It's not unhealthy. When your body needs to get rid of it you'll have a wet dream and that's it.
08-01-2014 07:47 AM
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Tim Ferriss on his blog just issued a challenge yesterday to go 30 days without alcohol and fappping.

I’m in.

Is anyone interested in having an accountability partner?

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+6 Days

Things are getting tough. I was out on a date last night (wine and TV at her place) and couldn't get any further than making out despite multiple attempts trying to escalate. I maintained frame and walked away, but with a case of blue balls (vasocongestion for you science types). I had a sharp ache in my testicular area. Normally, I would fap to get rid of that but now I couldn't. The pain was intense enough that I came very close to caving in and rubbing one out. I'm glad that I stayed strong and didn't and the pain eventually went away.
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Back to day 1. Funny how the littlest picture can set you off. 3 days without though is a good start for me.

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08-02-2014 11:48 AM
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Back on day 6. The test will be Sunday, when I usually end up giving in. This week was easy thanks to gettin' sum.

What's really weird to me is the flatline seems to be pretty constant. I don't get that excited over scantily clad chicks that show up online in ads or anything like I remember long ago. In person though, it can be a different story depending on the circumstances.
08-02-2014 01:23 PM
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I quit! Day 1 Tongue

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Day 6 nofap/noporn , I've been off and on Nofap for the last year.
What I have noticed so far is that my voice is lower, I'm not very horny but my urge to win and conquer other aspects of life is through the roof. Negative side is that my concentrationlevel has gone down and I catch myself clenching my jaws together a lot of the time.
The latter would explain why my jawmuscles seem to be more prominent. Also the constant feeling of having butterflies in your stomach is annoying but in a way it makes you feel alive.
08-03-2014 02:02 AM
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Day 51,

Banged a girl last thursday and came in like 5 minutes.. Later we banged again and I couldn't cum at all.
Have that happen to any of you guys? Do you know a solution?
08-03-2014 03:28 PM
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I think you tried to pound too close to your refractory period (that's the time it takes to "recharge" between nuts.)

I've found if I try again too soon after blasting it could diminish the feeling and my erection along with it.

Maybe just wait an extra 10-15 minutes next time.
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(08-03-2014 03:28 PM)Summer Wrote:  Day 51,

Banged a girl last thursday and came in like 5 minutes.. Later we banged again and I couldn't cum at all.
Have that happen to any of you guys? Do you know a solution?

I usually 50 mg generic viagra before first bangs (also ginkgo since too much NO can be bad for neurons - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10820186). Then I can focus on other things, flex the right muscles down there etc to last till I don't want to anymore without having to worry about losing wood or whiskey dick. As far as not being able to come at all, I have this happen sometimes after getting laid several times a day for a couple days and then holding back an orgasm when I feel it coming on. If I stop banging for 5 minutes and spoon/whatever, let the boner subside and then reescalate foreplay to penetration I can usually come without issue.

I'm at around 2.5 months without fapping to orgasm. Confidence is high and I've never gotten so much strange so consistently in my life. May never fap again.
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Cold Turkey is the ultimate thing, but cutting back will notice some changes, although not as profound and stronger. Anyone notice their intelligence increases as well if they are this thing for more than two weeks ?

Its hard to explain but its almost like the ether starts throwing women at you when are on nofap. Recently I've had good looking women seek me out to meet up through random ways, and I'm not talking about tinder here. Really strange but I'm not complaining Big Grin
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I'm on day #4 today. Pretty rough. I was hoping to be more productive as a result but now I'm just constantly thinking about and waiting for the next time I'm gonna have sex. Ahh.
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(08-04-2014 01:15 PM)bacan Wrote:  I'm on day #4 today. Pretty rough. I was hoping to be more productive as a result but now I'm just constantly thinking about and waiting for the next time I'm gonna have sex. Ahh.
Stop thinking about getting laid. If you imagine banging chicks you'll be more tempted to fap. Don't give in! Go out and do some approaches.
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I want to start this, and am aiming for 1 month no fap. Ive already got an insanely high libido, but am stopping because:
- Ive only been wanking regularly for about 2 years, (Im only 17, and before that I wouldnt really watch porn, Id just go in the shower). Over that period my tastes have become more extreme and fucked up. I dont want to be sucked down some wierd rabbit hole and be messed up in ten years.
- I want extra intensity in the gym.
- This should increase the imperative of going for real pussy. (Not that big an issue as Im already horny and go pretty direct when Im out at night).
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(08-04-2014 06:52 PM)Cyr Wrote:  I want to start this, and am aiming for 1 month no fap. Ive already got an insanely high libido, but am stopping because:
- Ive only been wanking regularly for about 2 years, (Im only 17, and before that I wouldnt really watch porn, Id just go in the shower). Over that period my tastes have become more extreme and fucked up. I dont want to be sucked down some wierd rabbit hole and be messed up in ten years.
- I want extra intensity in the gym.
- This should increase the imperative of going for real pussy. (Not that big an issue as Im already horny and go pretty direct when Im out at night).

Yeah dude, I've been on and off no fap this whole year, and the Testosterone, voice, motivation, pheromones everything gets better. It gets to the point where wanking depletes you of life-force. Quit porn too from now, and you'll be ahead of the curve. Porn doesn't help you relate with girls and hurts your game.

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(08-04-2014 07:20 PM)simondice Wrote:  
(08-04-2014 06:52 PM)Cyr Wrote:  I want to start this, and am aiming for 1 month no fap. Ive already got an insanely high libido, but am stopping because:
- Ive only been wanking regularly for about 2 years, (Im only 17, and before that I wouldnt really watch porn, Id just go in the shower). Over that period my tastes have become more extreme and fucked up. I dont want to be sucked down some wierd rabbit hole and be messed up in ten years.
- I want extra intensity in the gym.
- This should increase the imperative of going for real pussy. (Not that big an issue as Im already horny and go pretty direct when Im out at night).

Yeah dude, I've been on and off no fap this whole year, and the Testosterone, voice, motivation, pheromones everything gets better. It gets to the point where wanking depletes you of life-force. Quit porn too from now, and you'll be ahead of the curve. Porn doesn't help you relate with girls and hurts your game.

Yeah, I know what you mean about the life force thing. It didnt really register before, but about a week ago I read the same thing on Bold and Determined and it resonated with me- I always feel drained after I beat one off.
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I'm one sick puppy. Day 1 again

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Back to day one. 18 year old hormones vs willpower. Hormones for the win.

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I managed over two months before having a weak moment after a bang. Sometimes having sex triggers me to want more stimulation when I'm back by myself. Solution: minimize time at home the day after sex.

Here are some things I noticed while abstaining:

-My eyes light up more when seeing an attractive girl. Girls respond well to this and often their eyes light up too which makes for an easy approach.

-I feel that girls can sense that you are more 'eligible' than when you aren't looking at porn. It's as if they can sense that you are more open to making connections with new people.

-I'm way more relaxed. This is partly because of the extra time, energy, and testosterone I have. But it's also due to the elimination of cognitive dissonance. For the past year I've been 'NoPorn' way more than I haven't, so I already know the benefits and I know that I shouldn't be looking at porn. The cognitive dissonance leads to stress.

-I'm more confident. Porn is a huge temptation for young guys (and even girls now). Knowing that you are one of the people who is strong enough or is fulfilled enough by life that you can abstain from it makes you feel more confident.

-The voice thing is incredible. I don't understand the mechanism, but eliminating porn always leads to a deeper and richer voice for me and this is even more pronounced when I'm not jerking it at all either.

-I'm more persistent. This is the biggest help to my game. Let's face it, a little bit of thirst is necessary these days. When I'm using porn I'm more likely to abandon an approach before giving her time to warm up and more likely to burn a number if she's not very enthusiastic about getting the D. I just feel like girls want to fuck me more than usual, so I give them more chances to show it. Roosh had an interesting post about this recently.

-Most importantly I got laid more. Forget the cause-and-effect. Results are king.

It really is a blessing that so many guys out there are using more and more porn. Nowadays you can stand out by having very strong sexual desire, in addition to your game and lifestyle together, since so many guys have weak desire.

Here are some things I learned about keeping the streak going:

-No half measures. All porn obviously must be eliminated, but that's not what I'm talking about. I mean jerking it to non-porn, i.e. girls on facebook, instagram, dating sites is better than porn, but the issue is that it maintains the desire for stimulation from a computer screen. To quit for life you have to eliminate the entire concept of jerking off to a computer, period. The same goes with fantasizing about girls from porn. Don't tempt yourself. Get all of your stimulation from approaches. This leads to the next point.

-You must be actively approaching. All of my longest stints have occurred because I increased the amount of effort I put into approaching. As self-improvement gurus have been saying for years, you can't eliminate a bad habit, you have to replace it with a good habit. Your abstinence from porn combined with successes from approaching lead to a positive feedback cycle that will make it harder for you to relapse. If you haven't done 100 approaches then this is the time.

-Its better to eliminate jerking it altogether. See what happens if you ignore the so-called need to "clear the pipes". Your dick isn't going to fall off and you won't get cancer. Focusing at school work is harder when you are constantly thinking about sex, but you need to ride this wave of energy and learn how to balance it with your work-life. Use this as the ultimatum that your nuts have to come from the girls you approach. If this means temporarily lowering your standards, then do it, you'll build your way up to the girls you think you deserve.

-Keep up your other good habits. Don't focus on NoFap so much that you lose track of staying in shape, pursuing goals and improving style. Discipline can not be compartmentalized.
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Solid advice here
(08-06-2014 02:35 AM)Blunt Wrote:   As self-improvement gurus have been saying for years, you can't eliminate a bad habit, you have to replace it with a good habit.

This is dead on.

From my experience I've learnt:

Trying to do no fap without having regular sex with a girl is like trying to cut junk food out of your diet by not eating.

You'll eventually cave in.

If you stuff yourself with chicken, broccoli and eggs everyday you'll be satiated and have no desire for the Haagen-Daz.

For the next 30-90 days you need to have a girl/girls drain you of every last drop a few times a week. You'll be too tired to look at porn.

Of course, if you have PIED then this will be difficult. That is what makes it a vicious cycle that is hard to break.

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