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RE: Russian language: no more bullshit
I recommend russianaccelerator.com pimsleuer is kind of slow
06-30-2015 11:14 AM
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Listen and repeat
06-30-2015 12:23 PM
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(06-29-2015 01:47 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  Great thread, anyone know how many hours a day one can study Russian before it just starts to be useless?

I am definitely going to focus on the top 200 words used and get some conversations in on sharedtalk and other similar sources.

I have the flexibility to pretty much study all day and juggle work around it.

Maybe it is time to turn on Russian TV fulltime just to listen to it.

There is an optimum for learning where you divide your learning sessions into small, 15,20, 30 min periods. Utilizing the principles of primacy and recency which are used in a lot of memory techniques. Also, sexual content increases retention. I learned Japanese in college, spanish over the past few years and I did start basic russian on memrise to get the alphabet and basic grammar down.

I like to do about three or four fifteen minute sessions a day on memrise. It seems to be amount the most I can learn witout a sleep cycle.

I am trying to take my spanish from intermediate to advanced, and it seems like about two hours a day of conversation with a tutor is all I can take. I am actually in Mexico right now taking classes and tutoring sessions.

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06-30-2015 12:28 PM
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(06-30-2015 10:30 AM)texrifle Wrote:  Good Morning Gents,

I'm buying the Russian Pimsleur modules in 5 lesson increments and I'm currently on unit 13 of Pimsleurs Russian course. Intermittently there is a phrase the male speaker says which sounds like "Slosh-etch-EE , EE-paft-ta-retch-EE". I have redone the previous lesson and to no avail have discovered the meaning of this phrase. If anybody could explain it I would appreciate your effort. Thanks in advance.


Слушать means to listen. I have no idea what the other word is
06-30-2015 07:09 PM
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Cлушать и повторять - listen and repeat.
06-30-2015 07:10 PM
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@samsamsam I like to do 4 hours a day split into 4 sessions; I.e 4 1 hour sessions

Too much study can cause congestion of the mind
06-30-2015 07:22 PM
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(06-30-2015 07:09 PM)Agreddor Wrote:  
(06-30-2015 10:30 AM)texrifle Wrote:  Good Morning Gents,

I'm buying the Russian Pimsleur modules in 5 lesson increments and I'm currently on unit 13 of Pimsleurs Russian course. Intermittently there is a phrase the male speaker says which sounds like "Slosh-etch-EE , EE-paft-ta-retch-EE". I have redone the previous lesson and to no avail have discovered the meaning of this phrase. If anybody could explain it I would appreciate your effort. Thanks in advance.


Слушать means to listen. I have no idea what the other word is

I think that means "Listen and repeat"

I've been trying to figure out how to spell it in cyrillic but I'm not good at spelling in Russian, but living in Minsk for 6 months I picked up a bit
06-30-2015 08:03 PM
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Ah yes павтарите.

Listen and repeat indeed
07-01-2015 09:06 PM
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I've taken the lessons. They are saying, "listen and repeat" (but in the" you" formal form): слушаете and повторяете.
07-02-2015 12:16 AM
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Actually they are the formal commands or the imparitive. Слушайте и повторите. Spelled and pronounced differently than the formal verb conjugations.
07-02-2015 12:52 AM
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Conjugation is a pain in the ass
07-02-2015 07:40 AM
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I can believe people put all these efforts to learn Russian.

Нахуя, чуваки? Ну пиздец, просто. Не стоит оно того.

Hello from Russian-Australian Smile
07-02-2015 08:25 AM
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Stumbled across this sweet girl's videos:





She proposes a fluid way to learn conversational Russian which I feel like makes a lot of sense: focus on phrases and proper pronunciation first. Worry about individual words, the how/wen/ and why of grammar, and other technical details like alphabet and spelling later.

If you think about it, this is how we naturally learn our first language in early development. You hear your parents and people around you talking and you start repeating things that you hear a lot. You understanding and experience with the language grows the more you hear and the more you speak.
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(07-02-2015 08:31 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  Stumbled across this sweet girl's videos:





She proposes a fluid way to learn conversational Russian which I feel like makes a lot of sense: focus on phrases and proper pronunciation first. Worry about individual words, the how/wen/ and why of grammar, and other technical details like alphabet and spelling later.

If you think about it, this is how we naturally learn our first language in early development. You hear your parents and people around you talking and you start repeating things that you hear a lot. You understanding and experience with the language grows the more you hear and the more you speak.
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She is a nice enough girl and I have used her channel. But she is too westernized and talks too much for my taste. Try Russian plus on youtube. That dude is way more interesting and cool. I have learned faster with him.
07-02-2015 04:58 PM
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@captaincrazy

Большинство люди в Россий и СНГ страна все только говорите по-русский и в это страны много красивая девушка. Как быть с красивая девушка? Изучаю русский я должен.
07-03-2015 01:26 AM
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Anyone has a way to translate russian when its written in english letters? could not find such translator on the net.
A girl in mamba wrote this:
"Lyubov bez seksa ostavlyaet telo kholodnym, a seks bez lyubvi dushu pustoj..."
I only understood the word seksa Smile
07-08-2015 03:40 AM
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07-08-2015 03:42 AM
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(07-08-2015 03:40 AM)diego69 Wrote:  Anyone has a way to translate russian when its written in english letters? could not find such translator on the net.
A girl in mamba wrote this:
"Lyubov bez seksa ostavlyaet telo kholodnym, a seks bez lyubvi dushu pustoj..."
I only understood the word seksa Smile

http://translit.cc - options for Russian and other cyrillic based languages.

It doesn't do the translation, but you can convert to cyrillic and then put it into Google Translate. Google Translate itself actually has a conversion option too, but I think it only works if you type one word at a time (it then converts when you hit space after the word).
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Does anyone have a method for memorizing the conjugation of irregular verbs? I.e verbs that do not follow I and E group type conjugation?
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RVFers will like this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRjn041kfZQ

Good for building listening skills...

One thing I did was convert a bunch of youtube videos in russian to .mp3s, and then I listen to them when I work out to build my listening skills.
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(07-02-2015 04:58 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  
(07-02-2015 08:31 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  Stumbled across this sweet girl's videos:





She proposes a fluid way to learn conversational Russian which I feel like makes a lot of sense: focus on phrases and proper pronunciation first. Worry about individual words, the how/wen/ and why of grammar, and other technical details like alphabet and spelling later.

If you think about it, this is how we naturally learn our first language in early development. You hear your parents and people around you talking and you start repeating things that you hear a lot. You understanding and experience with the language grows the more you hear and the more you speak.
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She is a nice enough girl and I have used her channel. But she is too westernized and talks too much for my taste. Try Russian plus on youtube. That dude is way more interesting and cool. I have learned faster with him.

^^^I visited Moscow for business in March 2010 and with all of the sanctions and assorted political defugalities I have not been back but want to attend some trade shows in Moscow and major regional cities to mix business with pleasure - I had the basic business Pimsleur Course in my suitcase and did the first 6 CDs several times - for all the trashy stuff on YouTube got to love native speakers doing conversational and even more technical speaking - seeing their faces while they speak makes it easier for me to learn as they use their face, mouth and jaws to form words even if you are not consciously focusing on their speech bio-mechanics you still see it. Thanks for the YT links.
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Russia Today television network resources for learning Russian: Learn Russian.

Duolingo is about to start Russian next month: Russian.
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Just finished beating the Cyrillic alphabet into my head. Now time to figure out what all the words are...
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I think beginners and intermediate learners of Russian will find this guy's videos to be quite useful. The dude is an African student who's been living in Russia for several years. I personally find his pace and choice of vocabulary to be extremely easy to understand, way more than when I watch native speakers talk rapidly where I can barely grasp the topic of the video. Of course, when it comes to the accent, it's better to listen to natives but I think this might not always be the case for vocabulary and general practice. For the record, I've been learning Russian at uni for a little over a year, studying the grammar etc so I'm not quite fluent yet but I can now focus on more fun stuff like listening to some music or watching simple videos where the process is a bit more passive.

Here are a couple of my favourite videos from this guy. He speaks slowly and clearly, using basic to intermediate vocabulary. His accent is ok I guess.








Тот, кто не рискует, тот не пьет шампанского
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That African student has a very thick accent. Reminds me of Bruce Willis:


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