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(08-11-2016 01:26 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  Clinton is making an economics speech today. All of 2500 people watching online vs. 35,000 for Trump.

Well, that was a half hour of shit.

It was barely an economic speech, more like a 'regular' campaign speech that offered freebies like

- free university
- free childcare
- free healthcare
- minimum wage increases
- simplified business taxes
- govt investment in infrastructure

How those policies HELP businesses, I have no idea. Oh except for the one where she is going to create an entire gov't department to enforce trade law.

That and she talked about how her father made drapes. No one cares. All I got is that she wants to further spend money the country doesn't have.

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From the WSJ by way of ZeroHedge
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-10...foundation

According to an article in the Wall Street Journal:

“That the Clinton Foundation was calling in favors barely 3 months into Hillary Clinton’s tenure at the State Department is deeply troubling, and it is yet another reminder of the conflicts of interest and unethical wheeling and dealing she’d bring to the White House,” said Michael Short, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, in a statement Tuesday.

The first request for a "favor" came in April 2009, just 3 months after Hillary was confirmed as Secretary of State on January 21, 2009. The request came from Doug Band, a long-time adviser to Bill Clinton who helped him setup the Clinton Foundation after his Presidency. Per the email exchange, Mr. Band reached out the State Department to ask a "favor" on behalf of a person who the Clinton Foundation had recently setup with a trip to Haiti which he found "eye-opening" (the name of the person seeking the favor was redacted from the email exchange). Yes, well trading taxpayer dollars intended for earthquake relief in exchange for lucrative gold mining contracts from the Haitian government can be quite "eye-opening" indeed (see our post "Clinton Cash: "Devastating" Documentary Reveals How Clintons Went From "Dead Broke" To Mega Wealthy").

In an exchange from April 2009, a longtime aide to Mr. Clinton told three of Mrs. Clinton’s top advisers that it was “important to take care of” a particular person, whose name has been redacted from the document. That person had written the aide, Doug Band, under the subject line “A favor…” to thank him for the “opportunity to go on the Haiti trip,” which the person called “eye-opening.” Mr. Band was a chief adviser in helping Mr. Clinton launch the Clinton Foundation after leaving the White House.

Another request came from Gilbert Chagoury, a long-time associate of the Clintons with a checkered past. Chagoury is known for his ties to Nigeria’s military dictator, Sani Abacha, who was instrumental in helping him secure some lucrative construction contracts in the mid-90s. In 2003, Chagoury helped organize a trip to the Caribbean where former President Bill Clinton was "paid" $100,000 for a speech. Chagoury has also made bribes contributions to the Clinton Foundation of between $1-$5 million. Per the Wall Street Journal:

“We need Gilbert Chagoury to speak to the substance person re Lebanon,” Mr. Band wrote in April 2009. “As you know, he’s key guy there and to us and is loved in Lebanon. Very imp.”

Mr. Chagoury, a Lebanese-Nigerian billionaire, has donated between $1 million and $5 million to the foundation, according to its disclosures.

Ms. Abedin responded with the name of the State Department official, Jeff Feltman, who had served as a U.S. ambassador to Lebanon before becoming U.S. assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern Affairs. “I’m sure he knows him,” she wrote. “I’ll talk to Jeff.”

Fifteen minutes later, Mr. Band shot back: “Better if you call him. Now preferable. This is very important.”

In yet another email, Clinton chief of staff Cheryl Mills wrote to Hillary to inform her that the NSA was working on a modified blackberry that could be used for personal emails while working in restricted State Department offices. Even though Clinton thought this was "good news" she continued to just use her personal server anyway. Per the AP:

In another email, Clinton's chief of staff, Cheryl Mills, informed her that National Security Agency and State Department officials discussed an attempt to develop a modified blackberry for Clinton that might be used when she worked in a restricted State Department office that did not allow private phones.

So why were these emails not included in the original disclosure to the FBI? Could it be possible that Hillary believes that using her position as Secretary of State to setup meetings between former U.S. Ambassadors and shady international businessmen is somehow "personal" in nature? Makes you wonder what else was excluded from the FBI disclosures that was purely "personal." Guess we'll just have to elect her to find out if we can trust her.


Good to see the WSJ hasn't totally abandoned reality yet and is still reporting things like this.
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The media is fair.




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Super Deluxe was on point with that Hillary meme video, that was great. Best stuff since their airhorn-filled GOP debate videos.
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(08-10-2016 04:51 AM)iop890 Wrote:  Lonely Hillary.

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She up ahead 8 points, Trump camaign done, this time he went too far, Manafort is gonna leave, it's over guys brb moving to Iceland.
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(08-11-2016 06:50 PM)Last Parade Wrote:  Super Deluxe was on point with that Hillary meme video, that was great. Best stuff since their airhorn-filled GOP debate videos.




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^ It's a shame that video is so poorly edited...the title got me all excited Sad
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"Preet Bharara has launched a corruption probe into the Clinton Foundation, according to reports"

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/763944859468038144
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That's one of the worse things I've watched on Youtube in a while. Yuck.
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(08-12-2016 12:32 AM)username Wrote:  That's one of the worse things I've watched on Youtube in a while. Yuck.

I don't know.
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(08-08-2016 02:56 PM)spokepoker Wrote:  
(08-08-2016 08:21 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  [Image: o6wqx2.jpg]

You know, there is a part of Everest called "The Hillary Steps".
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A new decentralised investigation into the Clinton Foundation is under way in a joint effort by the FBI and various US attorneys according to an exclusive in the Daily Caller. The New York probe is being headed by Preet Bharara who has a fearsome reputation for taking down elites and financial institutions.

Joint FBI-US Attorney Probe of Clinton Foundation Is Under Way


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The Daily Caller was the first to break Hillary's impending FBI interview.

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I don't want to piss on what sounds like good news but, who exactly is leading this joint effort? If it's Comey or Lynch, that is not good at all. Those two are totally incompetent and corrupt. If Trump won, he would need a guy like Preet to be put into Lynch's role as head of the DOJ, and then go after her.

I do not see the FBI actually helping much, maybe even just collecting stuff to sit on later.

What is the deal with all the secrecy? No comments on current investigations? They told congress the same shit. We have a serious hole in terms of accountability in our government. The public should know if they are investigating something or not. We don't need the gritty details, just a confirmation isn't too much to ask for.

Also Preet's reputation for being tough doesn't mean jack shit. How many of those Wall Streeters went to jail? Minus Bernie Madoff, none of these rich fucks that put the country into a depression served any time. All he did was secure some billions in fines to put into Obama's special coffers to use as a political profit. I remember being pissed off about this back then. I didn't know it was Preet.

From his own Wiki page:
Quote:Citibank[edit]
Citibank was charged numerous times by Bharara's office and other federal prosecutors. In 2012 the bank reached a settlement with Bharara's office to pay $158 million for misleading the government into insuring risky loans.[8] Bharara also made a criminal inquiry into Citbank's Mexican Unit.[31] In 2014 Citi settled with federal prosecutors for $7 billion, for ignoring warnings on risky loans.[32]
Madoff Ponzi scheme and JPMorgan Chase[edit]
Almost as soon as he took office, Bharara began investigating the role of Bernie Madoff's primary banker, JPMorgan Chase, in the fraud.[33] Eventually Bharara and JPMorgan had reached a deferred prosecution agreement that called for JPMorgan to forfeit $1.7 billion, the largest forfeiture ever demanded from a bank in American history—to settle charges that it and its predecessors violated the Bank Secrecy Act by failing to alert authorities about Madoff's actions.[10][34][35][36]
His office also handled the criminal prosecutions of several employees at Madoff’s firm and their associates, who were convicted by a jury on March 24, 2014.[37]
Bank of America suit[edit]
In 2012, Mr. Bharara along with Federal prosecutors in Manhattan sued Bank of America for $1 billion, accusing the bank of carrying out a mortgage scheme that defrauded the government during the depths of the financial crisis.[9]
In 2013, the jury found Bank of America liable for selling Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac thousands of defective loans in the first mortgage-fraud case brought by the U.S. government to go to trial.[38] The civil verdict also found the bank’s Countrywide Financial unit and former Countrywide executive Rebecca Mairone liable.[39] The government relied upon the Financial Institutions Reform, Recovery and Enforcement Act (FIRREA), a civil statue that had rarely been used in the previous two decades.[40] The victory marked the first time a major U.S. bank has been held accountable for its role in the financial crisis.[41]


Maybe I am too harsh on a guy who was the first to do the things he did do. Maybe it will take time for this country to get better at rooting out corruption, but I must remain skeptical. Preet cannot do more than what Lynch allows him to do. The FBI agents (bless their hearts) cannot overshoot their coward boss. Both of those clowns get orders from Obama.

If Hillary wins, she will bust up their investigation(s) so fast it will make their heads spin. They took too long. Waay too long to start doing anything about her. They would need nearly a year to investigate her, and none of them have the balls/authority to make even a simple arrest while finishing up the case. They do NOT have 3 months to do anything. They realistically only have 1 left.

I think we are starting to look at the beginnings of a huge story of how did a monster become president and why was so impossible that no one was able to stop her from becoming one. This shit is starting to look like a cheesy made for TV movie, about the rise of the Anti-Christ and his reign of terror. I swear to God, it is like we are watching Satan in REAL-TIME, barely escaping being exposed, over and over and over. Every month, this fool is getting to the next stage by a hair.

Too many idiots that had the power to do something are shirking their duty out of self preservation, fear, or profit (Comey and Lynch). Foolishness and incompetence (like Julian Assange holding the leaks too long). The people themselves the result of decades of degenerate rot, are demonic influenced enough to let gays lead children (like Sodom and Gomorrah). Then we have Trump talking himself out of pussy (The Oval Office).

This shit is like Soundgarden's Black Hole Sun music video. Everyone is turning to the camera to smile and their faces are melting off. What a circus this is! We Americans won't even make it to the 600 or so odd years the Roman Empire lasted.

We are going to need write our own Titus Livius' accounts and put them into water proof time capsules at this rate. Roosh should probably download the entire forum and put it into a big USB harddrive and bury it somewhere.

I know I sound like a doom gloomer right now, but we as Americans are making something really simple, monumentally difficult right now. That is NOT a good sign. If we cannot get the basics of governance and law down correctly, it's only downhill from there and that move down will be surprisingly quick. This is the reason why Samseau's predictions tend to be right.

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In February of 2016 the U.S. State Department released more of Hillary Clinton’s emails. One of those emails originated on March 22nd 2011, the exact day President Obama launched the attacks on Libya.

The released email confirms what many already knew – it was Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice and Samantha Power who convinced President Obama to go to war in Libya:

“Turning POTUS around on this is a major win for everything we worked for”..

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In 2015 we noted an article at Real Clear Politics which hit on one of the key aspects of the Benghazi fiasco media have been hell-bent on hiding; Hillary Clinton, not President Obama, is actually the person responsible for the crisis in Libya.

When we watched the House Select Committee on Benghazi hearings, it was interesting to note how no-one really went ‘there‘ to give Clinton full ownership of the 2011 Libyan Intervention; ownership she deserves. So let’s review Clinton’s ownership.

It’s as if both congress and the media have forgotten those ridiculous 19-days in 2011 when Hillary was flying back-and-forth to meet with French Prime-Minister Sarkozy and plan their endeavors.

In the U.S. presidential adviser Samantha Power was bending Obama’s ear with declarations of a “Responsibility to Protect” (R2P) the Eastern Libyan citizens from the boogie man narrative assigned to Gadaffi.

Meanwhile in New York, U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice was answering calls from her British and French counterparts who were similarly selling an interventionist message.

Back in the White House, President Obama was reluctant to engage. It was Secretary Clinton working overtime to bring the President into the same line of thinking as herself.

In a moment of rare bi-partisanship many Democrats and Republicans were aligned with the White House in not wanting to intervene in Libya. Of course, there was John McCain and Lindsey Graham who joined with Team Clinton to bomb yet another nation into civil war. But too his initial credit, Obama was reluctant.

February 2011 France’s Sarkozy almost immediately began calling for the ouster of Kaddaffi and requesting Western nations to get involved to insure Kaddaffi fell. Sarkozy was quite passionate about it – which struck many observers as odd because he was ‘so far out’ ahead of any nation on this position.

However, unlike Egypt, as the fighting intensified in February 2011 President Obama was curiously silent around Libya.

This initial non-reaction was played by the adoring U.S. media as Obama being calm under pressure. However, this calm was beset by the reality of what was actually reported to be taking place on the ground in Libya. The word “slaughter” was in almost every article.

Meanwhile President Obama seemed unfazed, and strangely quiet. So much so that Sarkozy was demanding President Obama say something, anything. This U.S. silence went on for over two full weeks until eventually the media headlines began to question the Obama strategy, or, well actually, the lack thereof.

This culminated in a weekend around February 24, 25 and 26th, 2011, when headlines began to read that Kaddaffi “strafes” while Obama “golfs”. and astoundingly enough the Libyan Ambassador to the U.S. went on national television and begged for Obama to do something, ANYTHING.

Then a seemingly innocuous event transpired which actually summarized the lack of U.S. leadership quite well. This became the origin of the “leading from behind” sentiment.

It is important to understand that under President Obama the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations is actually a cabinet level position.

In 2011 Ambassador Susan Rice and Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, were essentially equal peers.

Ambassador Rice representing Obama to the U.N. in New York, and Secretary Clinton representing Obama to nations while “on-the-road” so to speak. Under the leadership structure of Obama’s cabinet both held equal and equivocal rank.

During that critical February weekend when the world was desperately demanding some form of action around the civil war in Libya, Sarkozy was having visible fits on EU television and trying to put together a European coalition.

In direct response to Sarkozy’s pleas the U.N. announced an emergency Security Council meeting of the six prominent nations to determine what, if any, action could be taken to stop what was described as the “pending slaughter in Libya”.

However, instead of attending that emergency U.N. Security Council meeting February 25th, 2011, Ambassador Rice went to South Africa to attend a global warming summit where they were discussing the danger of bovine flatulence (cow farts) as it relates to harming the environment.

Back in Washington DC the optics were even worse.

After ignoring cries for opinion, let alone involvement, and with Ambassador Rice blowing off the U.N. Security council meeting, and against the backdrop of media beginning to sense a detached president more interested in golf than Libya, the whole optical mess exploded.

Because on that very night when the U.N. Security Council met, a detached President Obama and his wife Michelle held a Motown Review Concert in the East Room of the White House.

By itself the White House Motown Review Party seemed a bit detached, but against the backdrop of Hillary proclaiming hundreds of women and children are being strafed in the streets, the optic was horrendous.

The contrast was so bold, and so stark, and happened so fast, and was seen by Europe and the United Nations as, well, unfathomable. The proverbial water-carrying media couldn’t ignore it if they wanted to.

Recognizing what was unfolding a rapid White House team scrambled with a crisis response…..

Against two weeks of silence in February 2011, and a fawning U.S. media beginning to doubt their own beliefs in the administration, the White House begins damage control for their earlier detachment.

When Susan Rice skipped a Feb 25, 2011 emergency weekend U.N. Security Council meeting, the Obama administration was compromised in their ability to influence any real outcome in Libya.

Without the U.S. seated at the policy table the U.N. made two strategic resolutions/decisions which were brutally short-sighted.

The first mistake was a resolution banning the sale or transfer of arms or weaponry into Libya during the civil war. On it’s face the ban might sound like a generally good idea; however, in reality it was exceptionally self-defeating. After all, it banned all weapons from entering Libya, including weapons for the opposition – which most thought would be needed for the “rebels” to defend themselves.

The second mistake was criminal charges brought about by the ICC (International Criminal Court) against the Kaddaffi regime. Nothing tells a dictator to double down on his position like telling him you as soon as this is over we will lock you and your family up for life.

Essentially those charges filed by the ICC solidified the certainty that Kaddaffi would never compromise. He was forced into a singular position – either he would win the civil war, or he would die trying. Losing the war would mean death or a life in prison – one of these was now certain. What did Kaddaffi have to lose by fighting?

This Security Council resolution highlights the emotional short-sighted outcome of most U.N. determinations. However, historically the U.S. has tempered logic to the 6 nation table of stupidity. But not this time. This time, at the specific direction of President Obama and his policy team, the U.S. did not even participate.

Obama and Hillary - The French Foreign LegionHowever, while the White House may have been annoyingly quiet, Hillary Clinton certainly was not.

This lack of synergy led to multiple instances where Clinton’s publicly voiced opinion ran exactly opposite to the Obama administration’s position she was supposedly representing.

The international optic was a completely out of sync with the White House and State Department.

Sometimes embarrassingly so.

The U.S. government came under fire today for chartering a rescue boat for Americans stuck in Libya that is too small to cope with the rough Mediterranean sea.

Hundreds of American citizens were finally set to depart Tripoli harbour aboard the Maria Dolores, a small passenger ferry chartered by the U.S., trapped there by rough seas.

At the same time larger Greek and Turkish vessels have transported thousands of their own citizens to safety, crossing the choppy water to mainland Europe. (link)

The State Department was struggling with multiple plates spinning simultaneously.

Secretary Clinton was noticeably unprepared to handle the heavy lifting and President Obama was not in the mood to initially bail her out. From the botched messaging, to the failure to evacuate American citizens from Western Libya, we watched as it almost seemed President Obama was enjoying Hillary being overwhelmed.

While Hillary had been trying to fill the February 2011 void left by Obama’s silence, another key player was working policy structure behind the scenes.

One of Obama’s little known advisors named Samantha Power began to play a more important role.

Power is the wife of Regulatory Czar Cass Sunstein, in 2011 she was a foreign policy advisor to President Obama along with Denis McDonough and Tom Donilon.

However, Power increasingly held a sway when it came to Libya, and her influence was soon noted with the introduction of the “Responsibility to Protect” Doctrine, or as it became known R2P.

Essentially her approach was to frame the possibility of defeat upon the Libyan Rebels in a similar venue as the historical Rwanda genocide. The potential slaughter of the Libyan Benghazi uprising was framed around a need for Humanitarian Intervention.

Despite the U.N Security Council resolution banning weapon distribution into Libya, the broad outline of a reason for U.S. intervention became visible. NATO would arm the rebellion and NATO would take action to “protect” the Benghazi rebels as Kaddaffi’s army moved ever closer to their weakly held positions.

However, there was one big problem – WE HAD NO IDEA WHO THE REBELS WERE. The administration had no idea what the ideology behind the Benghazi Rebels actually was.

Some analysts believe the administration actually did know, but chose not to recognize the rebels’ affiliation with al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood and armed them anyway.

Others, namely CNN analysts, said there was no real way to identify the ideology and we were just going to have to take a chance on them.

Personally I think there is profoundly enough visible evidence to state the administration ‘had to know’. Why?

Because there were hundreds of on-the-ground reports from the region which accurately identified individually very specific people within the rebels as radical islamists. There is no intellectually honest way to believe the administration did not know they were supporting al-Qaeda affiliates and the Muslim Brotherhood. The signs were just too obvious.

One of the first signs was the very first Kaddaffi politician who defected from the regime and joined the rebellion. Interior Justice Minister, Mustafa Abdel Jalil.

Within 48 hours of Justice Abdel Jalil surfacing as the first defector, and becoming the defacto leader of the rebels, it was easily identifiable his ideology was for a sharia compliant Libya.

But the reality of the “rebels” being al-Qaeda affiliated made things complex. In essence the CIA and DoD knew if Kaddaffi fell the most likely scenario would be a rise of Islamic extremism.

The compounding problem was the massive stockpiles of weapons that were at stake in the equation.

If Kaddaffi fell, decades of weapons built up in hundreds of warehouses were going to be up for grabs. Weapons that included surface-to-air missiles, MANPADS, shoulder fired stinger missiles and tons of mustard gas and WMD.

Kaddaffi had built up massive amounts of arms over a period of three decades as the worlds most notorious international terrorist.

Very soon those weapons and missiles would go missing; and it was the retrieval of those missiles that led to a joint State Dept./CIA operation putting Ambassador Chris Stevens in Benghazi, Eastern Libya where he was assassinated in September the following year….

So, yeah – she owns this:
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There was a relatively ignored article in the U.K. Telegraph in 2012 which specifically looked at the rise of al-Qaeda in Syria, which evolved into ISIS.

The actual fighters were interviewed and spoke in their own words about how the Western media didn’t understand that ISIS was fully in control. It’s an important article to read to gain a full understanding of who was doing what in Syria in 2011/2012
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/j...ttle-syria
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(08-10-2016 04:16 PM)Monty_Brogan Wrote:  I'm a tradesman and have to park in garages around the city. Most of the owners are these lots are from Abu Dhabi. And they get sweet fucking deals. Say the street is closed down for whatever -marathon, street fest, etc, well the city pays the bill for the maximum amount of cars that would've been able to fit in the garage while the street is closed. It's sickening.

These deals are also cut beyond the eyes of the public between opaque personal relationships by these foreign investors who talk with individual U.S. senators and mayors. Sometimes there is no bidding process at all. It's just all done behind closed doors. It's incredibly dirty. Only time it ever gets questioned is when it's a major landmark deal like ports.

Clinton will auction off literally every piece of America she can get her gnarled witch hands on. As president she would do incredible damage.

All those people she did business with in Clinton foundation as well as those who donated vast sums to her campaign will be calling in favors at the same time too.

This is the politics that Britain has had for a significant time. I would say since John Major was PM(early 1990s). Major signed the Maastricht Treaty, which set the ball rolling towards the EU state: EU sovereignty, EU currency, etc, globalist politics(corporation over people and nations).

Realistic appraisal of this was non-existent or scant, most of us thought we would get cheaper cigarettes and alcohol since the continentals paid much less tax on those products, and we envisioned(falsely) that there would be an equalisation of cost with membership of an trade/economic union. Since then, and encouraged by Blair and Cameron governments, there has been a prolific sell-off of British infrastructure and core services(energy, transport, prison, etc, etc.). My local Air Ambulance is funded by charity; a great deal of our power stations are French owned, various dominant transport franchises are foreign owned. Our national laws are superseded by EU laws, which allows global corporations to avoid billions in taxes. I'm simplifying a complex topic but this is one of the ways the middle-class in the West have been coerced in to de-populating themselves, because it is too costly to breed. My parents could raise a family and buy a house on one income; today's parents need two 'average or above' incomes and they might not even have a pension or retire.

Nationalism is the only obstacle to this political method, that I can see so far. There is more to expand on but hopefully I got some of my point across.
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Well, well, well :

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"Hilary's people want her and Trump sitting rather than standing during the POTUS debates. That's how bad #HillarysHealth is."

2 minutes in.
Trump - "You know folks. I think I'll demonstrate my stamina by standing for the rest of the debate.
Care to join me in standing up the whole time Hillary?"
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Well well. I am not sure if this medical opinion will have much legs in MSM, but it confirms alot of the stuff we discussed and that shitty dude Martin called it first. That was very well written and made alot of sense.

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(08-12-2016 08:31 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  I don't want to piss on what sounds like good news but, who exactly is leading this joint effort? If it's Comey or Lynch, that is not good at all. Those two are totally incompetent and corrupt. If Trump won, he would need a guy like Preet to be put into Lynch's role as head of the DOJ, and then go after her.

I do not see the FBI actually helping much, maybe even just collecting stuff to sit on later.

If Hillary wins, she will bust up their investigation(s) so fast it will make their heads spin. They took too long. Waay too long to start doing anything about her. They would need nearly a year to investigate her, and none of them have the balls/authority to make even a simple arrest while finishing up the case. They do NOT have 3 months to do anything. They realistically only have 1 left.

I think we are starting to look at the beginnings of a huge story of how did a monster become president and why was so impossible that no one was able to stop her from becoming one. This shit is starting to look like a cheesy made for TV movie, about the rise of the Anti-Christ and his reign of terror. I swear to God, it is like we are watching Satan in REAL-TIME, barely escaping being exposed, over and over and over. Every month, this fool is getting to the next stage by a hair.

Too many idiots that had the power to do something are shirking their duty out of self preservation, fear, or profit (Comey and Lynch). Foolishness and incompetence (like Julian Assange holding the leaks too long). The people themselves the result of decades of degenerate rot, are demonic influenced enough to let gays lead children (like Sodom and Gomorrah). Then we have Trump talking himself out of pussy (The Oval Office).

TravelerKai, what do you think about the FBI Anon line about not being able to prosecute because it would involve nearly everyone in govt?

I'm sure it's not evil Hillary and a bunch of dopey civil servants for the rest of them. The politicians are 99% corrupt. So you get a bunch of investigators thinking the options are:
1. let one bad person go
2. bring the country into chaos overnight

Or I guess option 3 is the investigators all get disappeared.
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(08-12-2016 02:06 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  Well, well, well :

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"Hilary's people want her and Trump sitting rather than standing during the POTUS debates. That's how bad #HillarysHealth is."

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Martin Shkreli suspects she has early onset Parkinson's Disease.

https://www.periscope.tv/MartinShkreli/1eaJbLAbbBoKX

Say what you will about Shkreli, but has personally done drug discovery for Parkinsons in the past and he goes into an explanation of the symptoms fairly well.
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(08-12-2016 03:30 PM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:  
(08-12-2016 08:31 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  I don't want to piss on what sounds like good news but, who exactly is leading this joint effort? If it's Comey or Lynch, that is not good at all. Those two are totally incompetent and corrupt. If Trump won, he would need a guy like Preet to be put into Lynch's role as head of the DOJ, and then go after her.

I do not see the FBI actually helping much, maybe even just collecting stuff to sit on later.

If Hillary wins, she will bust up their investigation(s) so fast it will make their heads spin. They took too long. Waay too long to start doing anything about her. They would need nearly a year to investigate her, and none of them have the balls/authority to make even a simple arrest while finishing up the case. They do NOT have 3 months to do anything. They realistically only have 1 left.

I think we are starting to look at the beginnings of a huge story of how did a monster become president and why was so impossible that no one was able to stop her from becoming one. This shit is starting to look like a cheesy made for TV movie, about the rise of the Anti-Christ and his reign of terror. I swear to God, it is like we are watching Satan in REAL-TIME, barely escaping being exposed, over and over and over. Every month, this fool is getting to the next stage by a hair.

Too many idiots that had the power to do something are shirking their duty out of self preservation, fear, or profit (Comey and Lynch). Foolishness and incompetence (like Julian Assange holding the leaks too long). The people themselves the result of decades of degenerate rot, are demonic influenced enough to let gays lead children (like Sodom and Gomorrah). Then we have Trump talking himself out of pussy (The Oval Office).

TravelerKai, what do you think about the FBI Anon line about not being able to prosecute because it would involve nearly everyone in govt?

I'm sure it's not evil Hillary and a bunch of dopey civil servants for the rest of them. The politicians are 99% corrupt. So you get a bunch of investigators thinking the options are:
1. let one bad person go
2. bring the country into chaos overnight

Or I guess option 3 is the investigators all get disappeared.

FBI Anon was right that much more are involved than just Hillary. That's a given. Problem is, unless Julian yanks a old disgusting tarp off for us all to see who, it will be a moot point.

The smoky backroom will never go away. Huma will be the fall guy before Hillary does. All workers and board members of the Clinton Foundation before Bill Clinton.

I think it all depends upon who and how bad it is. The FBI might be waiting to see what Julian has first. If you think about it, if Julian has something that gets 4-5 congressmen in trouble, Obama, Hillary, Huma, all her aides (or a handful from the State Dept.), you would not want to pull trigger until the newspaper reveals what they have first. Except in today's world the newspaper is extinct and outfits like Wikileaks exist.

The Washington Post and the NYTimes would be forced to work with the authorities on when to reveal. The FBI and police always get a heads up before the public knows first. If they charge a useless person first, then Wikileaks may have the upper hand and they will look bad. Really bad. As if they were complicit in the coverup from jump street.

We might be observing a game of chicken between the FBI and Wikileaks.

As for if many in government are implicated, they cannot all go to jail. America is still America. Someone will always get immunity for snitching. Half to could roll on the others until Obama gets blamed for it all. Shit always rolls downhill, but when police are involved, it rolls uphill.

A new Administration (like if Trump wins), means a clean house for the most part. Trump might have to replace appointees a tad more than usual or ask for resignations. Some may even resign before it gets out of control, but only if they can secure immunity first (if they are smart).

Charles Barkley said it best. Rich people don't go to jail. Double so for rich politicians. They would have to had done something really egregious to get locked up.

They also would not lock up Bill Clinton either. I think house arrest is the worst they would do to him. Trump might even do a pardon for him or a few others. Proceedings would get delayed just to set it all up. It's just too embarrassing for the country, and I do not think Trump has a hardon that raging to punish them. Like most he would just want them all kicked out and for the country to move on. Too many in powerful positions would plead with him to do so and advise him heavily on that. We already have a precedent for doing this (See Nixon).

Seth could be a wildcard, but I can see a scenario where the truth on that never sees the light of day due to both parties and the DOJ squashing that.

They would never let it get to the point of chaos. They will prepare who falls and quickly do deals to end the disgrace. If voters are still not satisfied it will drag on, but that may be unlikely, especially if Trump wins, because he has not added many of those people into his new administration to begin with.

If Hillary were to win, you can bet on chaos 100%

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They're not telling people because 1: It involves a shit load of powerful people, including foreigners with their hands in US domestic and foreign affairs and 2: The public cannot digest such a shit storm without threatening the government trust.

It will take time for such investigations to come to fruitition and by the time it rolls round the public would be really fatigued.

Or maybe they don't want to tell anyone because they are dealing with people who are too big to fall and they cannot be prosecuted. Would make them look weak.
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