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(11-16-2017 05:59 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  I've heard tell the African nurses are actually crueller still.

My grandmother died from being given unsanitary water by African care home workers. When in hospital, given she was about 93, the National Health Service (socilised) sent in their negotiator to aggressively bully my mother and her sisters in to agreeing to not treating her bladder infection (I presume it's relatively simple) and just let her die.

The socialised health service in this country (the UK) is on an unstoppable slide down hill. One of it's primary functions is to do its best not to diagnose you. My mother tried to get a diagnosis from them for 2-3 years and only succeeded in being told she was mentally ill and stuffed on anti-depressants. She got a diagnosis in 15 minutes after going private and is now also dead. The government had plenty of money to investigate her death, thought not much to invest in her life.

Many people in Britain now know that to get anything from the NHS you need to go private to get your diagnosis, then take that to the NHS to get on a waiting list for treatment.
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Some interesting rumors that Putin may not run for Russian presidential election in March. Bryan is one of the better journalists when it comes to Russian politics. One to keep an eye on.....especially since it's almost only 3 months until the election and he hasn't announced candidacy yet.







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I've been tracking YouTube videos on the Alt-right, mostly to see how well the Left can argue against it.

This video is part of a "highly ambitious" web-series that attempts to explain what the Alt-right is, and how to fight it.

In my mind, it wins the award for Least Self-Aware Video on YouTube.

You don't need me to tell you what's so self-unaware about it, so I won't. I will instead recommend this video for entertainment purposes only.



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(11-16-2017 06:37 AM)gework Wrote:  
(11-16-2017 05:59 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  I've heard tell the African nurses are actually crueller still.

My grandmother died from being given unsanitary water by African care home workers. When in hospital, given she was about 93, the National Health Service (socilised) sent in their negotiator to aggressively bully my mother and her sisters in to agreeing to not treating her bladder infection (I presume it's relatively simple) and just let her die.

The socialised health service in this country (the UK) is on an unstoppable slide down hill. One of it's primary functions is to do its best not to diagnose you. My mother tried to get a diagnosis from them for 2-3 years and only succeeded in being told she was mentally ill and stuffed on anti-depressants. She got a diagnosis in 15 minutes after going private and is now also dead. The government had plenty of money to investigate her death, thought not much to invest in her life.

Many people in Britain now know that to get anything from the NHS you need to go private to get your diagnosis, then take that to the NHS to get on a waiting list for treatment.

We already know that life expectancy is crashing both in the US as well as the UK.

You cannot heal a malnourished poisoned body by stuffing it with more poisons (pharma-meds). Most of those old-age problems could be remedied by change of diet, clean food, clean water (UK still has fluoridation going on) and high-quality high-dosage supplements. In addition you let go of 90%+ of all chronic disease medications and voila - patient suddenly improves and lives longer and more healthy.

But that is not the goal here. Neither is the pharma industry interested in this patent-free solution, nor are the governments interested in paying pensions for decades.

So aside from deliberate awareness that the healthcare system is becoming ever more inept and there is an ever greater push to simply kill off the patients past the age of 65+ (unless you are important in their eyes).

https://www.rt.com/uk/222159-fall-life-expectancy-nhs/

Quote:‘Significant decline’ in UK life expectancy, health officials warned


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Also I might add - this has not much to do with whether the system is socialized or single payer. A mix between single payer state and private is probably best, but the state financed system has to be ethical and not predatory or plain stupid (for example hiring MDs and nurses all across the world with no checkup on actual abilities and experiences).
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I wanted to post this in the Cernovich thread, but it apparently no longer exists?

Anyway, this story has two parts.

Part One began maybe four years ago when Cernovich tweeted a joke. (I think, about date rape.) If one wanted to be a dumbass, one would take that joke literally, then scream bloody murder, in order to get Cernovich fired.

Part One ended about two months ago when MSNBC personality (and radio host, and YouTube presence) Sam Seder did this very thing. Unfortunately for Sam, Cernovich is his own boss, so Sam was a stupid dumbass, ON TOP OF being a regular dumbass.

End Part One.

Part Two began in 2009, when Sam Seder made a joke about Ronan Polanski and child rape. If one wanted to be a dumbass, one would take that joke literally, and then scream bloody murder in order to get Sam Seder fired.

About five days ago, Cernovich decided to be that sort of dumbass. But Cernovich was being a vengeful dumbass. And not a stupid one, because Sam Seder's boss is MSNBC.

Sam Seder got so flustered that he released this heartfelt video four days ago.





In the very first minute, he accuses Dr. Sebastian Gorka of being "Alt-right", and he calls Roy Moore a "predator of young girls".

If one were inclined to be fair, one might have sympathy for poor Sam. But these aren't days for fairness, because Vengeance is much more satisfying.

And roughly five hours ago, this happened.


Laugh3

Laugh4

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Cerno, you stir too much drama sometimes, but I love what you did here.


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From Heartiste's blog. The shiv is strong.

"We’ve become the United States of Ingrates. Illegal aliens storm our land and demand our treasure and deference, sanctimonious virtue arbiters of the priestly class rob us blind and destroy our social fabric and then demand we abide their predations, crazy old cat ladies and fish-mouthed sluts for whom post-patriarchy life has been a soft pillowcase of negative struggle demand more government largesse and cultural favoritism while libeling the very men who provide them their comforts, nonWhites suck us dry and visit immense aesthetic and criminal violence on our communities and demand our apologies and our blame for it, foreign economic mercenaries arrive at the behest of wage-gutting globocorps and promptly lecture the native stock on their racism and lack of commitment to importing more foreign scabs, members of the most privileged minority race in America sit atop the heights of achievement wealth and influence in astronomically and suspiciously disproportionate number and use their power to undermine those beneath them while demanding encomiums to their victimhood….."
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(12-04-2017 09:48 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  I wanted to post this in the Cernovich thread, but it apparently no longer exists?
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https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-29632.html
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Quotes That Haven't Aged Well #1132:


"The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilised community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others...in the part which merely concerns himself, his independence is, of right, absolute." - John Stuart Mill, On Liberty
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(11-30-2017 09:06 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  I've been tracking YouTube videos on the Alt-right, mostly to see how well the Left can argue against it.

This video is part of a "highly ambitious" web-series that attempts to explain what the Alt-right is, and how to fight it.

In my mind, it wins the award for Least Self-Aware Video on YouTube.

You don't need me to tell you what's so self-unaware about it, so I won't. I will instead recommend this video for entertainment purposes only.




Thanks that was a really interesting video.
He actually makes some decent points in it, but bizarrely fails to see how his own side engage in exactly these Alinsky-esque tactics that he accuses the alt right of!
He is either a massive hypocrite, a blatant liar or living in a hermetically sealed progressive echo chamber.
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Couldn't make it past the faggoty voice.

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Forney's holding a livestream about the Alabama Senate election:


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Russia is pozzed too apparently. Look at the language RT uses when preventing another muslim attack:
https://www.rt.com/news/413307-fsb-isis-...rg-attack/

Quote:The attacks were planned to involve “a suicide bomber blowing [himself] up inside a religious facility and the murder of civilians with improvised explosive devises in places of mass gatherings,” the FSB statement said

"A "Religious facility"? Can't just say a Church?

Quote:enforcement agents seized “a large amount of explosive materials, elements of IEDs, automatic arms, ammunition and extremist literature

"Extremist literature"? Can't just say the fucking Quran eh? because anyone can be extremist right?

Quote:Earlier this week, FSB head Aleksandr Bortnikov reported foiling a terrorist plot which would have involved bombings during the New Year celebration and upcoming presidential election campaign. The schemes also involved a cell with links to IS.

I think this notion of Russian muslims being 'patriots' is complete horseshit. They seem to have the same problem every intelligence agency has in constantly trying to prevent them from slaughtering people.

During the soviet union most of the muslims remained in their regions right? Maybe they were a part of Russia but stayed in Chechnya, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, etc....they weren't present in Russian cities in these numbers they are now. I don't know why on Earth leaders think it's worth it to destroy your culture by mass-importation of low-skilled labor to make your GDP rise 2.5% more. I thought slavics understood that.
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RT and Sputnik are surprisingly globalist and anti-Trump for what are supposed to be "ultra-nationalist, fascist Russian propaganda channels".

Or maybe I've just gotten to the blatant Communist propaganda from our MSM that balanced reporting seems alienating.

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(12-15-2017 10:34 AM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  Russia is pozzed too apparently. Look at the language RT uses when preventing another muslim attack:
https://www.rt.com/news/413307-fsb-isis-...rg-attack/

Quote:The attacks were planned to involve “a suicide bomber blowing [himself] up inside a religious facility and the murder of civilians with improvised explosive devises in places of mass gatherings,” the FSB statement said

"A "Religious facility"? Can't just say a Church?

Quote:enforcement agents seized “a large amount of explosive materials, elements of IEDs, automatic arms, ammunition and extremist literature

"Extremist literature"? Can't just say the fucking Quran eh? because anyone can be extremist right?

Quote:Earlier this week, FSB head Aleksandr Bortnikov reported foiling a terrorist plot which would have involved bombings during the New Year celebration and upcoming presidential election campaign. The schemes also involved a cell with links to IS.

I think this notion of Russian muslims being 'patriots' is complete horseshit. They seem to have the same problem every intelligence agency has in constantly trying to prevent them from slaughtering people.

During the soviet union most of the muslims remained in their regions right? Maybe they were a part of Russia but stayed in Chechnya, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, etc....they weren't present in Russian cities in these numbers they are now. I don't know why on Earth leaders think it's worth it to destroy your culture by mass-importation of low-skilled labor to make your GDP rise 2.5% more. I thought slavics understood that.

There are huge assessments by insiders that Russia might tip Muslim in a few decades. Even now the Russian army is almost 40% of all recruits. It will be 50%+ very soon.

The Russian media for example did not even report of the Muslim nanny beheading the child she was supposed to care for. She walked through the city and the Russian media was slow at reporting it and forgot it quickly.

In my opinion WWIII with Islam starts when Russia turns Islamic or large parts of their military usurp chunks of the country. With Russian backup and military tech a real world war can start.

And yes- RT and other official newschannels are quite PC and are not overly critical of Islam. Extremism has nothing to do with Islam - they are saying exactly the same as the Western media counterparts.
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Ann Coulter is feeling alone according to the trend. And this is trending too.


This is the context though. Not sure what law it is though.
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It's better that these wars / civil wars / economic collapses occur within 5 years while westerners / Europeans still have favorable numbers. If it doesn't happen for 30 years then damn near all of these places are going to fall and be snuffed out ethnically. Poland's new prime minister is a jewish banker who "wants better relations with the EU" so they might be fucked too.
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(12-15-2017 02:32 PM)kbell Wrote:  
Ann Coulter is feeling alone according to the trend. And this is trending too.


This is the context though. Not sure what law it is though.

She kind of has a point. Rubio is going for a high tax break for people with children, per child, (of which he has 4) and not giving a shit about the taxpayer with no children.

I have to pay taxes to support these statistical probabilities which I was careful not to become a part of.

I've dealt with this my whole life. Just because I don't have kids, my existence doesn't count as much as someone who couldn't pull out or use birth control, so I should make sacrifices for them.

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(12-15-2017 02:32 PM)kbell Wrote:  
Ann Coulter is feeling alone according to the trend. And this is trending too.


This is the context though. Not sure what law it is though.

I'm not saying that people who refuse to have kids are bad people, but in some sense they are not full contributors to the lifetime of their nation.

Having kids and the time/money you contribute in that regard can be viewed as a tax you pay to the future of your nation. The reason that birth rates are cratering among responsible middle-class couples (in favour of a dog instead) is because families with kids simply cannot compete financially with people who's income is totally unfettered.

But what it boils down to is this. A nation that breeds has a future and a nation that doesn't has none. We rightly hold gays in social suspicion for that reason alone. They have no investment whatsoever in the long term success of their nation. Accordingly whatever measures it takes to get people creating legitimate families is a measure of survival, and "fairness" (that eternal, self measured illusion) is a secondary concern.

As much as it's going to piss off many of the single guys here, people that don't breed are in many ways more like visa holders than genuine citizens.
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Looks like the Bachelor tax, but with genderless appeal so women get to play too! All is fair in love and war.

So single people fund others for their families? I understand society needs children but tax payers of all creeds are funding welfare babies and socialised/subsidised child care so what the hell is this? A direct hit to childless couples and singletons?
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(12-15-2017 07:40 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  As much as it's going to piss off many of the single guys here, people that don't breed are in many ways more like visa holders than genuine citizens.

Damn. 11 Tours of duty in Iraq, Afghanistan, Indonesia, Colombia, Africa, and Eastern Europe I just got citizenship pulled because I didn't impregnate my high school sweetheart.

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With the Moore loss, sexual accusations have become a viable political strategy.

The GOP needs to start stockpiling accusers NOW for the 2018 midterms. They might need 200 or more whores... Excuse me I meant women... to come forward to beat whatever the Democrats have in their stable.
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I don't have a big problem with the tax code favoring married couples with children including this child tax credit. It's expensive to raise children these days and any break you can get from your taxes is helpful in this regard. The other reason i support the tax code being favorable towards families is that it rewards people for forming families which are the backbone of a functioning civilization. Lower taxes on families also allows wives to work part time or be stay at home which so many guys here favor, with good reason. Now I wouldn't go as far as Leonard and refer to all of the single dudes here as the H1-B visa holders of our society but there isn't anything wrong with the tax code providing incentives and rewards for families and less relief for single people with no kids.

I do agree though that the problem with the tax code is that it rewards single mothers as well which I'm entirely against. I'm guessing that's the problem a lot of people like Ann Coulter have with the tax code. I think they ought to get rid of the Head of Household category which was created just for single mothers to pay at a tax rate comparable to a married couple, the Earned Income Credit which pays single mothers to have kids with no Dad's around and this tax credit that Rubio expanded for people who don't pay any net taxes. These are problems for sure but they had to leave that stuff alone so that the Republicans wouldn't get tarred and feathered for punishing "the poor". As it is, the bill is going to barely cross the finish line (I hope) so this is the cost of getting a huge reform of the tax code done which was long overdue. The resultant increase in economic growth will be well worth annoyances like Rubio's give away to single mothers and if the economy really takes of to 5-6% growth by 2020, Trump will easily win reelection and the lefties will be set back for a generation.
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(12-15-2017 08:18 PM)Dulceácido Wrote:  
(12-15-2017 07:40 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  As much as it's going to piss off many of the single guys here, people that don't breed are in many ways more like visa holders than genuine citizens.

Damn. 11 Tours of duty in Iraq, Afghanistan, Indonesia, Colombia, Africa, and Eastern Europe I just got citizenship pulled because I didn't impregnate my high school sweetheart.

Easy, sport. In my world only service members and vets would get the vote so we'd have none of these problems in the first place.

Fixing this tangled mess we're left with is not easy but encouraging middle-class families to start breeding again is an absolute necessity. Your service is a credit to you but nations survive on the premise of the nuclear family. It if makes it any easier then I'd much rather those breaks be funded out of every last cent of ghetto welfare and foreign aid.
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