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The most recent thing that shows how much of a meme Britain has become was the scheduled debate between May and Corbyn. It was Corbyn, someone who spent most of his adult life advocating leaving the EU arguing to stay in; and May, someone who has spent most of their adult life being for EU membership arguing to 'leave'. But in the farce of political debates the country now offers, they were to weak to even show up.

Steven Woolfe hit the nail on the head:


Given the choices I would go for Boris Johnson. He's the same as most of the new guard in The Conservative Party and virtually everyone in Labour, in that he comes from a well-off background, went to good schools, got into a ivory tower non-job (journalism, NGO, quango, quasi-governmental, political aid, union) etc. and is now in politics. These people have no knowledge of normal people's lives.

But from the amount of women who we know Boris's balls have been inside, we know he at least has them. Raab and Davis are stiffs with no fire, same as virtually everyone else. Boris is the only one who could pull something out of the bag.

I think the most likely outcome is for MPs to revoke Article 50 shortly before the leave date; and then just mull around not knowing what to do.

I think the EU know that there is no way Britain could go back into the EU without leaving the EU being the defining aspect of British politics in perpetuity. I think they are quite happy with the May deal, which is somehow paying to be in a worse, legally hamstrung position where you have to take whatever deal the EU cook up remain in the EU-controlled limbo.

That the remainers are happy to stay in a dictatorship that offers such an abusive offer tell you all you need to know. If Russia was doing this, we'd never hear the end of it. If the EU was a permentant right-wing dictatorship they'd be crying, "It's dangerous!", "Far-right!", "It's a dictatorship."

But they're not. Under their veneer of buzzwords like "meaningful vote", "how is a second referendum not democratic?", "people's vote" they are trying to get exactly what they want - a permanent left-wing government.

I also find remainers also make their arguments from an EU perspective. I din't see an ounce of concern for the British position. It's only, "Well, the EU are not going to damage their position." I quickly get to the point where they say, "If the EU offers Britain a good deal then everyone will want to leave." To which I reply, "And you're arguing for a dictatorship that can't give one inch without the whole thing falling apart. How progressive." Their true face is revealed. All their sweet words are a syrupy ploy to continue their left-wing dictatorship while not appearing like a fascist.

As for the second referendum, we had that at the 2017 GE when both parties ran on leaving the EU. Surely they need three more referendums to have best of five. There are no rules.

I hope for complete mayhem and pandemonium. If it's May's deal, a limp Corbyn takeover or just staying in the establishment will be steering into the biggest shit storm of the growing revolt against themselves. They are disappearing at an astonishing rate and with all the demographic and economic indicators pointing down, they will soon be destroyed,
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The EU has told May to get lost which is predictable. What the Tories now face is a potential crisis for their very government, because as cucks always learn there are repercussions for their actions.

They can no longer seek a new PM for 12 months and this deal needs to be pushed through but they face a large bloc of cross-party MPs who will vote against it. Once that happens the only possible recourse is a no confidence vote in the Tory government.

Effectively giving Labout a better chance and getting into power.

I expect a lot of deals behind closed doors with the Tories as they have a lot of Mps who will vote it down but again, a double edge sword awaits and their jobs are on the line because the deal will betray Brexit and its voters.

Millions of people aren't just going to fuck off and call it a day. Names will be taken and faces will be remembered.
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Was watching BBC Question Time last night, even though I know it's bad for my blood pressure. I've noticed now that anytime one of these talking heads mentions a 'second referendum' my hand involuntarily forms a fist. If they escalate things further by daring to call such a travesty a 'People's Vote' then both hands become fists, my jaw clenches and I relax into a thousand-yard slavic death-stare.

The Remainers in holding all the media power have done a grand job of moving the Overton Window far enough now that a second referendum looks like a 'sane, sensible, choice' (in their own tiny heads, at least).

One audience member reminded people however, that many of those 17 million Leave voters will 'never vote again' if they do such a thing. At least not for any 'moderate' party! Also, if they thought those 17 million were angry pre-Brexit, we can only guess at how angry they are gonna get once they see their original vote overturned by a forced 2nd one. Being British, some of them might take the unprecedented step of writing impolite letters to their local MP!

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I saw 1 minute of that QT last night. Did you happen to notice the 4, ugly, fat and white middle aged women on there with dyke cuts?

Absolutely horrific.
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(12-14-2018 09:13 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  I saw 1 minute of that QT last night. Did you happen to notice the 4, ugly, fat and white middle aged women on there with dyke cuts?

Absolutely horrific.

Yeah, and now that Dimbleby has been replaced with a careercunt (last night was his last one), they'll be absolutely salivating at the thought of promoting their first ever 'all-female' panel and host. They'll probably hold off for a few episodes first before they can no longer restrain themselves.

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With May now saying once again that there won't be a 2nd referendum, I'm more convinced than ever that there will be one.

It's just too tempting and neat for the globalists to ignore; by the time the vote comes there will be around 2 million leavers gone (dead) and around 2 million remainers enter the voting register (coming of age and recently arrived gimmegrants). That, combined with postal voting fraud and Leavers boycotting, is a cast-iron guarantee of overturning the 2016 vote for good.

This leaves Leavers in a massive predicament;

Boycott (and therefore lose) the vote, or by voting legitimise it! Those crafty bastards.

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Boycott is the only choice. I think Leave would just about scrape a second referendum if it's held in the next year or so but any longer and the demographic clock strikes midnight.

This country is seriously fucked. On the face of it, it's good that May has said there won't be a second referendum but given her frankly abysmal governance record it's practically meaningless.

To be honest at this stage I would accept remaining in the EU if it meant we could cut non-EU, non US/Can/Aus/NZ/SA immigration to zero. That's the more immediate threat to the stability and security of this country.
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The deadlock and back room dealing risks having a true socialist government in England. I would enjoy the shit show that would bring!
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Corbyn has just tabled a vote of no confidence in the PM.

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(12-17-2018 08:52 AM)Richard Turpin Wrote:  With May now saying once again that there won't be a 2nd referendum, I'm more convinced than ever that there will be one.
My thoughts as well. May is treacherous and devious. She will say that she tried her best and was dead against a second referendum but events have left the UK no choice but to go back to the ballot box. Of course a second time round the changed demographics and the new urgency to rig it properly will get them the leave vote.

It kills me at work to hear my brainwashed colleagues bang on about how May is trying her best. She's owned and playing a game on everyone. The BBC love it. They know it is all being fixed, slowly but surely in Remain's favour.

My disgust with British politics is so high I can't listen the news any more and have to tune out. At what point will the British public snap?
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(12-17-2018 02:19 PM)rotekz Wrote:  My disgust with British politics is so high I can't listen the news any more and have to tune out. At what point will the British public snap?


They wont.

The PM just walked out without saying anything when Corbyn tabled a motion against her. Pathetic!



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This question might have been answered here, but how is leaving EU going to fix UK's migration problem and it's eventual tragic identify crisis, when most of your migrants don't come from the EU.

I get the whole calais route will be on lockdown after this as Britain has absolute control over her border. But it doesn't look like they are changing legal migration. In fact this will most likely slash EU migration and be replaced by non-eu migrants(people that Britons call asian...).
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(12-18-2018 02:09 AM)8ball Wrote:  This question might have been answered here, but how is leaving EU going to fix UK's migration problem and it's eventual tragic identify crisis, when most of your migrants don't come from the EU.

I get the whole calais route will be on lockdown after this as Britain has absolute control over her border. But it doesn't look like they are changing legal migration. In fact this will most likely slash EU migration and be replaced by non-eu migrants(people that Britons call asian...).

It's a necessary first step. How do you fix the problem when you have no way to change your own laws to contradict the EU open borders bullshit?

Without sovereignty the UK has no chance.
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(12-18-2018 02:21 AM)Malone Wrote:  
(12-18-2018 02:09 AM)8ball Wrote:  This question might have been answered here, but how is leaving EU going to fix UK's migration problem and it's eventual tragic identify crisis, when most of your migrants don't come from the EU.

I get the whole calais route will be on lockdown after this as Britain has absolute control over her border. But it doesn't look like they are changing legal migration. In fact this will most likely slash EU migration and be replaced by non-eu migrants(people that Britons call asian...).

It's a necessary first step. How do you fix the problem when you have no way to change your own laws to contradict the EU open borders bullshit?

Without sovereignty the UK has no chance.

Exactly. I've had to explain this a few times to people who just don't get it. Staying within the EU, we have no chance of securing our own borders. Being out of the EU is just an essential prerequisite to being able to control immigration.

But that won't happen either with our current politicians. I thought I had little faith in politics prior to 2016, but now? Disgust and contempt doesn't even come close.

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(12-17-2018 09:01 AM)britchard Wrote:  Boycott is the only choice. I think Leave would just about scrape a second referendum if it's held in the next year or so but any longer and the demographic clock strikes midnight.

This country is seriously fucked. On the face of it, it's good that May has said there won't be a second referendum but given her frankly abysmal governance record it's practically meaningless.

To be honest at this stage I would accept remaining in the EU if it meant we could cut non-EU, non US/Can/Aus/NZ/SA immigration to zero. That's the more immediate threat to the stability and security of this country.

Gotta be a signee of the ECHR rulings to stay in the EU.

From a non-white country that has shit politicians? You are now an Asylum seeker according to the ECHR! Open door for Non-EU migrants.

I think it was the ECHR that upheld the guilty verdict on an Austrian Lecturer who called Mohammed a paedophile ( :O !!!!) as her crime was "offensive to Muslims".

As for May, yes this is a stitch up, and there is a definite plan in place for our governing media elite.

I think what needs to be borne in mind is that she is/ was/ has been The Worst Minister/ Cabinet Minister/ Prime Minister the UK has ever had. Full stop.

Her performance on Immigration as Home Secretary (briefed to massively cut down on immigration) was the worst anyone including Occasio Cortez could have come up with - short of doing a Merkel and advertising that everybody should "Just Come!"

The only time Frau Lesbian has ever been able to tell anyone to "..Come!" and they have responded both immediately and positively to those instructions.
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Isis girl has had her citizenship revoked
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(02-19-2019 02:36 PM)IronShark Wrote:  Isis girl has had her citizenship revoked
https://www.itv.com/news/2019-02-19/sham...ws-learns/

https://twitter.com/i/status/1098564462620168192



Wish he had half of the love he has for ISIS members for ordinary British people. ???

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The head of British Police, Sara Thornton, calls for laws to allow 'positive race discrimination'.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/feb/22/police-leader-calls-for-laws-to-allow-positive-race-discrimination

Radical new laws should allow police to positively discriminate in favour of minority ethnic recruits, otherwise the ranks of officers will be too white for decades to come, the leader of Britain’s police chiefs has said.
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Tommy Robinson got banned on Facebook and Instagram within one hour after he published his documentary about BBC

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This is getting more and more ridiculous:



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This is aimed at Britsh guys who are self-defence minded.

May I suggest buying your choice of weapon before the government starts making it incredibly hard to buy manufactured items from within the UK.

This knifing problem is becoming an increasing burden on politicians and the police and I would not put it past them to start out-right banning the sale of knives, machetes and other tools online and outright criminalising anything over 3 inches regardless of your intention for it.
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(03-04-2019 06:27 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  This is aimed at Britsh guys who are self-defence minded.

May I suggest buying your choice of weapon before the government starts making it incredibly hard to buy manufactured items from within the UK.

This knifing problem is becoming an increasing burden on politicians and the police and I would not put it past them to start out-right banning the sale of knives, machetes and other tools online and outright criminalising anything over 3 inches regardless of your intention for it.

Yeah, they will 'focus' on knives. Despite the fact that they are already banned (over 3 inches in public).

Blaming knives is their only 'safe' option. The second safest option would be 'more police' but they won't do that. Not because of the fact that it won't work (of course it won't!), but because it would be too expensive. But further cracking down on knives will be a double-win for our overlords.

The real cause of this previously unheard of increase in knife murders can't be named. No politician can speak of it and expect to last the week. Also, it can't be stopped now, it will only increase.

While the politicians continue to lie and the police continue to be misled, all that's left for the remaining native populace to do is to move out of the cities, postponing things a little longer.

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You can use bladed tools as work but in Scotland it is a different matter. Using knives during camping can earn you a criminal record if found.

They could introduce outright bans altogether regardless of the consequences to other people.
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Alex Jones interviews Tommy Robinson



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(03-05-2019 09:20 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  You can use bladed tools as work but in Scotland it is a different matter. Using knives during camping can earn you a criminal record if found.

They could introduce outright bans altogether regardless of the consequences to other people.

In the absense of Saweep, I'm gonna have to pull you up on that and tell you to stop scaremongering mate.

https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives Wrote:Basic laws on knives

It’s illegal to:

sell a knife to anyone under 18, unless it has a folding blade 3 inches long (7.62 cm) or less
carry a knife in public without good reason, unless it has a folding blade with a cutting edge 3 inches long or less
carry, buy or sell any type of banned knife
use any knife in a threatening way (even a legal knife)

Scotland

In Scotland, 16 to 18 year olds are allowed to buy cutlery and kitchen knives.
Lock knives

Lock knives are not classed as folding knives and are illegal to carry in public without good reason. Lock knives:

have blades that can be locked and refolded only by pressing a button
can include multi-tool knives - tools that also contain other devices such as a screwdriver or can opener

Banned knives and weapons

It is illegal to bring into the UK, sell, hire, lend or give anyone the following:

butterfly knives (also known as ‘balisongs’) - a blade hidden inside a handle that splits in the middle
disguised knives - a blade or sharp point hidden inside what looks like everyday objects such as a buckle, phone, brush or lipstick
flick knives (also known as ‘switchblades’ or ‘automatic knives’) - a blade hidden inside a handle which shoots out when a button is pressed
gravity knives
stealth knives - a knife or spike not made from metal (except when used at home, for food or a toy)
zombie knives - a knife with a cutting edge, a serrated edge and images or words suggesting it is used for violence
swords, including samurai swords - a curved blade over 50cm (with some exceptions, such as antiques and swords made to traditional methods before 1954)
sword-sticks - a hollow walking stick or cane containing a blade
push daggers
blowpipes (‘blow gun’)
telescopic truncheons - extend automatically by pressing button or spring in the handle
batons - straight, side-handled or friction-lock truncheons
hollow kubotans - a cylinder-shaped keychain holding spikes
shurikens (also known as ‘shaken’, ‘death stars’ or ‘throwing stars’)
kusari-gama - a sickle attached to a rope, cord or wire
kyoketsu-shoge - a hook-knife attached to a rope, cord or wire
kusari (or ‘manrikigusari’) - a weight attached to a rope, cord, wire
hand or foot-claws
knuckledusters

Contact your local police to check if a knife or weapon is illegal.
Good reasons for carrying a knife or weapon

Examples of good reasons to carry a knife or weapon in public can include:

taking knives you use at work to and from work
taking it to a gallery or museum to be exhibited
if it’ll be used for theatre, film, television, historical reenactment or religious purposes, for example the kirpan some Sikhs carry
if it’ll be used in a demonstration or to teach someone how to use it

A court will decide if you’ve got a good reason to carry a knife or a weapon if you’re charged with carrying it illegally.

It's really simple. You're a chef on the way to work and have your knives in your backpack. That's fine. Same chef stops in at a pub on the way home, starts some aggro and pulls one of those knives out? Expect to have the book thrown at you.

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