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The Black Pill Question
We all have recognized the Woman Question, the Jewish Question and the Boomer Question.

Now we have to recognize another question which is important to call out:
The Black Pill Question

Most of the Black Pillers here seem to take words at face value because they equate words with actuality the moment they are said.

I also think that the level of autism is too damn high in this board because of the Black Pillers.

Now for example, Donald Trump mentioned something about red flag laws; however, no action has been taken yet on his side. It is all talk until action is applied to make it real.

It is okay to have some black pill views on the current state of the country due to the present volatility and to have backup plans just in case SHTF; however, humanity has been here before and we will pull ourselves out of it even though the price many times has been high.

My advice to the Black Pillers is to actually think in the big picture as to what is happening around them and whatever is being said by whom. I say this because we are actually in a psychological clown world bubble (Kali Yuga anyone). However, like all bubbles, they pop, and when they pop, things change. Everything goes up (or down) until it doesn't!
08-07-2019 08:20 PM
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RE: The Black Pill Question
What specifically are the black pill views that you are annoyed with?

For those views, what solution do you offer that doesn't just strike at a material benefit (sex, money, etc) but man's deeper purpose?

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RE: The Black Pill Question
"Black pillers" probably require more 'acceptance' as per the stages of grief model.

Denial Anger Bargaining Depression Acceptance.

Yes matters are off-kilter & awry at this time.
Yes your hopes & dreams did not pan out as you wished.
Probably better to rely on pragmatism & practicality, rather than emotive / depress-ive reasoning.

I say that as some one who was in a 'black pill' type state of mind, during the previous decade.
Way too invested in 'doomsday prepping' for all intents & purposes.
Problem was. After a decade of preparing for 'the big one'. Once nothing happened, I had failed to actually live life to the full & all I had to show for it was a storage room full of gear & equipment.

Said gear & equipment is still useful should mass disaster ever strike. Yet I should not have been so narrow-minded & enjoyed life a bit more during that decade.
Thankfully, I've been in a situation for this current decade to where I can 'carpe diem' for matters of health, God, family, friends & life experiences.
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RE: The Black Pill Question
The black pill is nothing less than a cold, hard look at the goings of the world around you. If you do a 360 and all you see is degeneracy, then you will naturally start to feel blackpilled, especially so if you're a man with his shit together.

However, the black pill is meant to be a temporary state of realization - a stepping stone, if you will - that one uses to move to a different environment that is significantly less degenerate. Back when I was living in the U.S., I began to feel very blackpilled at the state of things, which served as a strong motivator to haul my ass to a better place. Once I did, most of my blackpill sentiments went away, and the future begins to look quite hopeful again. The black pill is merely a product of your current environment.

The fundamental problem with most "black-pillers" is that they don't do anything about their situation; they are simply stuck at the realization stage. Either due to apathy, circumstantial restraints, or some combination of both, they are stuck in their Western shitholes, and flock to "chans" and forums like these to complain about the state of their country. I would know - once upon a time I was one of these people.

The difference between a "black-piller" and someone who takes the black pill is simply the presence of action. Realizing the truth and it's ramifications on your future is an incredibly important step in a man's growth. What one does after this point is what separates the wheat from the chaff.
08-10-2019 03:09 AM
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Frankly it depends on what kind of "black pill" you mean. According to your posts you are a firm believer in the Trump storm retaking the US and the West to new glories. But what if your view of the real power structure in the world is barely above the level of CNN? Sure - you think that you are right, but what if you are not and guys like Alan Watt (cuttingthroughthematrix.com) are far more correct?

In that case the black pill just means that radical change by voting is unlikely to come about. And since too many people are NPCs - also more the West is destroyed via more easily manipulated low-IQ masses from the 3rd world, then it's unlikely to foster any meaningful rebellion.

However - there are many guys on the black pill who are quite White Pilled in terms of their personal life, even humanity as a whole. No evil regime will last forever and theirs will fall one day as well. I personally find it far more blackpilled by the Antifa vegan sheisters who are against all Western culture, all relgion, who don't believe in a meaning for life and who want to create re-education gulags in order to create their marxist paradise on earth which of course will become just a greater hell.

Know that countries come and go - disagreeing with guys over future development does not make them worse people or "nihilistic black-pilled-losers". You can enjoy life, achieve a lot, create your own mini-tribe and culture-preservation island on your own. You can move if a culture goes down too far. If you choose to fight, then my recommendation is to put more energy into research of who you are really fighting and how deep the control grid truly is. But that is just advice and if you just want to be active within the current frame, then go for it. Tell me in 20 years how things went.
08-11-2019 08:02 AM
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RE: The Black Pill Question
(08-08-2019 02:54 PM)Roosh Wrote:  What specifically are the black pill views that you are annoyed with?

For those views, what solution do you offer that doesn't just strike at a material benefit (sex, money, etc) but man's deeper purpose?

Roosh, when I made this post about the Black Pill Question, what I wanted to address is that some of the posters posting in many threads were projecting their black pilled fears and speculations regarding topics in the Politics and Everything Else threads and trying to twist it as absolute reality. It is one thing to be realistic about how the world is (I've always known since I was little that many of the conspiracy theories out there were true because power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely) and accept that the world doesn't work as it should but it is another thing to project their black pilled views in such a way that they mean to push a message using tactics akin to psychological warfare and thus encouraging a view of learned helplessness.

Some of the views that annoyed me were present on the Donald Trump thread where many of the black pillers were making unfounded accusations as to why Donald Trump was not performing as he should. I have always pointed out that I believed he was a means to an end and knew he was not perfect. However, what got my ire was a huge amount of BS speculation, wordsmithing and message twisting from the black pillers as to why he was not keeping all of his promises and his language. Politics is a fact of life but the howling and conjecture posted by the black pillers came across as a Machiavellian tactic to ingrain learned helplessness rather than stating their opinion. Even Samseau was calling out the absurd amount of black pilled BS in the Donald Trump thread and Vox Day addressed the black piller tactics in one of his posts via his blog. The black pilling BS is even evident in other threads as well.

To get to your question, I want people to focus on the truth regarding discussion. I came here for the truth and the facts such that I gain knowledge in bettering myself and those around me because in order to make the change you want, you must improve yourself first. I have no problem with theories about how certain things may happen (and stating to the best of their ability as to why). Everyone has opinions; however, if it comes to the point where some of these posters are being Machiavellian with their viewpoints and using the black pill as a psychological warfare tool, then that is where it should be stopped!

What drew me to your forum was that people were willing to state the facts and get to the heart of the matter. I will admit that I picked up good knowledge in the Game forum but as time passed by, what really drew me here was the information being posted in the Everything Else, Life and Politics forums about relevant topics. Many posters who posted in those forums wanted to know the truth about how the world works and from there, engage in a process of self improvement to make themselves better first and create a "butterfly effect" and make others improve around them. I have always liked this forum and I think you are doing God's work in giving men across all races, classes and creeds the ability to speak their minds and to come to the truth via this platform; however, I am always aware that some individuals have their "agendas" and some may even be malicious in nature.
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RE: The Black Pill Question
It’s not comfortable and it can be depressing but the Black Pill stage is necessary. Before this forum changed its ethos, I suspected the Black Pill is biblical and possibly what the old timers called “the conviction of the Holy Spirit”.

1 blue pill : The Song of Solomon
2 red pill: The Proverbs
3 black pill: Ecclesiastes

At the end of Ecclesiastes, Solomon concludes that the meaning of it all is to honour God and to enjoy the fruits of one’s labour. This seems to be where this forum has reached. Paradoxically the black pilled and cynical tone of Ecclesiastes took away my black pilled depression.

I mean read this very modern translation:

Ecclesiastes 7:26-29 Wrote:26 I found that some women are worse than death and are as dangerous as traps. Their love is like a net, and their arms hold men like chains. A man who pleases God will be saved from them, but a sinner will be caught by them. 27 The Teacher says, "This is what I learned: I added all these things together to find some meaning for everything. 28 While I was searching, I did not find one man among the thousands I found. Nor did I find a woman among all these. 29 One thing I have learned: God made people good, but they have found all kinds of ways to be bad."

This tells me that unless guided by the Holy Spirit, I shouldn’t entertain the idea of marriage given that there is more social stigma against spinsters than multiple divorcées.

It was the black pill that gave me the power to quit alcohol. My eyes were opened to its lies and all the perceived social benefits of it were false. I didn’t need to go to AA because the black pill and the reasoned and logical urging of the Allen Carr courses gave me the black pilled hatred of the alcoholic matrix.

Don't spend all your energy on sex and all your money on women; they have destroyed kings. (Proverbs 31:3 GNB)
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RE: The Black Pill Question
Currently going through major black pill and I want help to overcome it.

I think that the left have destroyed the west forever and that there is no turning back because demographically the west has been changed forever. Basically this thought started Halloween last Thursday night when I was at a friend’s place. We were just hanging out drinking at his house (in a suburb in Washington DC) while he handed out candy to kids that came over. I saw his neighbors were black and also participating in this cultural event when something hit me about my past.

I grew up in a suburb in Toronto and participated in Halloween throughout my childhood. We had a house and my dad would take me and my 2 brothers for candy while my mom would hand out treats. I would meet up with friends who lived in my very diverse neighborhood. Then once i grew older I started to hand out candy in high school. But it was grade 10 when I realized something. There would be high school kids I knew that would be at my door and they always were either the black, Somali or other Muslim kids I knew. I thought it was childish because they were too old and they should be handing out candy. But at Grade 10 I realized; their families never gave out candy.

Basically I started to think about the major thought process that went around these ethnic ghettos in Toronto. Unlike most of you guys, I was part of the Muslim community and I always understood the subconscious of the community; use whitey. Whether it was in school were all the ethnic kids would cheat to get into their university of choice (there are ethnic private schools were you can buy grades), then cheat in that university to pass. Whether it was to cheat and play government systems made for actual people in need. Whether it was in order to gain employment at some company but be under qualified. Heck even to feed their sexual desires and fornicate with white women in order to keep their women pure. It all came down to abuse the white person system of trust in society.

This whole ideology of abuse starts when as kids we are not taught to be good citizens in society but just to look after my tribe in this foreign land. It all starts with taking candy from stupid whitey and never being a giver. Candy is not expensive to hand out (my friends spent 40 dollars worth and was set for the whole night) but the thought of giving it out in order to promote society values is priceless.

I will give credit to the Indian and Chinese folks who do try to follow some of the customs (eg like giving out candy in Halloween) but they still followed some of the other negatives I outlined. However with the recent election in Canada and how far they have demographically changed; I feel like the west is gone forever.
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^The West we had before is gone, but there will be more things like it - hopefully having improved upon former models of Western Civilization - in the future. What we have now isn’t going to turn back into what America used to have, but after one of two likely possibilities happens, namely peaceful separation of Left and Right or civil war between them, smaller communities will emerge that provide the benefits we all want. We will probably not live to see it, because we haven’t even really started that transition yet, but we are in the unique position of being able to plant trees that future generations can sit beneath in peaceful shade. It’s only blackpilling if you don’t realize this has happened countless times before and will always happen in the great rhythm of things, and if you haven’t yet found your unique role of contribution. Once you find God and your role in all this, life will become something you never imagined it could be: meaningful.

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(11-05-2019 01:20 AM)for.petes.sake Wrote:  Currently going through major black pill and I want help to overcome it.

I think that the left have destroyed the west forever and that there is no turning back because demographically the west has been changed forever. Basically this thought started Halloween last Thursday night when I was at a friend’s place. We were just hanging out drinking at his house (in a suburb in Washington DC) while he handed out candy to kids that came over. I saw his neighbors were black and also participating in this cultural event when something hit me about my past.

I grew up in a suburb in Toronto and participated in Halloween throughout my childhood. We had a house and my dad would take me and my 2 brothers for candy while my mom would hand out treats. I would meet up with friends who lived in my very diverse neighborhood. Then once i grew older I started to hand out candy in high school. But it was grade 10 when I realized something. There would be high school kids I knew that would be at my door and they always were either the black, Somali or other Muslim kids I knew. I thought it was childish because they were too old and they should be handing out candy. But at Grade 10 I realized; their families never gave out candy.

Basically I started to think about the major thought process that went around these ethnic ghettos in Toronto. Unlike most of you guys, I was part of the Muslim community and I always understood the subconscious of the community; use whitey. Whether it was in school were all the ethnic kids would cheat to get into their university of choice (there are ethnic private schools were you can buy grades), then cheat in that university to pass. Whether it was to cheat and play government systems made for actual people in need. Whether it was in order to gain employment at some company but be under qualified. Heck even to feed their sexual desires and fornicate with white women in order to keep their women pure. It all came down to abuse the white person system of trust in society.

This whole ideology of abuse starts when as kids we are not taught to be good citizens in society but just to look after my tribe in this foreign land. It all starts with taking candy from stupid whitey and never being a giver. Candy is not expensive to hand out (my friends spent 40 dollars worth and was set for the whole night) but the thought of giving it out in order to promote society values is priceless.

I will give credit to the Indian and Chinese folks who do try to follow some of the customs (eg like giving out candy in Halloween) but they still followed some of the other negatives I outlined. However with the recent election in Canada and how far they have demographically changed; I feel like the west is gone forever.

Countries like Canada and the US are as good as gone. You have to look into the future - in later stages no one will give out candy and the perky diversity grifting will be gone. Then it will turn into a shithole or become something very close to Brazil.

The same will happen to the UK, Netherlands, France, Germany, Austria, Sweden.

The people make the country and the nation - not the flag and not even the language.

The West will be relegated and ultimately destroyed by diversity. A few countries in Europe may survive. The ethno-states of China, Japan, Taiwan and Korea - they will lead this world civilization forward for the next centuries. And they will learn from the collapse of the West and likely purge the little diversity they have later on.
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I don't agree. Spain was once caliphate territory and then it wasn't. Muslims are moving in now. Later they may be gone. The same people that flock to white nations while the grifting is good will leave or be forced out when the system collapses and the well of social good-will runs dry.

The Germans being flooded with rapefugees are the same people that rolled over Europe by blood and steel. The Spanish likewise are the same that tossed the caliphate out on its ass.

We're very nice people, until we're not. And a couple hundred years later we go back to being nice and start letting the people in whose descendants we will also march into the sea.

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< Europe around the year 1400 or even 1950 was highly different. The mentality was intact. In the Balkans - when the Ottomans lost power they kicked out Muslims who had been living there for centuries. They didn't give two shits - probably should have kicked out more or forced them to convert.

The mentalities have changed dramatically - and in addition - the power-structure of that time was backing them up. Now the power structure is pure globohomo - they will never back you up. They will send the military against you and give the soldiers some simplistic explanation or stage a false flag in order to bring them on board.

Let's assume that a part of the remaining Western population wants to split off. You simply do 5 huge false flags with tens of thousands of dead, find some "Nazi" patsies and then send off most of the military to wipe it all out. Then double or triple the military's wages to bring them on board. Meanwhile you ban and shut down dissenting information all across the internet and publish only yours - all forums gone and all opposition gone. The revolution will be gone before it can reach any significant stage.

Nah - it's not comparable to anything that has happened in the past. The West is as good as gone. But whatever - Australia's future as a Chinese colony isn't so bad if you compare it with the US, Canada or France.
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If it were that easy then we wouldn't be having this discussion. If the elites were so powerful then the Yellow Vest protests would never have gotten off the ground.

They are far from invincible and God himself can undo their plans with the flick of a switch.

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The Yellow Vests are on par with the democratic civil discourse - they can't massacre them willy-nilly as the resistance is peaceful but strong. They do it silently without media attention and cracking down on them via legal battles, night-time arrests and the like. Plus - most of those people are hardly aware of the full scope of the issue. They only react to what hurts the most now. Too many French still vote in for the traitors. They would really have a fighting chance if 70% of them chose LePen.

I don't see any population truly aware of the issue in record numbers. Even Hungary or Poland despite the strong right bent is only that way due to communist experience, good options available, some part due to strong religion among the old. So it's more circumstance and less globohomo indoctrination. The younger ones however are far more nihilistic and bend to the will of the elite. The aware people there are also at best 10%.
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Again, movements pushing change do not need a magical democratic 51% to win or even just to bring down the current regime.

It would take a mere 1% of Western men to finally hoist the black flag before the country they rebelled in was brought to its knees. How quickly we forget Christopher Dorner. Imagine a thousand of him in every city and you might begin to get an idea of how trivial a concern democracy is. Democracy was never relevant anyway. You could get 99% support for your future vision and the elites would just buy/blackmail your elected representative into submission. The sooner democracy is dead the better.

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Personally this NiGGoy is CLEAR PILLED.Noworry

   

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