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Race on job applications
I've had some hard times lately, messed up my back in the early summer had to quit my job got hooked on pills again went to rehab, physical therapy (TMI) now I'm back on track... Anyways I'm applying for manager positions at stores as my money is running low (I have experience years ago...)

For race... White, hispanic (Italian/Sicilian descent, quarter Anglo ethnically I am culturally an extremely white American though as I'm 2 generations removed) or prefer not to disclose?

(Haven't posted as I'm extremely focused on staying off the pills with AA 1-2 times daily and constant excercise)
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RE: Race on job applications
You can say white or hispanic. I think how well you come off in the interviews and so long as your past references check out, you should be fine. Good luck, sorry about your back.

Whatever you do, do not mention AA or your addiction to pills/liquor or anything else in any of these interviews or while at work.

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RE: Race on job applications
I've always thought it was strange that they ask us for our race and gender on job applications, but then say their company doesn't discriminate based on race or gender. If they didn't, they wouldn't ask about it in the first place. Seems like a way to stick it to whitey, and hire based on someone's color instead of merit. They've got to get those diversity hires to please the bureaucrats.

Hope everything works out, and glad you're doing better now. Being addicted to booze, pills or whatever is no fun. Also, smaller companies usually don't ask about nonsense like race on their applications.
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RE: Race on job applications
I think it's for statistical purposes to get gov contracts and to defend against lawsuits but god knows what they do with it.

You can always select other and claim to be half chosen (a not so tiny number of Israelis have zero distinguishing features from euro goys)

As a European it totally creeps me out. Nobody would ever ask you for race or gender on a job application form in Europe...
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(12-03-2019 03:52 AM)SomeOneSomeWhere Wrote:  I think it's for statistical purposes to get gov contracts and to defend against lawsuits but god knows what they do with it.

You can always select other and claim to be half chosen (a not so tiny number of Israelis have zero distinguishing features from euro goys)

As a European it totally creeps me out. Nobody would ever ask you for race or gender on a job application form in Europe...

They do in the UK.
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RE: Race on job applications
Say you are hispanic or black if you can get away with it.
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(12-03-2019 01:11 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Say you are hispanic or black if you can get away with it.

Why? Blacks/Latinos of comparable skills get fewer callbacks than equally qualified Whites, at least in the US. He'd be shooting himself in the foot to do that.

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RE: Race on job applications
That's not actually true, and statistically the most likely person to get a callback is a white female.

Companies in the US that do business with the federal government (most large corporations) need to comply with diversity quotas. The groups that count for diversity quotes are racial minority (any one of the categories you see listed on a form), women, and honorably discharged military veterans. Being in any one of those categories gives you a strong advantage especially if you have a WASPy name but have brown eyes and can come up with some story about having hispanic heritage.
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(12-03-2019 10:17 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 01:11 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Say you are hispanic or black if you can get away with it.

Why? Blacks/Latinos of comparable skills get fewer callbacks than equally qualified Whites, at least in the US. He'd be shooting himself in the foot to do that.

Nope - only when you have a ghetto name. John Washington who grew up in Compton and has a good education will get preferance over the oppressive class.

And even that is rather an older study they did, but picking Jamal over John did not do any favors.

Companies have to comply with a shit-ton of quotas and a black woman is going to have the highest ratio in the US - if she fits the minimum criteria.
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(12-03-2019 10:34 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  That's not actually true, and statistically the most likely person to get a callback is a white female.

Whatever you do, OP do not tell them you are a white female

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(12-03-2019 12:56 PM)the-dream Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 03:52 AM)SomeOneSomeWhere Wrote:  I think it's for statistical purposes to get gov contracts and to defend against lawsuits but god knows what they do with it.

You can always select other and claim to be half chosen (a not so tiny number of Israelis have zero distinguishing features from euro goys)

As a European it totally creeps me out. Nobody would ever ask you for race or gender on a job application form in Europe...

They do in the UK.

Never been there but given that Londonistan is majority non white already it doesn't surprise me...
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RE: Race on job applications
(12-04-2019 03:46 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 10:17 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 01:11 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Say you are hispanic or black if you can get away with it.

Why? Blacks/Latinos of comparable skills get fewer callbacks than equally qualified Whites, at least in the US. He'd be shooting himself in the foot to do that.

Nope - only when you have a ghetto name. John Washington who grew up in Compton and has a good education will get preferance over the oppressive class.

And even that is rather an older study they did, but picking Jamal over John did not do any favors.

Companies have to comply with a shit-ton of quotas and a black woman is going to have the highest ratio in the US - if she fits the minimum criteria.

Can you provide a link to the study you're referencing?

(08-18-2016 12:05 PM)dicknixon72 Wrote:  ...and nothing quite surprises me anymore. If I looked out my showroom window and saw a fully-nude woman force-fucking an alligator with a strap-on while snorting xanex on the roof of her rental car with her three children locked inside with the windows rolled up, I wouldn't be entirely amazed.
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(12-09-2019 07:02 AM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  
(12-04-2019 03:46 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 10:17 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 01:11 PM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  Say you are hispanic or black if you can get away with it.

Why? Blacks/Latinos of comparable skills get fewer callbacks than equally qualified Whites, at least in the US. He'd be shooting himself in the foot to do that.

Nope - only when you have a ghetto name. John Washington who grew up in Compton and has a good education will get preferance over the oppressive class.

And even that is rather an older study they did, but picking Jamal over John did not do any favors.

Companies have to comply with a shit-ton of quotas and a black woman is going to have the highest ratio in the US - if she fits the minimum criteria.

Can you provide a link to the study you're referencing?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/black-names...me-burden/

You can probably find the studies.

Quote:The other, however, suggests a black-sounding name remains an impediment to getting a job. After responding to 1,300 classified ads with dummy resumes, the authors found black-sounding names were 50 percent less likely to get a callback than white-sounding names with comparable resumes.

Even despite all the attempts of being anti-racist - it is common sense to not pick names that are popular in the ghettos or low-income areas. Even if you want to stay true to your roots going into African origins - why not pick unique names that have zero association with a low-class demographic? As a White couple you are not doing your son or daughter any favors naming them Earlene, Billy-Bob, Tammy-Lynn or Dakota either.
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American Indian has worked for some folks. If you send your stuff to Ancestry.com, their testing is so imprecise you'll probrably qualify as at least 1/1000th native.
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RE: Race on job applications
I always put Latino/Hispanic. I've never been asked but I speak Spanish and I could always pretend my Italian last name is Argentinian. I know a guy who looks totally white, has a WASPy surname and speaks 0 Spanish. He has a Puerto Rican mother and has always put down Latino for everything as long as I've known him, and he's never been asked. He currently works for the government.

I can't say for certain that it works, but I doubt it hurts as long as you're not applying to some small privately-owned business in a very white community.
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The job applications I've filled out in the past always have some kind of language along the lines of "this information will not be attached to your application." Its anybody's guess if that is true or not.
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Hmmm...why not try putting down "Jewish". Who is ever going to challenge that and risk being called an anti-semite? If its a check the box form, cross white out and write "jewish" then they'll be paranoid that they are about to be race baited.

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(01-13-2020 05:47 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  Hmmm...why not try putting down "Jewish". Who is ever going to challenge that and risk being called an anti-semite? If its a check the box form, cross white out and write "jewish" then they'll be paranoid that they are about to be race baited.

Bingo. Myself and other friends are jewish enough to pass as actual jews. People who are jewish are usually just white and literally no one will know.

You also get to take extra holidays off when everyone else has to work too.
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(01-13-2020 05:47 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  Hmmm...why not try putting down "Jewish". Who is ever going to challenge that and risk being called an anti-semite? If its a check the box form, cross white out and write "jewish" then they'll be paranoid that they are about to be race baited.

That's hilarious.

Other Jews might ask, but you could claim your maternal grandma is Jewish and "you're reconnecting with your heritage."

Don't get caught though.
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(01-18-2020 11:18 AM)VNvet Wrote:  
(01-13-2020 05:47 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  Hmmm...why not try putting down "Jewish". Who is ever going to challenge that and risk being called an anti-semite? If its a check the box form, cross white out and write "jewish" then they'll be paranoid that they are about to be race baited.

That's hilarious.

Other Jews might ask, but you could claim your maternal grandma is Jewish and "you're reconnecting with your heritage."

Don't get caught though.

If another Jew asked, I'd ask them why/who gave them authority to look at my confidential job application. if I really got pressed I'd say I converted and was a messianic Jew. Who is going to want to step into that pile of trouble and start the argument of if its a race or religion or both or separate.

If I did get caught though, I'd call it the Jewcahonatas fiasco.

It does remind me of a slightly similar story though. I worked with a guy who was half Chinese and having any asians working in the far north was really rare at that time. So, a bunch of indians (native Canadians) from the local reservation show up to work on the same job site and for days are treating this half chinese guy like they are best friends.

It dawned on us that they assumed he was an indian too. The chinese guy cleared it up for them, and from that point on they left him alone and stopped offering him soda and smokes on the job site. He got the whitey treatment like the rest of us for the rest of the job.

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(01-21-2020 09:27 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  
(01-18-2020 11:18 AM)VNvet Wrote:  
(01-13-2020 05:47 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  Hmmm...why not try putting down "Jewish". Who is ever going to challenge that and risk being called an anti-semite? If its a check the box form, cross white out and write "jewish" then they'll be paranoid that they are about to be race baited.

That's hilarious.

Other Jews might ask, but you could claim your maternal grandma is Jewish and "you're reconnecting with your heritage."

Don't get caught though.

If another Jew asked, I'd ask them why/who gave them authority to look at my confidential job application. if I really got pressed I'd say I converted and was a messianic Jew. Who is going to want to step into that pile of trouble and start the argument of if its a race or religion or both or separate.

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RE: Race on job applications
I'm from Argentina, 180cm, blond hair and blue eyes. Of the chosen ppl, bene to the promised land and everything. I always put white cause I'm originally European. I just feel I don't meet the color chart requirements to put Latino.

After reading the thread tho I might put Jewish if you guys think it will help, or fuck it even Latino. You guys really think this will give me an edge on bulge bracket banks and consulting firms in the US?
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