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North Idaho Datasheet
North Idaho, or the Idaho Panhandle was the focus of a 3 day trip to asses properties and the livelihood of various small towns.

Quote:The Idaho Panhandle is the northern region of the U.S. state of Idaho that encompasses the state's ten northernmost counties: Benewah, Bonner, Boundary, Clearwater, Idaho, Kootenai, Latah, Lewis, Nez Perce, and Shoshone. Residents of the Panhandle refer to the region as North Idaho, though the southern part of the region is sometimes referred to as North Central Idaho. The Panhandle is bordered by the state of Washington to the west, Montana to the east, and the Canadian province of British Columbia to the north.

Coeur d'Alene is the largest city within the Idaho Panhandle. Spokane, Washington is around 30 miles (48 km) west of Coeur d'Alene, and is also the location of the regional airport, Spokane International Airport. Other important cities in the region include Lewiston, Moscow, Post Falls, Hayden, Sandpoint, and the smaller towns of St. Maries and Bonners Ferry. East of Coeur d'Alene is the Silver Valley, which follows Interstate 90 to the Montana border at Lookout Pass.

The region has a land area of 21,012.64 square miles (54,422.5 km2), around 25.4% of the state's total land area; there is also 323.95 square miles (839.0 km2) of water area. As of the 2010 Census, the population of the Idaho Panhandle was 317,751, around 20.3% of the state's total population of 1,567,582.[2]

The Idaho Panhandle observes Pacific Time north of the western-flowing Salmon River in the southern part of Idaho County. The rest of the state to the south observes Mountain Time, which begins at Riggins. Though the Idaho Panhandle is at the same longitude as southern Idaho, the reasons for the different time zones are: (1) because Spokane is the commercial and transportation center for the region, and (2) there are many cross-border towns and cities that are connected, led by Spokane with Coeur d'Alene and Post Falls, followed by Pullman (home of Washington State University) with Moscow (home of the University of Idaho), and Clarkston with Lewiston.

The Panhandle is isolated from southern Idaho due to distance and the east-west mountain ranges that naturally separate the state. The passage by vehicle was arduous until significant highway improvements were made on U.S. Route 95 in North Central Idaho (specifically at White Bird Hill, Lawyer's Canyon, Lapwai Canyon and the Lewiston grade) from 1965 through 1995.

You know you're in Idaho when you go out shitlording wearing a Trump hat and OCing a G19 and get nothing but props, smiles, and high fives.

General Social Dynamic - First, I will posit that Idaho is more relationship biased than SNL/ONS/ZDB.

Many small towns in Idaho are multi generational and as such very cliquish. People are of course very friendly but breaking into a social circle here will be impossible unless you invest heavily. Therefore the areas with more tourists and transients will be more accepting to newcomers. CDA, Moscow, and maybe Sandpoint are the smallest I would recommend. If you have a girl/wife already and want a nice quiet place to settle down in then Priest River, Harrison, St. Maries, Bonner's Ferry, or Post Falls are good looking choices that I visited and am considering buying in.

N. Idaho Men - Alphas everywhere. Lot of guys have beards and wear flannel and boots because they actually cut down trees or raise cattle for a living. Mostly gun/outdoor type of guys. I assume they are fairly secure in their position in the local marketplace because I didnt perceive any hostility, more of a guarded curiosity. They are competition solely because of their personality types and inherent status.

N. Idaho Women - Extremely feminine, friendly, and family oriented. They don't just talk the talk of hunting, fishing, and ranching. They grew up in the life and definitely respond positively to masculinity. If you aren't in one of the above demographics you better bring something more interesting to the table (my "Im a veteran looking to relocate" spiel worked well). Mostly thin and athletic, but definitely a contingent of "cornfed" girls too if thats your thing. There are 3 types of girls that I noticed: locals, tourists, and seasonals, each with their own angles. Here the SJW/feminist with blue hair and face piercings is still something that is looked at with curiosity rather than something to emulate. If all you have experienced is the vapid women of liberal population centers, you will be pleasantly surprised - as I was - by the quality here.

Coeur d'Alene (CDA), pop 45,000

Quote:The Coeur d'Alene Resort takes up a prominent portion of the city's downtown. It is also located near two major ski resorts: Silver Mountain Resort to the east in Kellogg, and Schweitzer Mountain Ski Resort to the north in Sandpoint.

Coeur d'Alene's retail has expanded greatly in recent years with the opening of new stores and entertainment venues. Coeur d'Alene's Riverstone development houses a 14-theater Regal Cinemas, condominiums, a Hampton Inn, a park, restaurants, and local retailers. The North Idaho Centennial Trail bike path cuts through the Riverstone complex alongside an abandoned railroad right of way. The Citylink transit system adjoins the northwest entrance of the Riverstone complex.

Giant statues of bird feathers line Northwest Boulevard, celebrating the rich heritage associated with the Coeur d'Alene Tribe. Art galleries and cafes are located along Sherman Avenue, Coeur d'Alene's main street. During summer, artists and musicians frequent Sherman Square.

In 2009, Coeur d'Alene ranked No. 12 on Newsmax magazine's list of the "Top 25 Most Uniquely American Cities and Towns,"

Impression: CDA is a small city with most amenities that you need and have come to expect, all near a huge lake and vast mountain wilderness. Spokane provides international air travel and a "big city" to the area. In nice weather there are many people walking and running by the lake and downtown areas. Water sports are very popular here in the summer, giving an incentive for girls to maintain a beach ready body. There are a good number of both seasonal and tourists here so there are fresh faces on a recurring basis.

Lodging

Coeur d'Alene Resort - Focal point of the city center. Right on the lake, has bars, restaurants, a marina, shopping, etc. Rooms are expensive and outdated, but it is the best place to be if you are going downtown.

Fitness

Ultimate Athlete Gym Strength training based gym with barbells, 4x rogue squat racks, Olympic bumpers, chains, bands.

Crossfit CDA Typical crossfit box.

Food/drink

Crafted tap house + kitchen - Bar, inside/outside seating areas. 50 beers on tap. Mostly groups of late 20's  and up, 4-5 groups of girls of varying ages, some families. Few fire pits outside. Crowded, waits for tables

Filling station on 5th - Small place, dozen seats, couple tvs, 2 dz taps, quiet. Bar wing of collective kitchen public house.

Collective kitchen public house - restaurant wing of filling station

Crickets oyster bar and grill - Small seafood place with poor drinks and a tourist clientele.

Iron Horse Bar - Typical small town bar with live music, darts, etc. The girls were of noticeably lesser quality here.

Moose Lounge Much better than Iron Horse, half the clientele was decent looking country girls.

Beacon Pub - Decent bar, shuffleboard and pool tables, was a sausage fest when I went.

The Cellar @ 317 - Decent Restaurant and bar upstairs, lounge w/live music downstairs. As the name implies it is themed more as a wine bar. Limited cocktail listing. Good food with an older more well off crowd, several pairs/groups of cougars.

Lakeview Lounge - Upscale bar attached to Beverlys restaurant On 7th floor of Coeur d'Alene Resort. Fairly respectable liquor selection including the complete range of macallan, JW, glenmorangie, a couple PVW's. Greater number of non hotel guests than Whispers bar. Clientele definitely more affluent and older, 30+. Several pairs of cougars

Whispers - Bar in the resort. Marina view, full bar. Mostly hotel guests, low energy.

Bistro on Spruce - Stopped in for brunch, wine bar vibe inside. Good food.

CDA Downtown Association
Visit Idaho - CDA
CDA.org
CDA Wiki

Sidebar: Sandpoint, pop 7,000 - CDA's weird little sister to the north on Lake Pend O'Reille. Artsy, hippy, liberal-ish, a bit snobby.

Sandpoint Wiki
Visit Sandpoint
Visit North Idaho - Sandpoint


Moscow, pop 24,000

Quote:It is the principal city in the Moscow, Idaho Micropolitan Statistical Area, which includes all of Latah County. The city contains over 60% of the county's population and while the university is the dominant employer in Moscow, the city also serves as an agricultural and commercial hub for the Palouse region.

Moscow is centered around the University of Idaho. It is about 45% female.

Quote:Enrollment stats
11,534 Enrollment
8,834 Full-Time Students
4,655 Female Students
5,596 Male Students

2015-2016 Tuition
$7,020 in-state
$21,024 out-of-state

Impression: I knew this place was different the moment I rolled into the city. Gents, I'm going on record here: THIS is the place to be, maybe in all of Idaho. Moscow is smack dab in the middle of the Palouse Hills farming region. So picture a university plucked out of Iowa and plopped down in northern Idaho. After every turn I took there seemed to be bikers with American flags streaming, old farmers wearing Trump hats, and petite blond girls with pigtails driving beat up old pick up trucks. One street has bars, the next combine and tractor dealerships. Also noted (throughout Idaho really) a preponderance of complete families i.e. Husband and wife in proper role and curious but generally well behaved children. Both parents seem to be genuinely happy with their kids and not dismissively ignorant like in a bigger liberal city. The thing is, school is even out for the summer so I am eager to go back when classes are in session to get a feel for it when at capacity. There was a noticeable increase in the amount of hipster/SJW looking people but they were not militant in the least, they were content to stay to themselves. At this latitude the sun doesn't set until about 9 in the summers so people are generally happy and high energy at the start of the evenings. Lots of NRA, Trump, 2A, and patriotic clothing worn by men and women alike. Didn't plan on meeting up with anyone but synced tinder anyway. Matches skyrocketed from 2-3 a day to 15 over fri-sat, 3 girls opened me straight away. All early 20's cute feminine and outdoorsy.

Lodging

Fairfield Inn - Really good military rate. Helpful front desk staff gave me some decent intel on some local hidden gems.  3/4 mi walk to the downtown district where everything is. The Idaho Inn is slightly closer but not as nice with fewer amenities.

Fitness

North Idaho Athletic Club - Crossfit/strength style gym on Main St.

Food/drink

CD's pit BBQ - Awesome place. Open carry discount, full size copy of the constitution on the wall, patriot flags hanging from the ceiling. Good brisket, better ribs.

Moscow Alehouse - Restaurant/bar with outdoor seating area. Dozen or so beers on tap. Low energy atmosphere save for a huge group of diverse liberal looking and sounding people, had one beer and left.

Maialina - Wine and wood fired pizza bar. Live jazz. Quiet atmosphere, chill spot. Mostly families at 9 pm. $40 for an app, pizza, dessert, and 2x glasses of wine.

Champions Sports Bar - too many guys, some nasty lizards.

Garden Lounge - just passed by, looked low energy so I skipped.

Tapped Taphouse and Kitchen - New spot, 35 taps. Decent crowd, some couples, individual groups of guys and girls.

Mingles - Huge billiards bar, good mix of students and locals. Good energy, nice guy/girl ratio.

John’s Alley Bar -Live music, few really cute girls but mostly guys.

Bucers Coffeehouse Pub. Small quiet spot, dark lighting. Nerdy crowd of bookworms and suspected communists.

Corner club - Pretty good crowd that may have exceeded fire code, lively. Good ratio.

Bloom - Breakfast spot on Main St. Good food, outside seating for people watching/shitlording.

University of Idaho
University of Idaho Wiki
Moscow Chamber of Commerce


In closing, Idaho is a veritable red pill paradise where the men are men and the women are women. If you are looking for a LTR/wife or to raise a family, this is the place I would do it. It lags the rest of the country in social regression by 30+ years. For short term gaming, it can be a challenge however. If any locals have anything to add that Ive missed or misunderstood, feel free to share. Im looking forward to my next trip there.
(This post was last modified: 07-26-2016 08:13 PM by Adonis.)
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