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RE: Orthodox Conversion
(08-10-2019 08:55 AM)Kid Twist Wrote:  These are good questions, and should be asked and discussed, but I notice that you are missing my point from several paragraphs ago. If "believing in evolution" means that I doubt the orthodox doctrine and practice, then it will tend to be a problem. But notice that this point deals with how one is worrying, detailing, or confessing said "scientific" questions.

Please let me repeat, the Bible is about first God preparing the way for the God-man to save the world and as a result, bringing forth the "Gospel" (evangelion), literally that which the King (God) has done for us (defeated the enemies, including the last one, death) and how we should receive Him.

You keep looking at it with a historic, forensic lens. It is not a scientific manual.

Everything else is, while certainly interesting to us humans, just speculation.

As a final point, I am totally fine with you having strong opinions about the creation of man, whatever they are. But even those mean nothing if we aren't obedient, take up our cross, and follow. We have our communion in that, not in our vain speculations, however interesting they may be.


The Bible is not primarily intended as an exhaustive science textbook, but it does provide us with certain facts about the world and those facts must accepted as true, as they come from God. They should be a starting point for any study of science or study of the natural world.
If God proclaims certain truths about the natural world, we are to accept those truths as a foundation for our study of the natural world. Any manmade methodologies for studying nature and the world must first start with God’s truths and go from there. We are not permitted to adopt our own truth that conflicts with what God has already established.

I would reject the claim made by some that the Bible is not a historical text. It does claim to be history and provide historical accounts of events. In fact its chronological precision is quite remarkable, as it lists the ages of various individuals and allows one to trace genealogy from Jesus back to creation. A chronological written history generally provides a more precise record and is easier to interpret than fossils, ancient pots, bones, etc...

I agree that we should be obedient, take up the cross, and follow. But if one is free to reject the Genesis account that leaves one free to reject other scriptural teachings as well.

By the way I recently came across an article about orthodox apologist Kallistos Ware. It said he supports homosexual marriage and women’s ordination. This was disappointing as I thought he had led many people to Eastern Orthodoxy, and I was thinking of buying his books. It appears that there are liberal and conservative wings not just in Protestantism and Catholicism, but Orthodoxy as well. Orthodoxy doesn’t seem to be immune from that.
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Orthodox Conversion - Dragan - 11-29-2017, 10:57 PM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - EndsExpect - 11-29-2017, 11:56 PM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - Dragan - 11-30-2017, 12:08 AM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - Laska - 11-30-2017, 01:20 AM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - stugatz - 11-30-2017, 03:30 AM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - Kid Twist - 11-30-2017, 01:24 PM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - Tony_Flame - 12-01-2017, 01:48 AM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - Laska - 12-01-2017, 12:52 PM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - Kid Twist - 12-01-2017, 10:26 PM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - Jetset - 12-02-2017, 10:11 AM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - buja - 12-09-2017, 10:36 PM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - The Beast1 - 12-11-2017, 01:37 AM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - Noir - 12-01-2017, 02:51 AM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - Dragan - 12-01-2017, 12:06 PM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - Laska - 12-01-2017, 12:31 PM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - Dragan - 12-01-2017, 12:36 PM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - Kid Twist - 12-02-2017, 11:59 AM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - IronShark - 12-05-2017, 09:33 PM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - Kid Twist - 12-06-2017, 08:48 PM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - Nacho - 12-07-2017, 02:57 AM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - Dragan - 12-09-2017, 08:59 PM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - Nacho - 12-09-2017, 11:08 PM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - Nacho - 12-11-2017, 09:45 PM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - The Beast1 - 12-11-2017, 10:49 PM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - Sisyphus - 12-11-2017, 11:56 PM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - Nacho - 12-12-2017, 01:59 AM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - MichaelWitcoff - 01-13-2019, 11:40 PM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - jcrew247 - 07-04-2019, 01:31 PM
RE: Orthodox Conversion - Kid Twist - 07-05-2019, 06:12 PM
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