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The Miley Cyrus trainwreck
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RE: The Miley Cyrus trainwreck
I used to do music writing and knew scads of managers, publicists, and recording artists.

Her quotes read like they were designed by a publicist with the intent of recasting her image. Pop stars like Miley can become yesterday's news real fast when times change. The #metoo era made her-your-face sexuality seem dated.

So my guess is they wrote her up some talking points to tie her into what's going on now.

Whenever you look at major label recording artists (Miley, Katy, Taylor), it's important to realize they're not much different than corporate sales executives. They are not free spirits. They are employees who are expected to "produce" for the company.

As such, their moves and speeches are generally planned in advance. If something seems "outrageous," it's most likely planned to be a "disrupter," as they say in corporate speak.

With major label pop, there isn't just a "man behind the curtain." There is a corporate team behind the curtain. These people research trends in politics, pop, and fashion and tailor the artist's image accordingly.

As with politicians, pop stars are given talking points. And in the case of big magazines, writers are told what they can and can't discuss with the artists and are given massive PR info sheets with info that amounts to talking points.

What if a writer doesn't want to play the game? He or she doesn't get the big interviews and another Ivy League grad with parental connections gets the plum assignments. You either go along with things or you go back to working for the community papers. (Or in my case, you end up commenting here.)

If you want to hear recording artists who are truly free, listen to musicians who put out their own music or record for indie labels. Or listen to pre-1985 music -- back when pop stars were more free to do what they wanted. Major labels made marketing an art starting around 1985.

The big changes came with Bon Jovi and Madonna. Both these artists were among the first to employ people to do things like track the demographics of their concertgoers and album buyers so they could put out future releases accordingly. If you've ever wondered things like "Why did Bon Jovi release so many ballads as singles in the '80s?" it's because their marketing surveys showed too many males were attending concerts and they needed to bring in female ticket buyers, which ballads tended to do. Seriously.

PS: Belle Delphine and a number of other social media stars are also corporate creations. This is another topic for another day, but social media stars are the new major label pop stars. They're individuals whose "spontaneity" is choreographed by teams of executives.

Some of the PR firms I used to deal with listed social media "sensations" as clients -- and this was as far back as 2011. If it was corporate then, you can only imagine what's going on now.
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The Miley Cyrus trainwreck - Roosh - 08-26-2013, 08:42 AM
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