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Reframing your mind to battle depression and CBT
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RE: Reframing your mind to battle depression and CBT
(10-23-2013 12:09 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  
(10-23-2013 12:06 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  You must learn to control your mind!

That might sound a little crazy but that is exactly what you need to do!

Control your thoughts.

If you are talking about a chemical-imbalance type of depression that is impossible.

It simply doesn't work that way.

Health care practitioners who've seen thousands of patients see clearly mood is a product of the interactions of both the physical and the abstract.

Biology is real. People who say EVERYTHING is in your mind, and if you just VISUALIZE 10s and WEALTH it will simply happen are simply unrealistic.
If I'm 50 years old 5'4" and "visualize" and "believe" I'll be an NBA star, will it happen? Even most 8 year olds will know this is idiotic.

HOWEVER, CBT and changing your thoughts works as well, as well as optimism. ( Albert Ellis was the popularizer of RET leter he changed the name to REBT as he realized that actions " behavior" in the world were needed to change your mind and mood, and an ancient slave named Epictetus was probably the earliest forumulator of RET)

Seligman was the guy that later started the positive psychology academic movement, he moved away from the disease model. One good idea he has is that you can learn optimism.

And the BEST thing may be to attack the problem from two fronts: exercise and nutrition and possibly anti-depressants for the physical, and CBT or other therapy for the mental.

If you have seen many patients battle with depression and other mental illness, you would know that there are a significant amount that do much, much better with pharmaceutical anti-depressants. Yes, Big Pharma antidepressants.

You might not like the politics of that, but if you work as a professional and know what you are talking about, you realize the world is not a fair, lovely place.

I'm giong to sign up for the gym now. U Penn study showed exercise works as well as Prozac, but but exercise effects only last about 24 hours.

Trying to define the solution to something as complex as depression in a single glib sentence makes about as much sense as trying to do the same for cancer or some other massively complicated phenomenon which results form the interaction of thousands of elements.

"The goal of {amoral} capitalism is to reduce all human interaction to the cash nexus." L. D.
(This post was last modified: 10-26-2013 12:00 PM by iknowexactly.)
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