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Men who "propose" to their wives are invariably betas who get divorce raped
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RE: Men who "propose" to their wives are invariably betas who get divorce raped
(12-21-2013 05:30 PM)BLarsen Wrote:  I agree. Look at the image below, which is basically the same pose. What does that body language say? Begging, pleading, SURRENDER. That's the complete opposite of what we know works.

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Nice try,

[Image: marriage-proposal.jpg]

The original image is of a man with his face on the ground, groveling and kissing another man's shoe while he makes a gesture of supreme authority. A far cry from the traditional proposal stance, which is a way of showing your willingness to be vulnerable to a woman (an expression of trust), who could not hurt you if she tried, in confident, self-assured body language. You're subduing your physical and social power for her, but that doesn't mean it's gone (the fact that it's still there is what makes the gesture powerful).

You aren't on your knee in worship. You're on your knee to show you're ready to sacrifice and communicate goodwill, honor, and trust. And you're not surrendering to her, per se; you're surrendering to the relationship, which is a big sacrifice for men. Lots of alphas follow the script out of tradition.

Personally, I'd rather have a wife that wanted tradition (doesn't have to mean expensive) than one that wanted to seal the deal by getting blasted (these types are definitely cool chicks but not exactly submissive wife material) - or especially the type that insists we call each other "partners." Puke

You don't have to agree with that, of course, and there is certainly grounds to make a case that getting on your knee is over-submissive, but let's not pretend the two pictures above are in the least bit alike.

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(This post was last modified: 12-26-2013 03:49 AM by Beyond Borders.)
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