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The "Do You Even Deadlift" Clinic
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RE: The "Do You Even Deadlift" Clinic
(04-15-2015 07:38 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  
(04-15-2015 04:06 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  
(04-14-2015 05:48 PM)Fortis Wrote:  What are some good resources on learning the Hook grip properly? I used to do supine one hand and pronated other hand but I don't want to cause muscle imbalances. My dead lift is stalling at 2x because I've been doing double overhead grip instead of the mixed grip.

Thanks man

Personal opinion: get straps, they cost about $7 for a pair, and continue to lift double overhand. The hook grip is a pretty technical grip, that hurts like hell, and requires a significant time investment to master (Assuming you have no competitive goals as a strength athlete). If you do want to compete in powerlifting, then it is skill training and you should absolutely do it. If you just want to keep building a big, strong back, get straps and keep pushing on.

I intend to cover the hook grip in details very soon.

I personally introduced the hook grip to my powerlifting club (and a few other clubs around Australia). I learned it in person from the best and most famous hook-grip deadlifter of all: Brad Gillingham (and his protége, when they were down here for a competition). It takes an average of 2-6 weeks to convert to the hook grip (like every tip I'm posting in this thread) although novices-intermediates tend to take just 2-3 weeks (the heavier you're already lifting, the harder it is to switch) and the longest case was a guy who already pulled over 4xBW. Most people learn it wrong, which is why their thumbs hurt like a bitch.

I have very soft fingers and thumbs (growing up playing classical piano). My fingers and thumbs can bend the other way by a lot. It took me 4 weeks. I have coached small girls (52kg - 63kg weight classes i.e 115lb - 137lb) to hook grip, and they're now pulling over 220lb for reps with it.

There's nothing particularly wrong with straps if you're not a powerlifter, but since learning the hook grip is relatively easy, I can't see a reason why not. In fact, using straps is an important part of training the deadlift if you're a hook gripper, due to certain inherent weaknesses of the grip.

Anyway, I'll cover this in a lot of details next time.

Definitely look forward to learning about that then. I struggled with it for a while before I left it alone, but didn't have the opportunity to learn from a good source. Fortis, I'd take Strikeback's opinion on this over mine, without any hesitation.
04-15-2015 07:46 AM
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