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RE: Survival TV Show: Alone
(06-29-2015 04:17 PM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  I like the concept of the show, but I'm disappointed at the location they selected. Vancouver Island isn't that "wild," it has a population of over 700,000 people and a pop. density of 60/sq. mile.

I did some quick Google Earth research on the exact site they selected:

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A few things to note. First, these dudes are right on top of each other. One of them could yell at night and the one the next site over could hear him.

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Also, the area itself is hardly wooded at all. The coastal area immediately next to the water has a few hundred meters (if that) of woods, but then the interior is bare, with a bunch of roads running over the whole area. Dramatic narration notwithstanding, I doubt this part of the island supports that many large predators.

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I really love the outdoors, in particular completely wild, isolated places far from civilization, so I'm still gonna give this show a try before I pass further judgment. But I do feel that they could have selected a much more hard-core location for the shoot, either somewhere in Alaska (where you need to literally fly a plane for hundreds of km to get to the nearest road) or in Canada's interior. Plenty of lakes in both those areas to give the same type of feel as Vancouver Island.

Okie dokie, time for a lesson in canadian geography and aerial image interpretation.

1. The population density that you've got is the average for the island, remember average. The only homes you can see on the map are in winter harbour and down to the fishing resort across the cove from where most of the competitors are...that is it. If you google images of or use google earth to look at the actual 'town' of Winter harbor it is hardly that.

2. The proximity of the dudes in relation to each other has one large factor in addition to a short overland distance, elevation. Climbing over those ridges to the next guy's area would be a bitch, as well as deflecting sound. Here is a photo from the island most of the dudes are on
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3. "The area is hardly wooded"...Come on. Those varying shades of green you see are not farm fields, they are 2nd growth clearcut areas. The dark green is old growth area, the lighter green is newer growing forest and the brown is recent logging/cutovers. Walking through a coastal BC cutover is hell on earth, you trip and fall every 4 feet. This is probably a good example of a 'brown' area on the sat image
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Last, "Roads through the entire area" Those are logging roads, not highways where you can hitchhike. They are used once or twice during the 80 year cycle between forest harvests and are more like trails. Here is a good example of a "road" in a coastal BC logging area
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In terms of large predators, I don't know about grizzlies but black bears... Guess what they like? Old forest and large continuous clearcuts. Why? the clearcuts support easy to find rotten stumps to tear up and eat bugs as well as big berry patches. That island is black bear heaven for habitat.

The area that they are in is pretty typical for Canadian wilderness. Being in that shit is just as bad 10 miles from a town as it is 100. Thats the thing about the wild parts of Canada, towns just stop at the edges, there aren't any drifting suburbs where you will run into people, where the edge of town ends the wilderness starts.

Just some insights from your friendly neighbourhood canadian forester.

edit: You know who else loves logging roads? Wolves. Those cunning bastards are one of the few animals that use them like sidewalks to get around logged areas faster. Wild wolves intelligence is eerie, when we'd see them in newly logged areas like caribou country they'd on the forest edges and just watch or when you'd come back to an area in the truck they'd be standing on the logging road and casually part for you to pass through, like a gang of thugs and just stare at you as you drove by. Chilling, but there also has been maybe 1 human death attributed to wolves in Canada that I remember? Bears and Cougars are the real risk.

You can watch episodes online it seems http://www.history.com/shows/alone/videos there are definitely predators and I'm going to keep watching. It does a great job of capturing the isolation that washes over you when you are out alone and encounter a risky situation. Its giving me heebie jeebie flashbacks of bear encounters and freaking out when getting almost lost, falling down rocks or having a truck break down in the back of an abandoned logging area. Worth watching.

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