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RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia
you clearly are arguing and you are definitely not making your arguments CLEAR and concise.

look back at your post.

you said everything about masters. And my argument is you DON'T need them.( that should be the end of discussion?)

then you switch to senior managers saying those are related or masters or something.

Because from your wording it seems like you are saying at FIRST all about masters. then you said something about senior managers requiring masters or something, which is very confusing. Just look back at your post. Your emphasis at first is about MASTERS. that is the point you are making right? so we are not talking about senior managers or anything else. Then you said 'i have never said that senior managers require masters', well i have never said you said that. I am pointing out that senior managers don't require masters. thats a trival point. not the point of discussion.


I think there MIGHT be foreigners with higher pay and whatever benefits than the local candidate who has similar level of experience, but is this widespread? we dont know. I know some guys like i said working for DISNEY in China getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, an american guy, and his focus is on engineering procurement with the park facilities. He gets a housing allowance of 6000 USD a month plus all the benefits of driver, maid, etc. So he is living the good live. But to get to that position he has probably done things you cannot do.

But is such position common these days for foreigners compared to say 15-20 years ago? the majority of people have said no, and companies are cutting back on expat packages. This is definitely the case with Hong Kong and Singapore. My friends who expatriated here 20 years ago and settled down with decent jobs are all saying if they are to do it again right now, it would probably be too difficult. Too many expats these days and companies cutting back. One of my friend's working as SAP consultant for a fortune 500 company, and they are cutting back from 100 head count to just 30 worldwide with 5 in hong kong office. The implementation of the ERP systems have been outsourced to Accenture in India. Out of cut backs, the expats are more likely to go than the locals. Another friend came to Asia 20 years ago, worked as a bartender in HK at first while it was still under British rule, then switched to various sales positions and then finally into a private investment fund. He has said if he had to come here today and do the same thing, he wouldn't be able to do it.

Sure there are always niches where foreigners can provide value, expertise above and beyond a local can. However, these days life is tougher and tougher. A friend of mine is coming to Asia from London next month, without a job, hoping to land one and live in Hong Kong. I am warning him it might be difficult now. He used to work as a commodities trader. But he's not deterred and wants to live in Asia.

It could happen, and there are alot of expats in cities like Hong Kong or Singapore. but it is a lot harder these days.
(This post was last modified: 01-30-2017 12:15 AM by worldtraveler3.)
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The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - Zerdame - 02-17-2016, 11:57 AM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - Gas - 02-20-2016, 09:00 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - 262 - 02-22-2016, 06:48 AM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - HOD - 02-24-2016, 10:31 AM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - JWLZG - 02-22-2016, 06:23 AM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - JWLZG - 02-22-2016, 07:10 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - 262 - 03-07-2016, 04:34 AM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - jayko - 03-13-2016, 12:45 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - HOD - 03-13-2016, 10:38 AM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - jayko - 03-13-2016, 12:50 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - HOD - 03-13-2016, 12:58 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - jayko - 03-13-2016, 01:09 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - HOD - 03-13-2016, 01:15 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - jayko - 03-13-2016, 01:28 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - HOD - 03-13-2016, 01:34 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - jayko - 03-13-2016, 01:46 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - HOD - 03-13-2016, 11:57 AM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - HOD - 03-26-2016, 10:45 AM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - HOD - 03-27-2016, 11:46 AM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - pman - 05-03-2016, 09:36 AM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - pman - 05-27-2016, 05:44 AM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - HOD - 06-11-2016, 01:28 AM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - HOD - 06-11-2016, 09:20 AM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - Joeno - 06-12-2016, 04:50 AM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - Joeno - 06-17-2016, 07:15 AM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - HOD - 06-17-2016, 10:00 AM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - jjk - 06-17-2016, 09:44 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - HOD - 06-17-2016, 11:32 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - HOD - 06-18-2016, 04:41 AM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - Joeno - 06-18-2016, 05:06 AM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - HOD - 06-18-2016, 08:16 AM
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RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - Joeno - 06-19-2016, 06:28 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - jjk - 06-19-2016, 09:30 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - HOD - 06-23-2016, 03:54 AM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - HOD - 06-29-2016, 07:15 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - Drix - 06-30-2016, 03:00 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - HOD - 07-05-2016, 08:54 AM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - HOD - 07-05-2016, 09:47 AM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - jj90 - 07-15-2016, 02:48 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - HOD - 07-19-2016, 01:30 AM
The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - Drix - 08-22-2016, 12:02 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - HOD - 08-27-2016, 06:09 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - VKdog - 01-18-2017, 04:56 AM
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RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - VKdog - 01-19-2017, 07:53 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - VKdog - 01-20-2017, 08:31 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - VKdog - 01-20-2017, 08:37 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - worldtraveler3 - 01-29-2017 11:49 PM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - JWLZG - 04-06-2017, 06:09 AM
RE: The Asian Travel Guide to Asia - JWLZG - 04-08-2017, 11:12 PM
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