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RE: Australian Stock Market
If you happened to have a whole bunch of money ready when the market crashed in 07/08 and had the timeline to wait for the inevitable rise then great, you'd make a killing. But how do you know when that crash is coming? Very few people do/did and they made a lot of money from that.

Many people knew that the crash was coming, because it was inevitable as a matter of logic. Few people had the exact timing right, because that is almost impossible to predict. Watch the film "The Big Short," which revolves around both these issues: someone who correctly knew what the future would bring by applying logic and also had the fortitude to stay the course, even though he was wrong on the timing.


This can cause you to get stuck in the trap of always trying to pick stocks at the bottom which is a mugs game.

Compiling a fortune in paper profits only to have it wiped out in the next bear market is also a mugs game. Buying with greed near a market top and then selling in fear near a market bottom is also a mugs gain. The vast majority of retain investors fall into one of these two categories. Even most hedge fund managers underperform the market indices.


When Buffet talks about buying value he means buying into a solid business and backing that businesses fundamentals to generate growth over the years to improve the share price. He doesn't mean buying something speculative hoping it goes big i.e. an oil/mineral exploration company with no finds yet.

Re-read what I wrote. He is a value investor, but also pounces on a company like a cat on a mouse when the company is distressed but still financially sound. I never said anything about pure mindless speculation.


True but you also have to have the money at the time the value presents itself. So how do you do that? Always keep a cash reserve ready to invest? But then that money is doing nothing, just earning bank interest when it could be in a stock potentially making capital gains and dividend income.

Invest in real things that produce an income with high yields and low risks. These investments are hard to find, but available to those who seek them out. Placing all your money (or even half of it) in the stock market is a fool's game. You will never beat the market makers, quants, supercomputers, and algorithms -- much less the out-of-control government intervention in the markets. Set aside speculative money for the stock market and wait for asymmetric trades. Play by your rules, not theirs. You win by not playing the game.



(This post was last modified: 01-10-2018 11:19 AM by Tail Gunner.)
01-10-2018 11:07 AM
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