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RE: The Holocaust (Holohoax?) Thread
(12-31-2016 07:33 AM)not-a-pua Wrote:  The biggest problem for deniers with no German knowledge is, that they can't speak the language. So they fall into the trap of deniers of dubious background.

There is plenty of stuff in the German language that never got a translation. I have a book: "Ganz normale Männer" (Ordinary Men. Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland) from Christopher R. Browning. Its about a police unit (Einsatzgruppe) that did shootings behind the front lines and how those men did change. How rules, a system and group thinking mixed with the sense of duty let those men shoot men, women and children.
Also the testimonial of Rudolf Höss the leader of Auschwitz. The killings did happen. For sure the numbers you can doubt but its not impossible. See it from that point, when Germans do a mass killing they do it as professional as possible. I have books that did talk about 2 to 3 million jews. Now the 6 million jews is out there in the room.

For understand the Holocaust you have to did very deep psychological. It did happen not out of be cruel and horrible. The orders came from a far more spiritual meaning. The purge and cleaning for a greater sacrifice. The saving of the German nation, of Europe. Hitler, Himmler and all those men in charge had seen it as their duty to purge Europe for a better purpose. Then you have men like Adolf Eichmann and Rudolf Höss that do those things not with joy. But with a call for duty. They seen it as their necessary to be good soldiers, good citizens to follow the orders of the system. For the better of a future generation that will come. Of course in war and such an environment you have your slaughters, your cruel people as well. A Klaus Barbie or Amon Goeht. In such times those people can release their sick fantasies.

What made the holocaust so special compare to other mass murders in history, not that it was made more professional. In communism of Stalin you had the theoretical possibility to give away all your wealth and become a communist. In most systems you had the theoretical possibility to change your points of view to escape the killing. Also the native indians could settle in special territories and it was never the final intention to wipe them all out. But for the slavs and jews? There was no escape. No matter how much they would adapt to be German, for this system their guild was genetic. Just be a slav or a jew was enough to get killed. Even for kids. At least that is what they made out of the Holocaust today.

What they made out of this after the war is another story. It was finally the start for the jews to get a piece of land. It is a way to get money out of Germany. It is a way to hold Germany down. It is a never ending cash cow. Without the Holocoust there would be no Israel. Tragic and funny at the same. Israel would not exist without out the Holocaust. Those you hate the most is also that what made you who you are today.

From a personal experience, the first time in my life when I meet jews it was a super strange feeling. I'm not into the cult of shame and guilt. I'm a very proud German but when I meet those people there was a sense be part of something larger. This get lost today with all the individualism. We are not just we. We are a step in the line of our ancestors that made it in the survival of the fittest. We are part of our culture, or societies, our countries. This bounding got lost these days. With individualism in the extreme and the mentality to make everything relative there is a betrayal of life itself. People and cultures are not exchangeable like an I Phone. We have to remember that. Our responsibility is not only our life. Its our families and the way how we want to live as well.

We will stand tall in the sunshine
With the truth upon our side
And if we have to go alone
We'll go alone with pride


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RE: The Holocaust (Holohoax?) Thread - Parzival - 12-31-2016 08:51 AM
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