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RE: The Holocaust (Holohoax?) Thread
As with all Holocaust discussions a few important facts always get left out:


1. There is a big difference between concentration camps and death (extermination) camps. Here I'm just going to talk about death camps.

2. The (death) extermination camps were ALL in eastern Europe, almost in all territories that now belong to Poland and Lithuania.
Map here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp

3. The gas chambers were mostly underground and had normal looking houses (often with big chimneys) built on top of them or around them.

4. The houses which had the gas chambers beneath/inside them and crematoria were built at the outer limits of the camps in a special barbed wire fenced off areas so that even prisoners could not get there or really see what was going on.

5. When Germany was retreating from the advancing Soviet Russian army in 1944-1945 all houses, crematoria and gas chambers underneath them were either dismantled and/or destroyed with explosives. They did this so as not to leave traces of what they did. In fact if you visit Auschwitz, all you see of the gas chambers is the remnants of the basements of crematoria 1, 2, 3 and 4. The whole above structure is destroyed.

6. All extermination camps without exception were liberated by the communist Soviet Russian army. American or British troops never conquered or occupied those territories where the death camps were.

7. The Russian Soviet army set all the camp prisoners free, however they still used some of the camps for their own prisoners of war. Yes, that's right some of the camps were still running past the end of world war 2, but not as death camps but as Soviet communist prisons. The prisoners were mostly German POWs, German civilians who had not fled west, and Slavs hostile to communism. Few people know that the death camps were still used by the Soviets as prisons for a few years after the end of the war. Stalin then deported most of these thousands of prisoners to the Soviet Union and put them in the Gulag.

8. When the death camps were finally transformed into museums, it was done under (Soviet influenced) Polish/Lithuanian communist governments and many of the components that had been destroyed by the retreating German army had to be reconstructed. Again, if you read the labels at many of the death camps it clearly states "this wall/structure/fence/gas chamber/crematorium/etc was reconstructed after the war." This makes any investigation extremely difficult because often you are looking at a post war replica built with the original blown up materials. Not everything was reconstructed, a lot is original too....but distinguishing between the 2 is not easy. Let me be clear....they didn't rebuild and create something fake. It's all real...but you are not always looking at the original unaltered structure.

9. Testimony from German death camp commandants at the post war trials (like Nuremburg) are accurate but again they were probably exaggerating true numbers to satisfy political aims of both the western allies and Soviet Union. Many were testifying after being held prisoner (and maybe tortured) for months or years by Soviet authorities.

10. Those organisations compiling lists of real names of holocaust victims have many people duplicated in their databases by their own admission. 2 big reasons for this are the fact the transliteration of names from languages which use the Cyrillic alphabet produce different spelling variations. Many holocaust victims came from Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Bulgaria, and Serbia...all countries which had the Cyrillic alphabet. Another reason for duplification is obviously that many people lied about their real names and orgins or had fake identification in such a dangerous situation hoping it would help them survive. So you often have the name of someone who might appear on a camp death list, but cannot be traced back to their birthplace and family, and then you have the same exact person under a different name listed again as "disappeared and probably killed in the holocaust" in the 2nd world war.




Like I said in my previous post, the holocaust is 100% real...but the numbers and true facts behind it had been manipulated for political reasons by both the Soviet communists who controlled eastern europe and other groups in the west who all had agendas to push.

The real question you have to ask yourself is:

Why did the Germans spend all this money and manpower on this "final solution" ? For a country that was pretty much bankrupt from 1918 until 1933 from expensive world war I reparations and insane hyperinflation , and then fighting multiple wars on multiple fronts all across Europe from 1939 until 1945, it seems crazy to waste all these very expensive resources and endless years just to arrest and kill all members of particular religious group. Simple anti seminitism does not explain this real paradox.
(This post was last modified: 12-31-2016 10:13 AM by Mercenary.)
12-31-2016 09:29 AM
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RE: The Holocaust (Holohoax?) Thread - Mercenary - 12-31-2016 09:29 AM
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