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(01-03-2017 10:11 AM)Gorgiass Wrote:  
Quote:At higher concentrations it [CO2] leads to an increased respiratory rate, tachycardia, cardiac arrhythmias and impaired consciousness. Concentrations >10% may cause convulsions, coma and death.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16499405

The abstract does say "may cause".

The body’s response to carbon dioxide exposure varies depending on the concentration and length of time exposed. Inhaled concentrations of >2% carbon dioxide can be expected to cause adverse effects. As the concentration increases further, the effects become more marked (table I), leading to death at concentrations >17%.
Table I
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Conclusions are not very coherent with the exposure section (and table I), as the author mentions "At concentrations >5% it can have undesirable effects and is lethal at concentrations >10-17%".
For what it's worth it has been referenced 71 times.

If you have a study for Carbon Monoxide, I would be interested in reading that as well.

I'm pretty sure that stuffing a potato into a tailpipe is different from "exhausting" into a contained environment. If it is possible to inject/release CO2 to a contained environment why is it not possible to exhaust it from a tailpipe? Serious question.

To be honest, I had never heard about the diesel engines story until I saw it mentioned on another RFV thread. And i'm particularly interested in WW2 topics.


(01-03-2017 04:19 PM)Truth Teller Wrote:  
(01-03-2017 05:33 AM)Wreckingball Wrote:  "Believers" cannot also explain, congruently, the data and the number 6 million (which apparently never keeps on changing even though the number of victims at Auschwitz goes from 4.5 million to 1.5 million in a couple decades).
IHR is not a reputable academic source but is combining several credible sources that do contradict each other, constantly. If you notice, each article has several sources, that you can use google scholar to read them.

Look, it's really simple. When the extent of the Holocaust was first discovered, scholarship was inhibited by the fact of the Iron Curtain. That is, the Soviets had certain records and pieces of information that were not released to the West until far later. That's how history works. More recent scholarship has had access to materials that earlier scholarship did not. You have to examine each of those sources in turn with the sources available at the time in mind.

That's what we're trying to do. No one is denying the suffering, which is clear it existed in the camps, just questioning numbers, methods and "propaganda" of both.


(01-03-2017 12:29 PM)HighSpeed_LowDrag Wrote:  
(01-03-2017 05:33 AM)Wreckingball Wrote:  "Believers" cannot also explain, congruently, the data and the number 6 million (which apparently never keeps on changing even though the number of victims at Auschwitz goes from 4.5 million to 1.5 million in a couple decades).

This is easily explainable. The "4 million dead at Auschwitz" plaque was regarded from the beginning by Western historians as Soviet propaganda. It never figured into serious calculations of Jews killed during the Holocaust. As early as 1950, Raul Hilberg was saying that no more than 1.1 - 1.3 million Jews were killed at Auschwitz.

Sure, shouldn't then the number have gone from 9M to 6M? Not that it matters much, but still...
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