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RE: Holocaust fact finding thread
(04-12-2017 08:52 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  
(04-12-2017 08:30 PM)Gorgiass Wrote:  The Holocaust is the most documented crime in history

Lol.

You disqualify everything you claim by such a statement.

Says the guy who begins his argument with LOL. You sure you don't want to throw a few ((())) into that? That's like, totes the second longest paragraph I've seen you write without using them.

(04-12-2017 09:03 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  (((Gorgiass)))

I'm kidding, brother Laugh

At this point, I say we make a compromise with Jews. No more Holocaust revisionism, denialism, questioning it etc. We'll accept every fact that has ever been documented in exchange for them shutting the fuck up about it.

I think it's time to admit that Jews have squeezed every possible bit of sympathy from this event.

Sign me up. Right after peace in the middle east. But in the meantime...

(04-13-2017 12:40 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  And actually yes, I am a handwriting expert.
I have studied several hundreds of different handwriting styles from the 1700s (many written in Latin with quill pens on sheepskin parchment paper) all the way to the present day, with an emphasis on the styles in use before the 1950s, because I had to read thousands of old handwritten documents and personal letters. So yeah, I know what I'm talking about when I say there are at least 2 different people (of vastly different ages from different generations of scholastic instruction on how to write) creating that diary text.

That was a two part question, and I'm assuming from your dodge that you are't fluent in German, or Dutch. I wrote that I wasn't an expert already, and at least I was fully upfront about it.

But even as someone who doesn't speak the language, you could certainly break it down better than that. Tell us what the hundreds of other certified experts who weren't just an avatar on the web missed that you caught. Because when you claim to be an expert but the best evidence you throw up is a page of print next to a page of cursive and call one "obviously adult old style", to me that reeks of either deception or ignorance.

(04-13-2017 07:11 AM)weambulance Wrote:  And, I'm not going to give you my life story.

You were the one touting your "expertise". Now you don't want to pony up the goods all of a sudden? Seems legit. But I can go snark for snark all day if you really want to.

(04-13-2017 07:11 AM)weambulance Wrote:  Your claim that boilers can't put out much steam is, to put it kindly, absolutely absurd
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http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/bron...-1.2903967

But yeah, that steam ain't no thang, right?

Nice job with the reframe! Looks "like" it's working for you, at least among the readers attracted to a thread like this. I never said steam couldn't kill, and in fact I specifically said it could with a massive boiler. Like say...the kind of boiler used to heat an entire apartment building venting through a blown radiator into a small room with young children perhaps? Killer example, thanks for that.

Now compare the effort to get this room-sized boiler set up in a lethal fashion vs the effort to get a mobile diesel engine set up in a lethal fashion. Also consider what an enormous functioning boiler might have been used for in wartime, and whether taking it out of service to steam the skin of Jews would be a good business decision. You were very specifically putting this forth as a more sensible alternative for execution than a diesel gas chamber and the smart money says it isn't.

You are now doubling down on this absurd position, not because it's viable, but because you would rather believe any harebrained story over the mainstream facts. And thus was born denialism and a host of other nearly as foolish conspiracy theories.

(04-13-2017 07:11 AM)weambulance Wrote:  Shit, steam is even more efficient for mass killings than I thought it was when I first made my off the cuff proposal months ago.

No doubt. This is the Backfire Effect, and this thread is rife with it! I don't kid myself that my replying here will make you forget what that rabbi did to you. I reply for those who might be on the fence and indeed, for the very dignity of the forum. Damn RVF for bringing out my inner whiteknight Cry

But in all seriousness, do you realize why so many anti-Trump articles try to tie him in with the alt-right, and in your previous article's case, crackpot David Irving? Because the denialist movement is so extreme and so absurdist to 99.9% of Earth's population not suffering from severe cognitive biases or deficits, every successful tie-in brings Michelle Obama closer to victory in 2020. That's really the goal you're working towards here, and the one I'm working against.

(04-13-2017 07:11 AM)weambulance Wrote:  You can't run tanks on wood or coal, dude. You don't waste a strategic asset in wartime if it's substitutable, even if the substitute is not as good objectively.
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And hey, I have an answer for your wood seasoning thing too, if they were cutting their own wood. The really amazingly shocking answer is, holy shit, they could've just waited a year after cutting it to start work.

Cutting wood one year ahead of time for your steam chamber vs sacrficing a few gallons of diesel for instant gratification. Tough call, but chew on it for a bit. Did you know that the entire German ground fleet and nearly all the air fleet ran on gasoline, so diesel wasn't as much of a hot commodity as you seem to think it is? Answers a lot of the questions here regarding resources, doesn't it. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you weren't being deliberately deceptive and simply didn't know, since you were so kind to do the same for me regarding my ignorance.

(04-13-2017 07:11 AM)weambulance Wrote:  Second, they can build gas chambers that are safe to work around with lethal chemicals that kill at low concentration exposure, but they can't build a sufficiently airtight room...?

Jeez, and you attack [i]my logic.

Once again, effort involved in purpose building a passably airtight underground concrete chamber vs the effort to park a diesel next to a leaky wodden barn and turn it on. That was what this discussion was about before you attempted the reframe – efficiency of labor and materials in wartime - right? Or do you only play that card when it suits your purposes, eg, those recently discovered German diesels above?

(04-13-2017 07:11 AM)weambulance Wrote:  Er, no. It isn't. Or I would've found big huge piles of real evidence when I went looking. I made a point of saying that there's a distinct lack of evidence for many claims, and I didn't make that up.

You couldn't find piles of evidence for the Holocaust in your exhaustive search?? Man, that is rich! Google-Fu is weak in this one... Anyway, every time I see this thread I think of Eisenhower's famous quote after the tour he took.

Supreme Allied Commander and future "anti-military-industrial-complex" President Eisenhower Wrote:I made the visit deliberately, in order to be in position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops the tendency to charge these allegations merely to “propaganda.”

Was Ol' Ike was "simply wrong" too? Man, you must have some kind of expertise! General Patton accompanied him on the tour, and word is that even this man, who oversaw the storming of the beaches of Normandy, refused to enter one of the rooms saying that he would be sick if he did. He was probably just so disgusted by the complete lack of evidence.
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RE: Holocaust fact finding thread - amity - 09-01-2017, 01:08 PM
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