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(01-27-2018 06:55 AM)Teedub Wrote:  The 'economy before anything' (as laid out above) approach is demonstrative of why neoliberal capitalism needs calling out alongside cultural marxism/postmodernism. Combined, they've created the hell we're living in. Could any of the forum's economic experts lay out a solution. It's not my area of expertise to say the least.

I can't see a solution that is likely as all the solutions would involve changes and people taking on obligations, when all many people want is more rights. The UK central management model is unable to do anything other than slide downhill.

To briefly take the two biggest issues, you have the state pensions, which are one of the worst managed in the developed world. Private pensions are invested. If you put away £1M over your life in a private pension it will be invested and should net something like £3M on the other end. But the state pension is paid straight out of current tax income. This was set up by Labour. It's unsustainable, but it's too big too fail, so they kick the can, fiddle the knobs. The percentage of the government budget spent on pensions has been going up at 0.3% per year. At the rate they are fiddling the age you are eligible for state pension it will be 83 when you retire if you're 30 now. This isn't feasible. Currently it's 65/68. And the total percent of the government budget spent on pensions will go from 20% to 31%. The Office for National Statistics have been issuing warnings about this for years, but the politicians can't do anything without exposing the game as a complete con. The handful of vague conservatives in the fake Conservative Party don't dare say anything about this as they've learnt daring to put any conservative policies in their manifesto will lead to Corbyn.

Then take the NHS, in real (inflation adjusted terms) the amount of money spent on the NHS has gone up about 10 times in 65 years. Lots of reasons: there are more medical treatments now, people are living longer and about 1.5% of the budget is spent of treatment for foreigners who come here to get free treatment and then go home. Say anything about that and you're a racist.

Neither of these can go anywhere other than downhill, unless there is the wildcard of a vast productive economic revolution. That's not likely in a nation of people who want the government to be their mummy and daddy until death do they part.

Between the NHS and pensions, they take up 37% of the government budget. By the time we are old aged they are on trajectory to be about 50+% of the budget. There's no sign of economic growth to pay for that, so something is going to have to change - the likelihood is young people not having children to prop it up on their way to their magical disappearing pensions.

These two big social services have never been funded in a responsible, sustainable way. No one is really responsible for them. Labour jack spending up to please their infantile voters and The Conservatives try and smooth out the unsustainable mess. No one cares about them beyond them being there when they need them, just as public toilets are drenched in jots of piss. The lesson of history - the commons are treated like no one's property.

These systems require perpetually favourable demographics to continue for Labour to bribe to their voters with. Now we are in demographic decline from an economic perspective, we are being told that this social democratic model we've been sold for decades needs very high levels of immigration to continue. But nothing is being done to prune back that model. So at a likely approaching 70 million population now, these people want to put us in exactly the same position by the end of the century when the population will be around 90 million. That 90 million population will then be told it needs more immigrants to prop up the same system. This won't work. It will end at some point, particularly with a fractured society of disparate groups.

One of many problems is that adding more people into the country means more people chasing the same resources. Especially if you are bringing in low-skill people who don't add value to the state-directed economy. As it stands the average British person is a net drain on public finance. EE immigrants make less money, so long-term it's not a sustainable solution. It makes GDP higher to throw in more workers, but we've had a 12% nominal GDP contraction between 2007 and 2016. This has pushed not just real, but nominal wages lower over the last 10 years. This is hardly the immigrant boom we're being sold. But as most people are economically illiterate they can do whatever they want.

There was a similar dilemma in the 19th century. Capitalism is often blamed for terrible living conditions, but the reality is the spoils of capitalism created a society that could sustain more viable lives; and as in any favourable situation the people overshot their surplus resources and weren't able to sustain themselves as they might wish. We're going to see the same play out again. Around the beginning of the 19th C you also had the end of a gigantic increase in the welfare state and the same with illegitimate births, the hallmark of degeneracy. The free-for-all liberalism (do as thou wilt) of the 18th C led to this clusterfuck and the result was that people had to become conservative to survive. Religion came back, temperance rose...

Welfare then:

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Welfare now:

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Illegitimacy then:

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Births out of wedlock now:

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Children with no fathers in the US is about 25%, I believe, probably something similar here.

This can't go on forever.

Another big problem in Britain is colossal housing regulation. If you want to buy a house you have to pay a giant premium as a result of this. An acre of arable land is about £10,000, while an acre of building land is more in the region of £1M. This is being jacked up even higher by adding in more often low-capital people who are chasing the same small housing stock, while people are also living in smaller households.

Another issue that is totally ignored is that many nationalities of immigrants have lower incomes, lower employment rates, higher welfare rates and higher crime rates. This is all in official government figures. Until recently the employment rate for Pakistanis was less than half of native British and the average wage was about 50%, as well of much higher welfare. Though we are now being directly told that people from those countries are the exact sort of people who will keep UK services running, while we already know that they are net drains in real-time.

Britain somehow managed for 100s of years as an engine of world innovation and growth without the need for mass migration. When there is an oversupply things move, when there is an under-supply things move. We're told that if it wasn't for immigration we'd basically be over with mass requirements for labour being unfulfilled. Things would have moved to address this. Just as many things are now moving due to the increased demand for housing, increased welfare, job pressures.

There isn't a solution as I see it as too much has been centralised by the government and I don't think it's likely that the fake Conservative party will ever make any cuts to mass immigration.

But here's a some things that would make people lives better:
  • Limited high-skill immigrants, as any real country like S Korea, Japan, Singapore; no asylum seekers
  • Liberalise housing regulation so as to bring prices down 20-30%, this would need to be eased in over time as it would case mass instability if done over night
  • Modify pensions so that everyone now has to work well into their 70s to get their pension, sorry the government lied to you. And bring in a forced pension market place.
  • Same with health care, you have to pay into an invested fund over your life so you can continue to get real care and not death panneled
  • Complete overhaul of education so people are given real-world skills and confidence

But none of that will happen.
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RE: British Politics Thread - Once Was Not - 03-14-2018, 03:49 PM
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RE: British Politics Thread - gework - 03-15-2018, 05:00 AM
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RE: British Politics Thread - gework - 03-15-2018, 12:56 PM
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RE: British Politics Thread - nomadbrah - 03-15-2018, 09:48 PM
RE: British Politics Thread - gework - 03-16-2018, 06:00 AM
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RE: British Politics Thread - Foolsgo1d - 03-17-2018, 08:54 AM
RE: British Politics Thread - budoslavic - 03-17-2018, 01:38 PM
RE: British Politics Thread - amity - 03-18-2018, 05:11 AM
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RE: British Politics Thread - Once Was Not - 03-20-2018, 11:59 AM
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RE: British Politics Thread - roberto - 03-05-2019, 10:34 AM
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