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RE: North Korea Conflict Thread
(04-17-2017 07:33 PM)Robert High Hawk Wrote:  
(04-17-2017 04:36 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  If North Korea is such an imminent threat to world peace, why have they never attacked anyone? or Iran for that matter?

To preface: I'm much more of a Buchananite that we should get the hell out of Korea outright, but this is too juicy a question to ignore.

North Korea has attacked other countries, particularly South Korea but also the USA several times. But South Korea, and even the USA, repeatedly backed down. Some of these actions would be considered clear cut acts of war these days, but SuperPower politics, and principally the US' commitment to Vietnam were such that no one wanted to start a new war.

- 1968 the North Koreans sent an elite Unit to assassinate the SK president. Let that sink in for a bit. They trained for two years and even built a replica of the presidential palace to practice on. They slipped through the border and even made it to the presidential palace. 26 South Koreans and 4 Americans killed.

US and SK response: agree to hold discussions with the North Koreans about the incident

Just a few days later before those discussions can even be held: North Koreans capture USS Pueblo in international waters, hold crew hostage for a year, never release the ship

US response: Issue a formal apology to NK in order to get the crew returned

1968: 130 Commandos land on SK shores to start a guerilla war, kill 20 SK before being defeated

1969: NK fighter jet shoots down US Air Force surveillance plane in international airspace killing 21 crew members.

US response: Nothing (USA was still heavily involved in Vietnam at that point, and again new the real implications of going to war with another country in Asia)

skipping forward a few decades to recently, but during this time further random attacks as well as abductions of Japanese citizenry.

2010: NK sinks a SK Navy Vessel, killing 46, also an artillery bombardment of a SK Island that same year.

SK response: Nothing, just a UN resolution condemning the attack.


^the above incidences are key to keep in mind, that even the US has bent over and taken it several times in the larger interest of de-escalating.

Kim Jong Un seems to be more insular than even his father, who actually made trips to Russia, and met with the SK and even Japanese president.

The powers that be have always played this game, but judging from the above history, SK and USA are willing to take a lot of pain and humiliation to avoid war. NK knows this, and gets away with what they can. But it is worth taking a moment to see what they have done and yet totally and utterly gotten away with it across many presidencies.

Now in the vain of your question, they have not invaded any other country, and yes if you send troops near another enemy country you shouldn't be surprised that you get attacked, but it's worth noting the NK has a gotten away with some brazen stuff.

They are still training to this day to storm and kill the SK president.





Also they actually give tours of the USS Pueblo to tourist who come to NK, openly stating that it is the only US warship that has ever been captured that is still in tact. The US has been holding back a very long time.
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RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - Laner - 06-12-2018, 11:30 AM
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RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - MrLemon - 06-13-2018, 12:06 PM
RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - Parzival - 06-12-2018, 10:13 AM
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RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - Laner - 06-13-2018, 12:09 AM
RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - MrLemon - 06-13-2018, 01:25 AM
RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - Suits - 06-13-2018, 01:49 AM
RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - MrLemon - 06-13-2018, 11:27 AM
RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - fokker - 06-13-2018, 07:54 AM
RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - kaotic - 06-13-2018, 12:22 PM
RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - Arado - 06-13-2018, 02:32 PM
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RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - MrLemon - 06-13-2018, 07:27 PM
RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - Arado - 06-13-2018, 08:07 PM
RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - Rush87 - 06-13-2018, 08:24 PM
RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - Fortis - 06-13-2018, 09:39 PM
RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - Fortis - 06-14-2018, 11:23 AM
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RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - Belgrano - 06-14-2018, 12:59 PM
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RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - MrLemon - 06-15-2018, 01:25 AM
RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - Kurgan - 06-15-2018, 06:39 PM
RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - Suits - 06-16-2018, 12:23 AM
RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - LeBeau - 06-16-2018, 02:03 PM
RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - Samseau - 06-18-2018, 02:38 PM
RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - BlueMark - 06-20-2018, 07:22 PM
RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - Suits - 06-27-2018, 10:18 PM
RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - MrLemon - 06-27-2018, 11:48 PM
RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - MrLemon - 06-29-2018, 12:57 AM
RE: North Korea Conflict Thread - 911 - 07-02-2018, 10:58 PM
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