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RE: Health: Apple Cider Vinegar
(12-01-2014 11:30 PM)Dhorv9 Wrote:  
Quote:I'm not sold on fermented foods at all, with the notion of having to maintain our gut flora, and I have 2 reasons behind it.

1. It tastes bad. Logic tells me that if something tastes bad, we shouldn't eat it. It's one of nature's protection mechanisms. Animals use it to determine what they should or should not eat. I live by the same rule. If it tastes bad, I don't consume it.

2. It's not natural. Now I realize that there are many rebuttals to this (one of my own would be that I could argue that cooking our food isn't natural, either), but think about it. Our food (plants and animals) was made for us to consume fresh. It goes bad and eventually becomes poison to us if we consume it while in a rotten state.

Now, what are these gut flora that we need that only exist in fermented food? It simply doesn't make sense that our bodies would require something that only exists in a decayed state.

Fermenting food was originally used as a preservative, but we don't need that anymore - we have refrigerators and freezers.

I disagree with you on here. First of all, taste is completely subjective. Personally, I love the taste of fermented foods. I can eat whole bowls of just sauerkraut alone. There are many very healthy foods that people think taste like shit. Your preference for taste has to do with your upbringing among other factors, not what is healthy.
I eat lots of liver from grassed cows, one of the healthiest foods you can eat. Many of my friends hate that shit. Potato chips cooked in trans fat also taste good, that doesn't mean its healthy. Our bodies just don't want to starve to death.
Also, we don't "require" fermented foods, but they are beneficial. We don't need them to survive, but they are healthy.

Human bodies are not very efficient at processing a large amount of raw plant material. Fermented foods have always been consumed, at first in the form of partially digested vegetation from an animals stomach, which is basically fermented foods. Many cultures still eat that, and you will be fine if you do. Now, foods are fermented in different ways, but can still be healthy.

As with anything that has to do with health/fitness etc, results are king.
I eat lots of sauerkraut, raw milk, kimchi, ACV, and other foods like that, and I feel amazing. Theres kids in China eating eel, and most American kids wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole. Doesn't mean eel is unhealthy.

It seems that I largely agree with the several points that you are making, Dhorv9, yet who are you quoting? I would like to see the original reference in order to see the context and/or the poster, without having to dig too much.

Unless the reference is very recent or unambiguously clear, usually, for ease of reference, we will provide the link to any post that we are quoting (and/or rebutting or providing contrary opinion)... In this regard, this thread has suffered some time gaps in posts.
(This post was last modified: 12-02-2014 12:22 AM by JayJuanGee.)
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RE: Health: Apple Cider Vinegar - redbeard - 02-09-2017, 09:26 PM
RE: Health: Apple Cider Vinegar - redbeard - 02-09-2017, 10:07 PM
RE: Health: Apple Cider Vinegar - Turnus - 03-13-2017, 11:20 AM
RE: Health: Apple Cider Vinegar - Hypno - 03-20-2017, 05:49 AM
RE: Health: Apple Cider Vinegar - roberto - 04-04-2017, 06:09 AM
RE: Health: Apple Cider Vinegar - giama - 04-04-2017, 05:49 AM
RE: Health: Apple Cider Vinegar - gracy - 12-21-2017, 02:19 AM
RE: Health: Apple Cider Vinegar - Cr33pin - 05-22-2018, 04:58 PM
RE: Health: Apple Cider Vinegar - Denzel - 05-24-2018, 11:43 PM
RE: Health: Apple Cider Vinegar - SeaFM - 05-22-2018, 06:53 PM
RE: Health: Apple Cider Vinegar - john1565 - 05-23-2018, 11:11 AM
RE: Health: Apple Cider Vinegar - N°6 - 07-29-2018, 06:53 AM
RE: Health: Apple Cider Vinegar - Marmite - 08-01-2018, 07:38 AM
RE: Health: Apple Cider Vinegar - tewkewl - 08-06-2018, 12:06 PM
RE: Health: Apple Cider Vinegar - Cr33pin - 08-07-2018, 10:10 PM
RE: Health: Apple Cider Vinegar - Ballr - 08-10-2018, 03:05 PM
RE: Health: Apple Cider Vinegar - mikado - 08-10-2018, 03:41 PM
RE: Health: Apple Cider Vinegar - roberto - 08-12-2018, 05:36 AM
RE: Health: Apple Cider Vinegar - Fillip - 08-19-2018, 10:47 AM
RE: Health: Apple Cider Vinegar - Mr. D - 11-23-2018, 02:58 PM
RE: Health: Apple Cider Vinegar - Kekemet - 11-27-2018, 02:08 AM

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