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RE: Lifting weights and low carb dieting
mixx, your math is screwy.

base rate plus calories burned by exercise = your maintenance rate of caloric consumption. anything else is caloric deficit.

caloric deficits of any kind are necessarily catabolic.

you dont simply get to chose that your caloric deficit is solely made of up fat loss.

according to your math you are losing over a pound a day of pure fat.

as someone who is already at 10% BF, that is clearly impossible.

I also think you're wildly over estimating your caloric burn.


(i have both lost 60 lbs and gained 60 lbs on purpose so I have some idea of what i am talking about here)
02-16-2012 06:24 AM
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(02-16-2012 06:24 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  according to your math you are losing over a pound a day of pure fat.

That is correct. That is exactly what I am aiming for. 1lb of fat per day.

Now, how can I be sure that I am losing 1lb of fat per day? simple, my waistline is reduced by about 1/4 inch EVERY DAY.

here is more info as this is the baseline I used to post my numbers. My results vary daily, but this is mostly where I fit. However, I dont walk for 7hrs like the author of this article is demonstrating, I use my own methods that accomplish the same principles with intensity training, and walking with a 60lb (30kg) weight vest for an addtional 1.5 hrs. My total daily exercise time 3hrs.

http://www.bodyfatguide.com/PoundADay.htm

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02-16-2012 09:43 AM
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RE: Lifting weights and low carb dieting
so exactly how long do you stay on this diet then because by my math...

you'd lose 30 lbs (not necessarily fat all fat, and in fact, impossible given the stated BF%)
and
over 7 inches on your waistline

in one month
02-16-2012 09:47 AM
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RE: Lifting weights and low carb dieting
(02-16-2012 09:47 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  so exactly how long do you stay on this diet


First, I do not call it a "diet", a diet to me is sitting on your ass, and cutting calories, boy you have no idea how Insane I train daily!

I don't have a set time to be on it. I started this cycle January 26th, I've lost about 3" from my waistline ( I was 36") since the 24th until now, though I must admit. I cheated 2x Sad


I'll keep this up until I reach my goal of 31" waist @190lbs maybe another 20 +/- days.

After that cycle i complete, I SLOOOWWWLY start adding more calories to my diet until I reach 2300Kc per day of food intake.

Hey, I know this is not for everyone, I am mentally ill.


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02-16-2012 09:51 AM
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RE: Lifting weights and low carb dieting
lets look at it another way

you say 203 lbs 10% BF

that means, 20.3 lbs of body fat.

according to your math you'd be at 0% body fat in 20.3 days.



listen dude, you are clearly a valued forum member. i've read a lot of your posts, you are very very helpful. and the minneapolis/fargo stuff was really memorable.

but in this case i'm concerned that another brother was looking for advice on presumably sustainable dietary applications and what you're talking about appears to not only be unsustainable but not entirely accurate.

just trying to work this out
02-16-2012 09:57 AM
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(02-16-2012 09:57 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  i'm concerned that another brother was looking for advice on presumably sustainable dietary applications and what you're talking about appears to not only be unsustainable but not entirely accurate.

Don't be.

I was not posting this as my advice for the OP, I already gave that advice on post no. 2. I was asked what MY TRAINING cycle is like, and I posted it. Process it whichever way you must, I'm not pushing anyone else to do it, as a matter of fact, I strongly encourage EVERYONE HERE TO NOT DO WHAT I AM DOING!

I already gave you a link as to where I am getting this training guide from, well, the basis of it anyway.

I posted it for informational purposes, not as advice.

** I am under medical, personal trainer, and nutrionist supervision daily as I do this cycle. This is not for novice or occasional dieters like the OP, this shit is hardcore.


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02-16-2012 09:59 AM
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RE: Lifting weights and low carb dieting
how tall are you?
02-16-2012 09:59 AM
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(02-16-2012 09:59 AM)MiXX Wrote:  
(02-16-2012 09:57 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  i'm concerned that another brother was looking for advice on presumably sustainable dietary applications and what you're talking about appears to not only be unsustainable but not entirely accurate.

Don't be.

I was not posting this as my advice for the OP, I already gave that advice on post no. 2. I was asked what MY TRAINING cycle is like, and I posted it. Process it whichever way you must, I'm not pushing anyone else to do it, as a matter of fact, I strongly encourage EVERYONE HERE TO NOT DO WHAT I AM DOING!

I already gave you a link as to where I am getting this training guide from, well, the basis of it anyway.

I posted it for informational purposes, not as advice.

Mixx

fair enough!
02-16-2012 10:02 AM
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(02-16-2012 09:59 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  how tall are you?

5'11" <<-- I'm working on that problem too Smile
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02-16-2012 10:06 AM
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(02-16-2012 10:06 AM)MiXX Wrote:  
(02-16-2012 09:59 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  how tall are you?

5'11" <<-- I'm working on that problem too Smile

just out of curiosity, when you say 36" inch waist, do you mean according to jean sizes or by tape measure?
02-16-2012 10:40 AM
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(02-10-2012 10:16 AM)MiXX Wrote:  The reason why you have no energy during extreme Low-carb dieting and low calorie diets is because you body is deprived of Vitamin B-12, a



MIxx

This is interesting as I had serious problems after eating like a horse for a few months to try and build some muscle I put on loads of fat (got my squats up to 3x10 @ 140kgs though)tried 10 gramms of carbs a day with loads of protein and basically felt like I had a complete CNS collapse after 2-3 weeks of it I could not even squat 80 kgs and had to have 2 weeks of the gym to recover and started to slowly build the weight up again, I swore never to try low carbs again but I may research the b-12 thing.
02-19-2012 07:54 PM
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(02-12-2012 05:48 AM)Donald Duck Wrote:  Even Dr Atkins, the most anti- calorie guy in the world, used to say that you should watch your calorie intake too.

Have you ever been tested to find out your BMR (base metabolic rate) and/or VO2 Max?

Those kinds of information can be really useful in determining the best way to meet your fitness goals.

When I had my BMR checked I found out I was eating too few calories and my body was going into fat storage mode, so i was losing weight at first, but the weight I was losing was muscle. The lost muscle in turn lowered my metabolism, which in turn made it harder to continue to lose weight.

I would find a place to get those type of tests done (and maybe also get some micronutrient testing too) and then talk their professionals about the results and how they apply to your goals.
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does anyone ever get really hot (feels like fever hot) and piss like a motherfucker on low carb diets? ive been eating <75 g of carbs for the past few days and a few hours after I eat I get super hot. I also am peeing like 2 times as much as I normally do
02-26-2012 02:14 AM
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(02-26-2012 02:14 AM)WesternCancer Wrote:  does anyone ever get really hot (feels like fever hot) and piss like a motherfucker on low carb diets? ive been eating <75 g of carbs for the past few days and a few hours after I eat I get super hot. I also am peeing like 2 times as much as I normally do

carbs hold water ( i think its 1g of glycogen attaches to 2.7g water),so the higher your carb intake,the more likely the more water you will retain.

so when you start to ingest less carbs,your body will hold onto less water = why your pissing more.fats and protein dont hold onto water (or not half as much).

im not sure of the super hot feeling your getting,maybe its because your pissing more? = the fluids in your body arnt keeping your temperature down possibly.
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alright thanks for the info. I'll keep an eye on it and see if it could be anything else.
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or it could simply be the thermogenic effect of your metabolism.

Carbs don't require much energy to be broken down. Protein and Fat require a HUGE deal of energy from your body to break them down.

You are stimulating your metabolism by going on your low carb diet which does increase body temperature
02-26-2012 10:35 PM
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thats bad news for me, im already a super warm dude, i wear t-shirts when its snowing. its 5 degrees Celsius today and i was in shorts + a tshirt. I'm going to need to sleep in a fridge.
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(02-26-2012 10:35 PM)velkrum Wrote:  or it could simply be the thermogenic effect of your metabolism.

Carbs don't require much energy to be broken down. Protein and Fat require a HUGE deal of energy from your body to break them down.

You are stimulating your metabolism by going on your low carb diet which does increase body temperature

it is true that fats and proteins are harder to break down.

but what about thermics? protein has the highest TEF of the 3 macronutrients,then carbs,then fats
02-27-2012 05:30 AM
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