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Third and Fourth Tier Cities in ITALY
Normally when I go to Italy it's Milano, where I have relatives. But northern Italian girls are very heavily influenced by American- and UK-style feminism. Recently I've been doing some advance work on Google maps, checking out some 3rd and 4th tier Italian cities. REGGIO CALABRIA is where I wanna go! Plenty of big-butted southern Italian chicks with a resort-like seaside strip that goes on for miles and miles... Looks like paradise. Sure, the 'Ndrangheta (the Calabrian Mob) is there... but the place looks like da bomb, and I'm planning on checking it out on my next trip to The Boot.

Anyone been to Reggio Calabria or has any observations about smaller Italian cities? I'm also interested in Cinqueterre, Ventimiglia, San Remo and Trieste.
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I always appreciated the mezzogiorno. And the girls are probably better looking than in the north, too.

Lecce is a nice town with good vibes. In Calabria, I stayed in Tropea a couple of days. Had some good beach days there, obviously everything depends on the group you're with.

For tourism, the Cinque Terre is fantastic. For pickup maybe not so good. The towns themselves are very small, which would make locals more inhibited due to gossip. And I don't recall much nightlife.

Spent just a day in Trieste while passing through. It didn't leave much of an impression. If I wanted to hit a smaller town in that area, I'd choose Verona, or somewhere in Slovenia.

Obviously any place you have good family or friend hookups is going to be way easier.
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Cinqueterre is stunning, one of the prettiest places in the world. Of course there are lots of tourists, but dont let that stop you.

I love Trieste. But keep in mind its heavily influenced by both the Austrians (architecture) the Slovenians (laid back) and the Italians. Its an Italian city no doubt, but its a weird combination.

Strangely, Trieste is one city that I had pegged for a European home base. I see a good future there.
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This is interesting.

I love Italian culture and women and was thinking about the exact same thing just the other day.

Third/Fourth tier cities in Italy that have a nightlife niche and some sexy girls would be good.

I've got plans afoot to do a month touring around Italy in the future. I love the architecture and history also.

Siena, Cinqueterre, Parma, Firenze, Pompeii, Torino, Palermo, Cagliari, Bergamo, Bologna - so many place to see. I would love to go there and find an untapped spot so to speak, where girls don't have ruthless bitch shields!

I've heard Italian women have a thing for Spanish guys, is there any truth in this? A good Spanish friend of mine went there for over a week and killed it, he only spoke in Spanish to them as well Laugh
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You just can't worry about the mob--it involves everyone from some judges, cops, shopkeepers, politicians/mayors, just keep your nose clean and don't piss anyone off (though people in the South generally are gentle and have impeccable manners--people from the North probably think it/they is/are uncivilized--maybe their driving is)...

Good luck if you don't know any Italian...maybe it's just my own perception but if I didn't know how to speak a bit I don't know how I would have gotten around. One thing you have to be careful of in 3rd/4th tier towns in the South is that they slow down immensely if not literally shut down and/or turn into ghost towns for about 3-4 hours during the middle of the day. Unbelievably in the land of gourmet food I had to resort many days to the only McDonald's in town until I finally found alternative spots.
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Yep: you seem to have valuable info to share but the massive use of 'though' leaves us to wonder what you really want to convey. You mean the South is more of a sausage fest than the country as a whole?
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Just what is the definition for 3rd/4th teir?
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I don't think that for a foreigner spending a medium or long time in Reggio Calabria will be good, for a couple of reasons.

The language barrier will be huge there, not many people will speak english, and I'm quite sure that the hottest girls don't bother to learn it.
Plus in the south many girls have an official boyfriend since they were 16/17, this doesn't mean that they will not cheat but it makes harder to hook up.
Another problem can be that boyfriends and locals might stop you (also threatening you with violence and words) if they see you trying to pick up girls.
Remember that in small cities of the south of Italy we say that "everyone knows everyone" and as well people knows what's happening.

Anyway thats just my 2 cents...

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I also love Southern Italian women. But I think the best bet is to catch them when they're on vacation. Anybody have a clue as to where that might be?
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Third and fourth tier cities in Italy are not a good idea to visit if gaming women is your objective. Bedding women in the main tourist cities such as Florence, Rome, and Venice is hard enough. If you're headed to the southern parts of Italy, you'll have a much more difficult time than in Milan, unless you have relatives living down there. They're very traditional and old-fashioned. Go there for the food and the beauty of the surroundings, but that's about it.
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(02-10-2012 07:26 PM)dk902 Wrote:  I've heard Italian women have a thing for Spanish guys, is there any truth in this? A good Spanish friend of mine went there for over a week and killed it, he only spoke in Spanish to them as well Laugh

Yup, as I have said countless times. With Italian women, European men from any kind of archetype will be at the top of their list followed by Asian men (Japanese guys do GREAT there). I am Half Italian Half Spaniard so there is some hope for you indeed and plus where the world do Spaniards NOT kill it right?

Now on to the OP

The only type of feminists you will run into in Northern Italy are tourists from anglo countries (English, American, Canadian, and Aussies, mostly we get American and English tourists). Northern Italian women are still traditional to an extent but they are just a tad bit more open minded than their southern counterparts. Each his own experience but I guess having to deal with American women has made any European woman seem heavenly to me. I do warn you that Southern Italy is VERY traditional, you better have some connections if you want to bang girls there.

As to where to catch Italian women on vacation, try Ibiza!
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(08-02-2012 09:32 AM)Vicious Wrote:  Just what is the definition for 3rd/4th teir?

Thats the first thing that popped into my mind as well. Not to derail the thread but thinking just in terms of Texas. I guess Houston and Dallas would be first tier. Mostly because population. Second tier would be San Antonio and Austin. So I would put Corpus Christi and El Paso as third tier and the rest are shit towns.

Florida:
1st- Miami, Tampa, and Orlando
2nd- Jville and Ft Lauderdale
3rd Pensacola, ????
4th- ????

We should define the difference between 2nd and 3rd.

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(08-02-2012 12:36 PM)LobbyWin Wrote:  
(02-10-2012 07:26 PM)dk902 Wrote:  I've heard Italian women have a thing for Spanish guys, is there any truth in this? A good Spanish friend of mine went there for over a week and killed it, he only spoke in Spanish to them as well Laugh

Yup, as I have said countless times. With Italian women, European men from any kind of archetype will be at the top of their list followed by Asian men (Japanese guys do GREAT there). I am Half Italian Half Spaniard so there is some hope for you indeed and plus where the world do Spaniards NOT kill it right?

Now on to the OP

The only type of feminists you will run into in Northern Italy are tourists from anglo countries (English, American, Canadian, and Aussies, mostly we get American and English tourists). Northern Italian women are still traditional to an extent but they are just a tad bit more open minded than their southern counterparts. Each his own experience but I guess having to deal with American women has made any European woman seem heavenly to me. I do warn you that Southern Italy is VERY traditional, you better have some connections if you want to bang girls there.

As to where to catch Italian women on vacation, try Ibiza!

Is northern italy easier to get SNL?
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(08-02-2012 11:21 PM)UgSlayer Wrote:  
(08-02-2012 12:36 PM)LobbyWin Wrote:  
(02-10-2012 07:26 PM)dk902 Wrote:  I've heard Italian women have a thing for Spanish guys, is there any truth in this? A good Spanish friend of mine went there for over a week and killed it, he only spoke in Spanish to them as well Laugh

Yup, as I have said countless times. With Italian women, European men from any kind of archetype will be at the top of their list followed by Asian men (Japanese guys do GREAT there). I am Half Italian Half Spaniard so there is some hope for you indeed and plus where the world do Spaniards NOT kill it right?

Now on to the OP

The only type of feminists you will run into in Northern Italy are tourists from anglo countries (English, American, Canadian, and Aussies, mostly we get American and English tourists). Northern Italian women are still traditional to an extent but they are just a tad bit more open minded than their southern counterparts. Each his own experience but I guess having to deal with American women has made any European woman seem heavenly to me. I do warn you that Southern Italy is VERY traditional, you better have some connections if you want to bang girls there.

As to where to catch Italian women on vacation, try Ibiza!

Is northern italy easier to get SNL?
yes

mainly because southern italy can be pretty much impossible
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Easier yes, but still really hard.
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You can fuck a girl anywhere in the world in one night with enough status/props/style/character. Largely depends on the girl in question. You can find everything everywhere however in some places it is much much easier and in some much much harder.

Italy is one of the harder places.

I have lived in North Eastern Italy for a long time. This year I have lived most of the year in the Friuli Region and have lived here on and off for 16 years. Have also lived for about 5 years in Padua, a city close to Venice in the Veneto province. I grew up in Germany though.

In north eastern Italy you hook into the old-school methods. People that get laid consistently here are the ones that have lots of status and lots of connections. I often go out with a friend who is well connected and has a business in Mestre. It is very clear, if we go out in Mestre we're not going to get laid on the same night because we'll be exposed to Italians, if we go out to Venice we *might* get lucky with a tourist. Also, logistics are very important in Venice and when we do take girls back home it's to Mestre it's a 20 min walk and a 20 min car ride, so things are far from optimal. It's something we often talk about. He has stable girls that he sees but he has to be careful as well. He likes to fuck bareback (as do most, if not all Italians) and is always worried that one of the girls will trick him into getting them pregnant by saying she's just finished her period or that she's taking the pill. Then he'll be left footing the bill for the next 30+ years. Yes, that's right, in a recent court case a father and mother were ordered to financially support their 41 year old daughter since she was not financially independent.

Here is a link to the article from March 2012.
(http://corrieredelveneto.corriere.it/ven...8707.shtml)

Padova has a large University population, and by large I mean 70-80,000. Women from Padova in my experience are usually stuck up and having the right car/clothes/apartment/connections are very important. Most women I went out with and dated or slept with loathed the idea of quick sex and didn't want to be perceived as whores. Ironically, many Italian guys call the girls they aren't able to sleep with whores, which is the exact opposite of what they are but in a country where being a Puttana (whore) is the worst insult you can dish out there is some rationale to this contorted logic. It takes time to get into bed with most of the women here. The higher up the social scale you go the longer it takes and the more you will be expected to fork out in paying for drinks, dinners, getaways ecc. Although I didn't try it firsthand, friends that had these things tended to do better if they had game. Other friends would go out with girls for 6 months trying to get somewhere.

One night stands are very difficult. Don't be expecting them from Clubs. A friend of mine that has a PR company and regularly is the MC at these big clubs once told me that after working for 5 years at least 2 to 3 nights a week he slept with one girl he didn't know previously on the same night. This is a very social, very outgoing guy who often has crazy props (Uncle Sam Suit, Video Camera in the club, Head organizer for the evening and private tables in the VIP section). He doesn't do bad at all though because he's often able to sleep with girls he's seen and have seen him for a while. If you meet up with a girl you've seen for a few times and your group knows you're golden. He's also often very superficial and all over the place, he doesn't look at you seriously and talk in a meaningful manner, so while he meets a lot of girls converting is a problem for him. If you're vouched for by the group and you're cool you can really hit on the women from the group, quick, fast, physical, get alcohol involved, you probably won't bang the girl but you'll have a fun time. Some of these groups really do very well when they go out because of mad connections. It makes a big difference especially in a place where a girl won't talk to you unless properly introduced. Going out for an aperitivo is a good idea, you can meet people there. Make sure and speak English, if you speak Italian well put on a fake accent, it helps tremendously.

A friend of mine that is an American did have a one night stand with a girl that he met in a bar in Padova. He has very little game and is much more of the LTR type, so nothing's impossible. He hated it there though and left after about a year there. This is the same person who wanted to come to Italy at all costs to live the "Dolce Vita". He now lives a happy life in Boston.

People from Padova are often very stuck up. Social status, what family you're from, what type of car you drive and what you wear are vitally important.

Women are by and large hugely princesses and expect you to take care of everything. In short they are feminists when it comes to their rights and they aren't when it comes to their responsibilities. I get along great with feminists but having things both ways pisses me off to no end.

Things change with women in relationships, there comes a time when everything reverses. Although men pretend to be everything good under the sun while they are courting they can't possibly be all of these things. Slowly slowly these negative traits start to leak out. After a while the men start using the women and the princess that used to expect everything is now forced by her husband to take care of everything. Things are changing, however, in how many traditional southern families does the man cook, clean, take care of the kids and then go out to work? The Men don't the Women do. Great for the woman in the beginning and shitty in the end. Generally women tend to hang on to men once they are together and with respect to other nationalities I keep up with most of my past affairs. Many of them are open to starting things up again as well.

There is a florid older sex scene here in Italy. All of these forbidden things that people do in their 20's in the states the Italians arrive at their 40's and haven't done. They try to make up for lost time. All 20 somethings I know are very conservative sexually. There was a sexual revolution in the late 60's and usually this is connected with a school uprising in 1968 so it seems like this generation here has swung the other way. The pendulum is slowly correcting itself but it will still take time. Where I used to study medicine at the hospital most male older doctors that I knew of had something on the side. On the side however meant someone they had been seeing for years and weren't seeing anyone other than their stable affair and wife of course. It was very very common, usually something much younger and something that didn't disturb their family life at all. Family is sacred. That hasn't changed. I've heard but haven't experienced that often these wives will be frustrated and go to Dancing clubs looking to hook up with younger guys, so maybe that's an option for some of you.

AIDS is slightly on the rise. It's much more common for married men to sleep with prostitutes here with respect to the US or Germany. I get the feeling that it's not on level with Romania or Ukraine but to be fair I haven't spent more than two weeks in either so am not sure.

A female friend of mine slept with one of her professors and after they broke up he got pissed off with her for some reason or another. She wanted to become a certain type of specialist, she can't anymore. Italy is Europe now but there are over the table ways to make under the table things happen or at least make them "appear" within reasonable doubt.

Also, remember to hit on a girl in a big way. Make it painfully obvious that you are interested in her.

Body Language- Everything that isn't HELL NO! = Yes The same body language that certain other nationalities use to say "no,thank you" the Italian women use to say keep going. It may throw you at first. It really did throw me. A friend of mine was very good physically and I watched how he did things.

Italians outside of Italy are much much much better. Italian women outside of Italy have already been preselected and are much more open, engaging and interesting. Also usually more attractive.

Vacation Spots - Outside of Italy - Ibiza (haven't been), Pag (have been), Corfu (Dassia, Ipsos spent a month working here), Lloret del Mar (haven't been)
Inside Italy North - Jesolo, Lignano, Bibione (hit the clubs and this is one of the places in the summer you may get lucky haven't done this but have been to these places many times). Trieste (interesting city). Rimini (lots of Germans have been here a few times as well but mostly during the winter).
South - Puglia, Sicily (Don't know these beaches and haven't been there but a lot of my friends go and say it's good).

One more thing I wanted to point out about Southern Italy. While Naples is very dirty on the streets I've been to some of the plushest, hottest clubs in my life on the bay of Naples close to Castellamare.

Cities are much much better than smaller places. Milano, Roma, Napoli. Last time I was in Milano ended up having a threesome with a girl I meet the same night so things are definitely different there.

If you want women in small town Italy the best thing you can do is get on a plane. That's what I do.

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You might as well fap yourself, Italian girls are princess's types, VERY difficult to crack, don't even try in the south of Italy, could be a mafia connected type, and you will end up with no balls, try fucking her and you end fucked up...lol

Its why the Italian brotherhood go hunting overseas, and also crack onto tourists in Italy, like Romanians, Americans, Scando. types etc, are all hunted for sex.

Italian is a good woman to marry and family type, but uber bitch and difficult, wont be mummy time any more either, those days are over, major brain damage in the making for sure.

Looks like a bit of a dead end, WAYYYYYYYY to much effort for small return

Enjoy the country, culture, history, food etc and move on.

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I remember spending a month in Italy. I traveled from Rome all the way up to Florence. I did not visit the South (Sicily) or the extreme North (Milano).

During that month, I saw less than five "hot" women.

Coming from the FSU, it was a shocking drop-off in quality.

Instead of hot women, what I did see were young men. On the streets. On the side of the road. Walking around in the countryside. Oh, and ugly ass women.

I've met and slept with cute Italian girls...outside of Italy.

I would NOT want to play the numbers game in Italy.

There's a reason why Italian men migrate like birds in winter to the North for sex.
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I had to agree with Temujin here.

I spent about 3 weeks in Italy a few years ago and visited many of the well known cities including: Rome, Venice, Naples as well as a few other smaller cities/towns. The quality was easily some of the worst I've seen anywhere in my life, on average.

Rome was a bit better than the rest, no doubt due to large number of foreigners, in my estimation.

The percentage of women over 30-35 who were overweight and looked broken down was appalling. My impression was that Italy might be one of the hardest places on earth to find a MILF. The women just drop off big time after their 20's and in my opinion they weren't all that to begin with, even in their primes.
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(02-10-2012 06:04 PM)JTinVA Wrote:  Sure, the 'Ndrangheta (the Calabrian Mob) is there... but the place looks like da bomb, and I'm planning on checking it out on my next trip to The Boot.

does anyone know if Italian mobsters target Americans ???
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(01-17-2013 05:30 PM)GameTheory Wrote:  
(02-10-2012 06:04 PM)JTinVA Wrote:  Sure, the 'Ndrangheta (the Calabrian Mob) is there... but the place looks like da bomb, and I'm planning on checking it out on my next trip to The Boot.

does anyone know if Italian mobsters target Americans ???

LOL

The Mafia are not bothered with small fish, you will be fine, 99.94% of genuine Italians are harmless.

The issue/scammers and trouble makers in Italy today are Romanians/Gypsies and other Eastern Block imports/filth, and now new blood lately are blacks throwing their hat in the ring.

Its small time scams, pick pockets, *forced* car accidents, breaking into cars etc

Just be aware of people and any unusual activity, normally around key landmarks and tier 1 cities

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(02-10-2012 06:04 PM)JTinVA Wrote:  Normally when I go to Italy it's Milano, where I have relatives. But northern Italian girls are very heavily influenced by American- and UK-style feminism. Recently I've been doing some advance work on Google maps, checking out some 3rd and 4th tier Italian cities. REGGIO CALABRIA is where I wanna go! Plenty of big-butted southern Italian chicks with a resort-like seaside strip that goes on for miles and miles... Looks like paradise. Sure, the 'Ndrangheta (the Calabrian Mob) is there... but the place looks like da bomb, and I'm planning on checking it out on my next trip to The Boot.

Anyone been to Reggio Calabria or has any observations about smaller Italian cities? I'm also interested in Cinqueterre, Ventimiglia, San Remo and Trieste.

An older thread obviously, but thought I'd see what else was out there for Italy. Not much it seems.... For anyone interested in less known places around Italy here's my datasheet on Sicily.

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-28651.html
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(01-17-2013 03:34 PM)Technics Wrote:  The percentage of women over 30-35 who were overweight and looked broken down was appalling. My impression was that Italy might be one of the hardest places on earth to find a MILF. The women just drop off big time after their 20's and in my opinion they weren't all that to begin with, even in their primes.

That's what a very carb heavy diet consisting mostly of pasta and bread will do to you.
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This was a zombie thread in 2013.

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Yeah I didn't check the date when I quoted. My bad.
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