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Make money as a 'honey trapper'
We gigolo threads popping up regularly and the consensus is that it's bad business and even worse lifestyle unless you're Porfirio Rubirosa.

Here's a better way to make money off your game:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ating.html

This is much more interesting. If you have tight game this should be a walk in the park. This guy claims to have made 200,000 GBP in two years (sounds suspiciously high) getting paid by suspicious husbands to test their wives' faithfulness.

Of course it amounts to entrapment, and knowing women's hypergamous nature with the right swagger and game you could get a very high 'success' rate.

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This is awesome. The guys buying this service will be mostly betas with loads of dough. The girls will be one that settled with his betadom. All you need (like you said) is tight game and female hypergamy will work its magic. Its almost guaranteed she won't be faithful if you have tight game.
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All women will cheat. Doesn't matter who you are (within reason - if she actually fears for her well being because your just that politically powerful, then maybe you have nothing to worry about). All it takes is the right amount of value demonstrated above the guy she's with. Celebrity level game is definitely susceptible to hypergamy and cheating, which is an obvious statement based on observation of celebrity relationships with both celebrities and non-celebrities. Hence, paying someone to test your woman is a complete waste of money. The results will break your heart every time, should you pay the right guy.
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The Japanese are experts at this! It's big business in Japan as to avoid high alimony payments/custody of kids, etc if a woman commits adultery. I saw an HBO special on it, and will try to search for the show.


The Japanese companies that do this not only use a good looking, high-value guy, but they get OTHER FEMALES involved for "PRE-APPROVAL" of the guy who will seduce the girl! This ensures that everything is play for the girl to cheat: HIgh-Satus guy, FEMALE/PEER Pre-approval, logistics. It is sinister shit, and they have like a 90% success rate or something absurd like that.

Getting a woman to cheat is 100% easier when OTHER WOMEN convince her it is OK to do so, especially with "that guy".


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Damn, that's a pretty good business idea. Gotto keep that one in mind. It requires super tight game but its easy to see if a girl would fall for a guy. Its a bit unethical though. What if the guy shoots his wife in a jealous rage after you discovered she would cheat on him ? Don't know if i could live with that on my mind.

On the other hand, this is kind of the same work a private detective does. I bet they don't feel regret for outing a woman.

This could easily be set up with just a website.

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(02-18-2012 09:43 PM)MiXX Wrote:  The Japanese are experts at this! It's big business in Japan as to avoid high alimony payments/custody of kids, etc if a woman commits adultery. I saw an HBO special on it, and will try to search for the show.


The Japanese companies that do this not only use a good looking, high-value guy, but they get OTHER FEMALES involved for "PRE-APPROVAL" of the guy who will seduce the girl! This ensures that everything is play for the girl to cheat: HIgh-Satus guy, FEMALE/PEER Pre-approval, logistics. It is sinister shit, and they have like a 90% success rate or something absurd like that.

Getting a woman to cheat is 100% easier when OTHER WOMEN convince her it is OK to do so, especially with "that guy".


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Is the pre approval done by the girls friends or just random girls?
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(02-19-2012 12:31 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  Is the pre approval done by the girls friends or just random girls?

From what I recall on the show, the girls are hired to TALK-UP/pre-approve the guy while they get near the target cheater. Then they befriend her, and act as her friends for about a good 2 weeks, and start inviting her to parties, which is where the seducer is waiting.

EVERYTHING AT THAT POINT IS SET! The logistics for sex, female pre-approval for the seducer, a private party, nobody will ever know, her new GF's are cheering her on and giving her social acceptance/approval for having sex with the guy. It's a slam dunk basically.




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damn thats cold!

anyone good at making websites hahahaha
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(02-19-2012 02:06 PM)MiXX Wrote:  
(02-19-2012 12:31 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  Is the pre approval done by the girls friends or just random girls?

From what I recall on the show, the girls are hired to TALK-UP/pre-approve the guy while they get near the target cheater. Then they befriend her, and act as her friends for about a good 2 weeks, and start inviting her to parties, which is where the seducer is waiting.

EVERYTHING AT THAT POINT IS SET! The logistics for sex, female pre-approval for the seducer, a private party, nobody will ever know, her new GF's are cheering her on and giving her social acceptance/approval for having sex with the guy. It's a slam dunk basically.




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do you remember what the show is called?
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(02-19-2012 02:35 PM)lurker123123 Wrote:  
(02-19-2012 02:06 PM)MiXX Wrote:  
(02-19-2012 12:31 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  Is the pre approval done by the girls friends or just random girls?

From what I recall on the show, the girls are hired to TALK-UP/pre-approve the guy while they get near the target cheater. Then they befriend her, and act as her friends for about a good 2 weeks, and start inviting her to parties, which is where the seducer is waiting.

EVERYTHING AT THAT POINT IS SET! The logistics for sex, female pre-approval for the seducer, a private party, nobody will ever know, her new GF's are cheering her on and giving her social acceptance/approval for having sex with the guy. It's a slam dunk basically.




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do you remember what the show is called?

Yeah, i would like to know that too.

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Damnably brilliant.

Given the right set of circumstances, most, if not all women, would cheat.

Having to worry about shit like this is why you should AVOID SERIOUS COMMITMENT AT ALL COSTS.

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RE: Make money as a 'honey trapper'
Help me putting some pros and cons together for a job like this.

Pros
- No physical labour
- make shitloads of money if you have enough customers
- easy to set up with a website, just need a good car and to look sharp.
- doesn't seem like a stressful job, you can be your own boss
- No more than 20 or 30 hours of "work" a week (this includes back office work)
- you are pretty much free to do what you want all day
- You might end up with a rich divorcee.

cons
- you need razor sharp looks, game and etiquette.
- when you try to pick up the woman/girl, people might try to protect her from you, so an ass kicking is an option.
- not a steady job, you might earn lots for a while and then nothing for a while
- you always have to lie about your job and can barely tell anyone about it.
- You'll have to step on some hearts and brake up relationships of others.


What am i missing here ?

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(02-19-2012 02:06 PM)MiXX Wrote:  
(02-19-2012 12:31 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  Is the pre approval done by the girls friends or just random girls?

From what I recall on the show, the girls are hired to TALK-UP/pre-approve the guy while they get near the target cheater. Then they befriend her, and act as her friends for about a good 2 weeks, and start inviting her to parties, which is where the seducer is waiting.

EVERYTHING AT THAT POINT IS SET! The logistics for sex, female pre-approval for the seducer, a private party, nobody will ever know, her new GF's are cheering her on and giving her social acceptance/approval for having sex with the guy. It's a slam dunk basically.
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!!!!!!!!! HOLY SHIT what a business concept.

Forget setting up the girls. That's got to be a drag getting involved in that low down stink. Create a company to help guys seduce their love interests. Use the same tactics. In fact the fluff girls could even help find new prospects.

There must be a market for such a business. Some guys - like me for instance - don't want a straightup money for sex transaction. And not everyone finds it easy to find the time, inspiration, and mental fortitude to do cold approaches and get good at that. A service that helps find cute girls, befriend them, talk up the man, and arranges mixers - that's got to be worth beacoup green to some men.

In fact, I wonder how to go about setting up such a situation for myself. I tried something similar before, using fuck buddies, but never got it together. I'm seriously interested in setting this up.

Perhaps such a business could also be part escort agency, and the escorts could double as fluffers to the female prospects.

If anyone has the time and skill to help develop such an agency in Indonesia, I'd put my resources behind it. I can handle the web development and promotion end, and would need someone to network with girls and clients.

Also, I've always been interested in arranging web-cam sex work for Asians. I know the opportunities are there, but don't have the time investment.
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(02-20-2012 06:22 AM)xsplat Wrote:  Some guys - like me for instance - don't want a straightup money for sex transaction. And not everyone finds it easy to find the time, inspiration, and mental fortitude to do cold approaches and get good at that. A service that helps find cute girls, befriend them, talk up the man, and arranges mixers - that's got to be worth beacoup green to some men.

In theory it sounds FANTASTIC. There is however, one major flaw with your desperation for getting a HIGH-VALUE, BEAUTIFUL woman that is written all over your post:

YOU WILL STILL BE A BETA AFTER THE FACT. It's similar to a gay guy pretending to be straight because he has a "girlfriend" as a front to his family.

You cannot sustain an Alpha status (which is what you purchased), when you really are not a warrior Alpha, won't work. The girl will smell you out, and step all over you.

What does that mean? Since everything was all FAKE, the woman will eventually discover you are not the high-value, alpha guy desired she was led to believe you were. She'll see it in your behavior.

So, I'l get another one you say?

Now you'll be going back, and paying a lot more to do it 10, 20, 50, 100x more? You'd better be Saudi Prince rich to sustain paying to find new girls. If you are Saudi Prince rich, you don't need these services to begin with!

You're better off with pretty Colombian hookers in Costa Rica.

Man-up. Approach girls - no way around it. Get out of the country and go where women want guys like you, your approaches will be 90x easier, an a lot more fun! Find that place.

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(02-20-2012 10:00 AM)MiXX Wrote:  
(02-20-2012 06:22 AM)xsplat Wrote:  Some guys - like me for instance - don't want a straightup money for sex transaction. And not everyone finds it easy to find the time, inspiration, and mental fortitude to do cold approaches and get good at that. A service that helps find cute girls, befriend them, talk up the man, and arranges mixers - that's got to be worth beacoup green to some men.

In theory it sounds FANTASTIC. There is however, one major flaw with your desperation for getting a HIGH-VALUE, BEAUTIFUL woman that is written all over your post:

YOU WILL STILL BE A BETA AFTER THE FACT. It's similar to a gay guy pretending to be straight because he has a "girlfriend" as a front to his family.

You cannot sustain an Alpha status (which is what you purchased), when you really are not a warrior Alpha, won't work. The girl will smell you out, and step all over you.

What does that mean? Since everything was all FAKE, the woman will eventually discover you are not the high-value, alpha guy desired she was led to believe you were. She'll see it in your behavior.

So, I'l get another one you say?

Now you'll be going back, and paying a lot more to do it 10, 20, 50, 100x more? You'd better be Saudi Prince rich to sustain paying to find new girls. If you are Saudi Prince rich, you don't need these services to begin with!

You're better off with pretty Colombian hookers in Costa Rica.

Man-up. Approach girls - no way around it. Get out of the country and go where women want guys like you, your approaches will be 90x easier, an a lot more fun! Find that place.

Mixx

Get out of what country? What country do you assume that I'm in? You seem to have a lot of assumptions, based on a desire to use these same successful tactics that are used in this business for personal aims.

I don't agree with your assumption that everyone needs to be a cold approach expert in order to be overall successful and dominant with women. There are plenty of different ways and styles to meet - approach is just one of them.
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(02-20-2012 02:56 PM)xsplat Wrote:  Get out of what country? What country do you assume that I'm in?


ANY country you are in you find that women are not responding to your style. That can be in Brazil, It can be in China, it can be in Canada, find your Fishbowl is what I was referring to Noob. If you are willing to pay for fake social proof and fake admiration from hired women to attract hot women.

(02-20-2012 02:56 PM)xsplat Wrote:  There are plenty of different ways and styles to meet - approach is just one of them.

Fantastic!! Bust out a data sheet for us on your most successful ways of meeting women that do not involve approaching them. I'd love to read it! When can we expect it?


(02-20-2012 02:56 PM)xsplat Wrote:  I don't agree with your assumption that everyone needs to be a cold approach expert in order to be overall successful and dominant with women.

I love to read others disagree. That means you got knowledge to share, that's what this forum is about. So, what are your suggestions to meet women without having to Cold Aproach them you feel we are not aware of here?

I think we are all going to wait for this breakdown on the edge of our seat.


(02-20-2012 02:56 PM)xsplat Wrote:  You seem to have a lot of assumptions, based on a desire to use these same successful tactics that are used in this business for personal aims.

Huh?

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(02-20-2012 09:23 PM)MiXX Wrote:  ANY country you are in you find that women are not responding to your style. Noob.
It's looking like I'm going to have a difficult time following your "logic" and train of thought on this. Because I see how well wingwomen worked in the business that was discussed on this thread, notice how it could also work for me, and may take steps to implement such help to seduction, it therefore means that women are not responding to my style, and I'm a noob. That kind of thinking seems very religious to me. Someone transgressed a rule, and is therefore not one of the true righteous believers in the one pure way. The one pure way of cold approach!

(02-20-2012 09:23 PM)MiXX Wrote:  So, what are your suggestions to meet women without having to Cold Aproach them you feel we are not aware of here?

You are aware of plenty of others. I'm sure with your experience here you could draw up an extensive list.

I do well with meeting girls online. I'll occasionally approach, and have had a high success rate for the few times I've done that, but have mostly done that when single for a while and very horny. When I'm getting regularly laid I have less motivation. Arranging dates online has worked very well for me for a long time - once I get the meet setup things tend to go well.

I do want to work on improving my cold approach, but I find your ideas about using wing-girls and paid for social proof to be presumptuous well past the point of arrogance and into the territory of antisocial. To assume so much because a guy wants to use wingwomen - you have a big religious rulebook and if a rule is being broken you get sooo much "information" from that.
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It's interesting that when money and reputation is on the line, the genius pick up artist employs every advantage he can. And it's very interesting what tools he chooses to employ. Other girls as social proof that talk to his prospect, set the tone, and talk him up.

I'm not interested in purist attitudes. When it's not about proving a point about how good your game is, but it's about results, or when money is on the line, fuck purism.

This is a genius idea. If my business was seduction I'd be derelict in my duties to not use it. And if my personal interest was seduction for the sake of getting the girls I want (not for the sake of being good at it), I'd be just as remiss.
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(02-21-2012 01:34 AM)xsplat Wrote:  You are aware of plenty of others. I'm sure with your experience here you could draw up an extensive list.

I have. Just search the forum for it and look at my reputation count on the forum. I've written dozens and dozens of posts on approaching women.

So, you gonna break your styles for us, or was your reply just barking with no substance?


(02-21-2012 04:03 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  I do well with meeting girls online. I'll occasionally approach, and have had a high success rate for the few times I've done that, but have mostly done that when single for a while and very horny. When I'm getting regularly laid I have less motivation. Arranging dates online has worked very well for me for a long time - once I get the meet setup things tend to go well.

Laugh cute.

Nothing wrong with online pipelining, we all do it. However, you were full of emotions in your response that cold approaching was NOT the only way, and you knew plenty more. So, I had to ask...what are they? Don't get sensitive about it man, its all about sharing intel to bang high-value women for least amount of $$$ and effort here.

The whole jist of my post to you is: you cannot get around not approaching women, it's weak inner game and confidence issues to hide behind the comforts of your own home, where you feel "protected" against evil women (and arrogant assholes like me who will challenge you on the field) who will reject you for approaching them.

BUt, if you want to start a business (or be a client) of fake social proof, and fake alpha-ness...be my guest. If you are in America, you'd probably get funding to start it up from Uncle Sam! Smile

Seems you are not ready for the red pill yet.


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It sounds like a cool business idea. I think to be successful with it you'd probably have to be a very good looking guy. Even if my game is decent, I don't think I could pull it of since I usually have to approach many girls and get rejected before finding the ones who come through. I'm simply not the guy who walks into a room and makes girls swoon, but if someone is I think it's a great idea.
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(02-20-2012 05:26 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  Help me putting some pros and cons together for a job like this.

Pros
- No physical labour
- make shitloads of money if you have enough customers
- easy to set up with a website, just need a good car and to look sharp.
- doesn't seem like a stressful job, you can be your own boss
- No more than 20 or 30 hours of "work" a week (this includes back office work)
- you are pretty much free to do what you want all day
- You might end up with a rich divorcee.

cons
- you need razor sharp looks, game and etiquette.
- when you try to pick up the woman/girl, people might try to protect her from you, so an ass kicking is an option.
- not a steady job, you might earn lots for a while and then nothing for a while
- you always have to lie about your job and can barely tell anyone about it.
- You'll have to step on some hearts and brake up relationships of others.


What am i missing here ?

Instead of going off topic although i do agree with Mixx's valid points, does anyone have an answer to my above question. I'm surprised no one else here is interested in a professional player lifestyle that pays well and is easy to start up without much money.

You don't have to fuck the women you seduce either, in case they are old hags. You seduce them to the point that you can clearly kiss them. Its perfect for semi young players between the age of 30 and 40. Not too young to be seen as green and mature enough to professionally pick up women of 40+

Ill bet may rich guys marrying a younger girl would want test their women before committing and having to risk half their cash in a divorce. I think you can easily ask a few thousand for this discreet and professional service. Two customers a month is enough to pay your bills and live a good lifestyle.

Opinions ?? Am i missing something here ?

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(02-21-2012 10:40 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  
(02-20-2012 05:26 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  Help me putting some pros and cons together for a job like this.

Pros
- No physical labour
- make shitloads of money if you have enough customers
- easy to set up with a website, just need a good car and to look sharp.
- doesn't seem like a stressful job, you can be your own boss
- No more than 20 or 30 hours of "work" a week (this includes back office work)
- you are pretty much free to do what you want all day
- You might end up with a rich divorcee.

cons
- you need razor sharp looks, game and etiquette.
- when you try to pick up the woman/girl, people might try to protect her from you, so an ass kicking is an option.
- not a steady job, you might earn lots for a while and then nothing for a while
- you always have to lie about your job and can barely tell anyone about it.
- You'll have to step on some hearts and brake up relationships of others.


What am i missing here ?

Instead of going off topic although i do agree with Mixx's valid points, does anyone have an answer to my above question. I'm surprised no one else here is interested in a professional player lifestyle that pays well and is easy to start up without much money.

You don't have to fuck the women you seduce either, in case they are old hags. You seduce them to the point that you can clearly kiss them. Its perfect for semi young players between the age of 30 and 40. Not too young to be seen as green and mature enough to professionally pick up women of 40+

Ill bet may rich guys marrying a younger girl would want test their women before committing and having to risk half their cash in a divorce. I think you can easily ask a few thousand for this discreet and professional service. Two customers a month is enough to pay your bills and live a good lifestyle.

Opinions ?? Am i missing something here ?

I think the most important thing in this business is to persuade the husband that you are extremely good with women. The guy in the article seems very good looking, however if he's simply not the target's type or she wasn't in the mood that day, she may reject him although she'll happily whore it up with the next random guy, outside of her husbands watch. To me, personally, if I was that hypothetical beta husband, this service wouldn't give me a peace of mind at all. Some girls have a very particular taste and I was sometimes dumbfounded about what guys my female friend found physically attractive and who they didn't. There are hot girls that like their men a little chubby or bald. The only 2 traits that from my experience seem to be universally appealing to women (and even there are outliers) are height and confidence.

The Japanese setup seems very interesting however. I assume that the in these cases there is a lot of money at stake so the production will be very high. In addition to fake girlfriends they can find the one guy that would be most likely the target's type, or let multiple guys hit on her over a period of time until she breaks. I would think that in these cases the probability of "success" approaches 100%...
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RE: Make money as a 'honey trapper'
(02-21-2012 07:02 PM)SVK Wrote:  The Japanese setup seems very interesting however. I assume that the in these cases there is a lot of money at stake so the production will be very high. In addition to fake girlfriends they can find the one guy that would be most likely the target's type, or let multiple guys hit on her over a period of time until she breaks. I would think that in these cases the probability of "success" approaches 100%...
That Japanese seduction technology is some high tech wonder-shit. I'd love to learn more about how to reverse engineer it.

Having communities that encourage each other and learn from each other has been a great boon to men to test their theories and practice as a community, but how much more results oriented must your technique be when there is money on the line, and a group of people are involved in a venture that is their bread and butter.

I understand the value of men pushing each other to approach - to get a bit religious about it and motivate each other. It's a good skill to have and the barriers to learning it are high - motivating each other is a great way to get past those barriers. But here is a different technique that is outstandingly more effective. Have a girl approach first.

If you already have years of experience and well developed social skills with women, I don't see the worry in letting your game atrophy by using aids. Be it a business suit, a wingman, a fedora, a big bankroll, or a buff body, any thing that helps you with women is not ultimately a handicap because it detracts from using pure game - it's ultimately another tool to help you get the job done. And if you put the same mindset into seduction as a real business, and be results oriented rather than process oriented, this can only increase success. Unless your point of gaming girls is to be good at a particular part of the process.

Are some people here really that invested in cold approach? What if you could develop every other aspect of game, but no longer had any need to approach? Would you feel you were losing some big important part of your personality if you just let that go? Would you feel that you are cheating by not limiting yourself to limited rules of engagement? If working as a team with girls in the process of seduction gets you better success with higher quality girls, at the cost of lessening the excitement of challenge and lessening your self reliance during the very initial stages of interaction, is that a cost worth paying?

To say that without hard core cold approach skills that you can't have strong skills with women is like saying that unless you are an expert surfer you have no maritime ability. Approach is a small fraction of the total interaction that we have with those we get intimate with. Who needs it? Really - do you need that - and if so why? Why not just bypass it altogether? Are you addicted to your process, or is it the result that you want?

I'd love to hear some real practical advice as to how to copy what the Japanese do. I admire their seduction technology. They've taken an entirely different approach, and have taken things to the next level.
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RE: Make money as a 'honey trapper'
I'm recently in contact with a bi-sexual girl I saw online and offered her occasional use of one of my local apartments. I'm going to try to put her to use in this venture to recruit girls for me, and for threesomes.

The monthly cost of the mid-range apartment to me is a fraction of a days pay. I have no financial reason not to do it, and therefore would be silly not to. Perhaps recruiting girls to my aid in this way can work - go for the slutty bisexuals.

I can fly girls in from other locations for this venture. Airfare in my location is just a hundred bucks or so one way from most major cities. Girls let loose more when they know word won't get around to their home town friends and family.

I don't really need to monetize this, but if anyone else would like to, let me know.

I know people who've done well with dating introduction services. The escort industry can also be a good business, as can webcam and photography work. If anyone wants to leave their daily grind and move out to the tropics to try their hand in these various pimping endeavors, let me know your detailed ideas if you are serious.

For an escort agency we'd need someone to cold approach the disco-whores and discuss financial arrangements. We'd also need to market an online escort service - my plan would be to target regions such as Hong Kong, Japan, Russia, and ban access from local in-country I.P. addresses. I have people who can post on sex tourist and travel forums, and have some knowledge of internet marketting and a team to build that end of things. An affiliate system would also need to be promoted; tell your buddies and earn 20% commission on a sex tourist or introduction service package kind of thing.

I can imagine selling one service which would be two wingwomen to accompany the man out for a night on the town. Another is pay for play. Another is introduction to vetted marriage minded girls. Another is webcam and photography work. Webcam whores abound, but theres still money in it, and there's still money to be made licensing quality nude photographs. Another business would be to scour the local dating websites and perhaps even facebook and hand pick only the hottest girls for inclusion in a high cost dating website and introduction service. Cheap labor would handle that grunt work - a few full time staff for the job could be paid for by 10 subscriptions. Girls from that website would be informed of other opportunities within the organization. And for the hard core, another could be a website selling a subscription to watching you fuck the locals.
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RE: Make money as a 'honey trapper'
(02-21-2012 07:02 PM)SVK Wrote:  
(02-21-2012 10:40 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  
(02-20-2012 05:26 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  Help me putting some pros and cons together for a job like this.

Pros
- No physical labour
- make shitloads of money if you have enough customers
- easy to set up with a website, just need a good car and to look sharp.
- doesn't seem like a stressful job, you can be your own boss
- No more than 20 or 30 hours of "work" a week (this includes back office work)
- you are pretty much free to do what you want all day
- You might end up with a rich divorcee.

cons
- you need razor sharp looks, game and etiquette.
- when you try to pick up the woman/girl, people might try to protect her from you, so an ass kicking is an option.
- not a steady job, you might earn lots for a while and then nothing for a while
- you always have to lie about your job and can barely tell anyone about it.
- You'll have to step on some hearts and brake up relationships of others.


What am i missing here ?

Instead of going off topic although i do agree with Mixx's valid points, does anyone have an answer to my above question. I'm surprised no one else here is interested in a professional player lifestyle that pays well and is easy to start up without much money.

You don't have to fuck the women you seduce either, in case they are old hags. You seduce them to the point that you can clearly kiss them. Its perfect for semi young players between the age of 30 and 40. Not too young to be seen as green and mature enough to professionally pick up women of 40+

Ill bet may rich guys marrying a younger girl would want test their women before committing and having to risk half their cash in a divorce. I think you can easily ask a few thousand for this discreet and professional service. Two customers a month is enough to pay your bills and live a good lifestyle.

Opinions ?? Am i missing something here ?

I think the most important thing in this business is to persuade the husband that you are extremely good with women. The guy in the article seems very good looking, however if he's simply not the target's type or she wasn't in the mood that day, she may reject him although she'll happily whore it up with the next random guy, outside of her husbands watch. To me, personally, if I was that hypothetical beta husband, this service wouldn't give me a peace of mind at all. Some girls have a very particular taste and I was sometimes dumbfounded about what guys my female friend found physically attractive and who they didn't. There are hot girls that like their men a little chubby or bald. The only 2 traits that from my experience seem to be universally appealing to women (and even there are outliers) are height and confidence.

The Japanese setup seems very interesting however. I assume that the in these cases there is a lot of money at stake so the production will be very high. In addition to fake girlfriends they can find the one guy that would be most likely the target's type, or let multiple guys hit on her over a period of time until she breaks. I would think that in these cases the probability of "success" approaches 100%...

@SVK i think its key to have background info on the girl that the husband can provide. Things like musical choice,hobbies,sports etc etc would make it easier to fine tune the game your gonna use on the target. If its paid well you can have a "stake out" and watch the personal habits of the woman. You can "run" into her at the mall or supermarket,do some day game on her and than "accidently" see her again in a bar or club later.

Although being good looking is important its always better to have tight conversational game. Most women are looking for a guy to connect with on more things than only sex.

you can pay a wingwomen to help you out or have a have a couple of guys on standby with different looks or skin color.

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