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Ringo's São Paulo Datasheet
Olá, amigos!

This datasheet contains some of my favorites spots in São Paulo, a city I love and where I've been living since I was born. Having fun and meeting good girls in São Paulo is not hard. But being the city as enormous as it is, knowing where to go is really important.

In this post, I tried to cover places for both day and night, plus some good places to eat. In the majority, the places I recommend are cheap or at least not very expensive for the paulistano standards, except maybe for the restaurants. It's a long post, be ready.

In these spots you'll see all kinds of girls. However, the main type is the young (< 25 yo), college student, rocker/indie/hipster/alternative girl. They are, in average, slim, 1,66m and dark haired. I'd estimate that 90% of people in this scene can speak english. Although most girls are open to talking to gringos, knowing some portuguese is pretty important, as some of them are self-conscious about speak english in front of people.

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>>> Smoking: almost everyone in this scene smokes. If they don't, they'll tolerate it. Plus, smoker's areas in these places are usually a great place to meet DTF girls. Bring extra cigs and and a lighter and game on!

>>> People are usually dressed in jeans, shoes/boots, shirts/tshirts. Some have leather jackets. It'll be hard to spot people in suits/work clothes.

>>> Many of these places have gay customers. I'd avoid visiting this scene if you have strong hatred towards/hate been approached by gays.

>>> Pretty much all the clubs have bars or botecos nearby. Clubs open at 12. Get to the place and 10, warm up until 12 or 1am and then go inside!

>>> Remember to access the websites and put your name on the list. This allows you to save money and sometimes it's the only way to go inside!

>>> I'd say 85% of the people in this scene are open to smoke weed or hash. If you have some, use it! It's also a great way to get girls to your place.

>>> I'd advise against going in caveman in most of these places. Be cool, but be aggressive. Try not to take too long, though, as competition can be pretty fierce.

I hope you'll enjoy my guide as much as I appreciate all of your tips. Here it is:

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Livraria Cultura
Huge bookstore on Avenida Paulista. The place has many floors and there's always a lot of people inside. Plus, there's always new ones coming in. On top of that, there's a café inside where you can read books, talk to girls, read books and talk to girls.

Staircase by Reserva Cultural/Cásper Líbero
Cásper is a college also located in Av. Paulista. There's a wide variety of girls who attend there, but it is a private school focused on social communication. Many of the girls who study there pretty much rely on looking good to make a living.
The staircase is a good spot because, adding up to Cásper, you have all the people walking around the Avenida, you have the bus stop right in front of you, frequented by a ton of girls, and there's the Reserva Cultural, a cult/art cinema. Oh, and there's also a cursinho (prep school for college admission), Objetivo, on the same building.

Urbe Café
A small café 20m from Rua Augusta, frequented by a lot of girls. Try to grab a seat on one of the tables outside, grab a coffee, light a cig, have a good time.

Pça Benedito Calixto
On weekends there's a flea market on the square. They sell all kinds of antiques, LPs, books, and a lot of girls come to check the stuff out. You can also sit at a café/bar nearby and let them come to you.

Parque Ibirapuera
New York has Central Park, São Paulo has the Ibirapuera. There's always a lot of people here. Weekends attract more families, but you also get more young people doing picnics and girls playing sports.

Parque Villa-Lobos
Smaller than Ibirapuera, and frequented by richer people.

Parque do Povo
Smaller than Villa-Lobos, but a good relaxed vibe.

Galeria dos Pães
This is a huge bakery close to the Paulista Avenue and the expensive side of Augusta Street. There's always girls coming in and out, either from work, gym or clubs. Grab a bite at 11pm and see what they're going to do later. Or come at 4am and get digits for the next time! Warning: girls here are usually the posh type.

Bella Paulista
Similar to Galeria dos Pães, this is also a big bakery. This one's located on the other side of the Augusta, so it is mostly frequented by the alternative crowd at night. You'll still find every group here, though.

Kinoplex Itaim
Located in R. Joaquim Floriano, this place is inside an open mall with restaurants. The street also has a lot of bar and restaurants. Go on a saturday afternoon to talk to girls. Or try the weekdays on lunch hour and focus on the street, as there are many, many offices in the region and everyone goes out for lunch.

restaurants
Piola
Awesome pizza place in Al. Lorena, close to Paulista. Sit at the bar, order some starters and a drink. Mostly young, alternative rich girls.

Ritz
There are 3 units: one in Iguatemi Mall (good), one in Itaim (good) and one in Al. Franca (traditional gay spot). Order a Ritz Burger and a Raspberry Merengue for dessert. Frequented by rich girls.

Nou
Great restaurant, great food. Price is about the same as Ritz, but their food is much better! Very cool girls walking around, mostly college students with some family money.

Lorena 1989
Good food, more expensive than the other ones. Girls here are quite beautiful and dressed up. Dress stylish!

Frevo
Very relaxed and cheap burger joint. There's two units, one if each side of Paulista. I'd stick to the one on R. Oscar Freire.

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Beco 203
Good spot for rock parties. Their most popular party is Glow in the Dark, when they everyone dresses in white and they give markers that glowing in the dark and everyone writes on each other. Cover is about R$20

Studio SP
A good live spot music. They usually play rock, but I've seen samba-rock and dancing nights there. Cover is about R$20.

Jazz nos Fundos
One of my favorites spots in São Paulo. Don't expect to meet many girls here. It's a small, quiet bar pretty much hidden and still a bit secretive. Come if you want to enjoy great live jazz, bring a girl you want to impress, or both. Cover is about R$10, sometimes you get a drink, too. Check their website to see what's the limit time you can get in for free.

Teta (no website) - R. Cardeal Arcoverde, 1265
Very much like Jazz nos Fundos. You can game girls while you smoke a cig outside, but although in the lower part you can talk a bit louder, on the upper part you're too close to the band and you're supposed to be quiet. Their doorman is awesome. Cover is about R$5-10.

Alberta #3
Another rock venue. Their ceiling is really low and sometimes it can get really crowded. Floor and 1st floor are always open and work as a bar. They have a dancefloor on the basement where you can get some decent results. Frequented mostly by rockers. Don't go if you hate tattoos. Cover is usually R$25.

Glória
This is a gay club. Many girls come to dance and there's a good chance gays will hit on you. Be cool, make friends, tell them you prefer girls, be polite. There's a good chance they'll wing for you!

D-Edge
Great club! There's usually 2 dancefloors open. Sometimes they have live music on the one of the bottom floor. If you hate smoking, don't come here: the best part is the amazing terrace where everyone chain-smokes. Be careful with marijuana and hash here.

Voodoohop
My favorite party. Voodoohop started as a travelling party, but they now have a regular spot in the center of the city. The parties happen in a whole floor of an old building. Each room has a different lighting and there's a few dancefloors. They play all kinds of music. Be ready to see some crazy shit if you go! Rocker girls, alternative girls, fashion girls, models, you get everything. Cover's R$10-30. Also, they sometimes make weekend-long parties just outside São Paulo. Check the website!

Neu
A place that I've only been to a few times, but that is already one of my favorites. The venue is an old family house. The old living room is now a dancefloor, and the backyard serves as good spot to start conversations. If you bring a joint, you'll make friends in the terrace. College girls from 18-24 are the majority. Cover's like R$20. Don't go if it's raining!

College parties (ESPM, FAAP, PUC, Mackenzie, USP, Cásper Líbero)
There are so many it's hard to say where to go.
USP has a famous happy hour on thursday's at ECA (Social communication and Arts School). There's also one on FAU (Arquitecture and Urbanism) on fridays. Cheap drinks, girls who like gringos, easy, relaxed atmosphere. Also no-go if raining.
Pretty much everyday people drink in the bars near ESPM, FAAP, PUC and Mackenzie.
For Cásper, go to the Escadão or to the bars in Augusta or Brigadeiro Faria Lima.
Also, Oba-Oba has a good list of the main college parties this year. Website's in portuguese, though.

Don't forget to hit me up if you're in town. Good luck!

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Good data sheet. São Paulo is a dope city even though its hectic. I'm guessing you are more into the rock scene. I saw a cool Bob Marley cover band at Studio SP one night. I thought Vegas was pretty solid club and a good place to meet girls.

I smoked weed a few times with some dudes on Rua Augusta. I also been to a couple Voodoo hop parties in the centro because I had a friend that was all about them. I also saw a good jazz band out in Barra Funda at Clube Berlin. Also there is this hidden bar/club that is in Vila Madelana near Rua Teodoro Sampaio there is no sign and you just go up these stairs and their is also a rooftop area to chill. I found this place randomly on my first night in SP.
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Good sheet, makes me miss SP. I'd love to go back and live there for a few months but it's just too expensive.

Quote:Glória
This is a gay club. Many girls come to dance and there's a good chance gays will hit on you. Be cool, make friends, tell them you prefer girls, be polite. There's a good chance they'll wing for you!

D-Edge
Great club! There's usually 2 dancefloors open. Sometimes they have live music on the one of the bottom floor. If you hate smoking, don't come here: the best part is the amazing terrace where everyone chain-smokes. Be careful with marijuana and hash here

These are the only 2 clubs you mentioned that I've been to.

Not a fan of Gloria and definitely a lot of gay guys and lesbians, not that it's an issue for me. I spent 2hrs with a girl in Gloria, chatting away, drinking, dancing and then at the end of the night when I asked her if we were going back to hers she told me she was a lesbian!

I really like D-Edge. Monday night was when I used to go. Always packed, rock music, pretty young students and I enjoyed (when it's not raining) hanging around on the rooftop chatting to girls. They all speak English, are well educated and have money too which is great.

I also enjoyed Vegas, Fun House, Astroneti (something like that, at Augusta) and many other places but I forget the names. Great city for nightlife.

Quote:Tips:
>>> Smoking: almost everyone in this scene smokes. If they don't, they'll tolerate it. Plus, smoker's areas in these places are usually a great place to meet DTF girls. Bring extra cigs and and a lighter and game on!

>>> People are usually dressed in jeans, shoes/boots, shirts/tshirts. Some have leather jackets. It'll be hard to spot people in suits/work clothes.

>>> Many of these places have gay customers. I'd avoid visiting this scene if you have strong hatred towards/hate been approached by gays.

>>> Pretty much all the clubs have bars or botecos nearby. Clubs open at 12. Get to the place and 10, warm up until 12 or 1am and then go inside!

>>> Remember to access the websites and put your name on the list. This allows you to save money and sometimes it's the only way to go inside!

>>> I'd say 85% of the people in this scene are open to smoke weed or hash. If you have some, use it! It's also a great way to get girls to your place.

>>> I'd advise against going in caveman in most of these places. Be cool, but be aggressive. Try not to take too long, though, as competition can be pretty fierce.

Great tips, someone else told me about getting the name on the guestlist and it was a great idea. Could often skip queues or get in cheaper. Every club seems to be gay friendly to an extent, noticed it much more than any other city I've been to.
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Frevo is not a cheap place!

I am ahead to Beco tomorrow... If anyone wants to meet up!

And... To sum up: LOOOOOOOCOOOOO, LOCO, LOCO, LOCO, EU SOU DA CÁSPER!

Deixa que essa fase é passageira, amanhã será melhor você vai ver a cidade inteira seu samba saber de cor!
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D-Edge
On the Rocks (Mondays)
Rock music, either very young (< 24 yo) or much older (> 34).
   
   
   
   
   

Moving (Thursdays)
Electronic music, average demographic is about 22-30 year olds.
   
   
   
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From the last Glow in the Dark party at Beco 203.
Rock music, girls under 25.
   
   
   
   
   

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Long time since I wrote this post.

I'll update some spots and tips soon, but for now, here's a relevant link if you are spending Carnaval in SP: http://carnavalderua.prefeitura.sp.gov.b...encao.html

On this website (which will start running on the next few days) you can check the schedule for the street parties and parades (blocos de rua), so you don't miss out. There will be more than 170 parades during the holiday, and it's a great time to pull ONS and have fun.

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Currently in SP on a work visa, cab fares are killing me so far but I quite like it here
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Solid data sheet, albeit a bit outdated considering it has been two years. Studio SP has closed. Gloria too.

I'll throw in my two cents regarding alternative/hispter venues at Centro that are missing on the list.

Cine Jóia: Located in a shithole of a street in Liberdade district, it's actually pretty cool once you get inside. It's an old cinema from the 1950's that now hosts music gigs of many different styles, from rock to samba, and a few parties as well. Easy to pick up as well, even in LGBT nights when there are fewer girls but no competition.

Lions Club: Cool venue with a massive terrace outside where people smoke and get a great view of the city center, and some nice electronic music playing in the background. I dislike the people that go there though, so not really my cup of tea. Also located at Centro. Thursday nights are LGBT if I'm not mistaken, and the other nights are gay friendly too.

Club Yacht: Same vibe as the ones above. Wednesdays and Saturdays are LGBT nights (notice a trend there?). On Friday it feels like a college party, the crowd will be mostly comprised of rich university kids, you'll struggle to find someone over 25 there. There's a traditional business school in the surroundings, that's why.

Other than that, I used to go a lot to d.edge until the ratios became really bad, so I stopped going. I once pulled a virgin ONS from there, though. Laugh

I don't go much to these clubs because they don't fit my vibe. I'm older and girls consider me too preppy. I'll eventually drop some data on the more posh clubs to complement this list.
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I'm liking these Sampa threads... much appreciated guys!

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(02-11-2014 10:42 AM)Ringo Wrote:  Long time since I wrote this post.

I'll update some spots and tips soon, but for now, here's a relevant link if you are spending Carnaval in SP: http://carnavalderua.prefeitura.sp.gov.b...encao.html

On this website (which will start running on the next few days) you can check the schedule for the street parties and parades (blocos de rua), so you don't miss out. There will be more than 170 parades during the holiday, and it's a great time to pull ONS and have fun.

Catraca Livre, a popular website for free/cheap events, launched a good app this week. You can check out the nearest blocos on a map, filter by date, etc.

(02-11-2014 05:54 PM)shotgun Wrote:  Solid data sheet, albeit a bit outdated considering it has been two years. Studio SP has closed. Gloria too.

I'll throw in my two cents regarding alternative/hispter venues at Centro that are missing on the list.

Cine Jóia: Located in a shithole of a street in Liberdade district, it's actually pretty cool once you get inside. It's an old cinema from the 1950's that now hosts music gigs of many different styles, from rock to samba, and a few parties as well. Easy to pick up as well, even in LGBT nights when there are fewer girls but no competition.

Lions Club: Cool venue with a massive terrace outside where people smoke and get a great view of the city center, and some nice electronic music playing in the background. I dislike the people that go there though, so not really my cup of tea. Also located at Centro. Thursday nights are LGBT if I'm not mistaken, and the other nights are gay friendly too.

Club Yacht: Same vibe as the ones above. Wednesdays and Saturdays are LGBT nights (notice a trend there?). On Friday it feels like a college party, the crowd will be mostly comprised of rich university kids, you'll struggle to find someone over 25 there. There's a traditional business school in the surroundings, that's why.

Other than that, I used to go a lot to d.edge until the ratios became really bad, so I stopped going. I once pulled a virgin ONS from there, though. Laugh

I don't go much to these clubs because they don't fit my vibe. I'm older and girls consider me too preppy. I'll eventually drop some data on the more posh clubs to complement this list.
Yes, I'll try to write an update this week.

Good picks, I specially like Cine Jóia: lotsa hip chicks, some models. I'm not a fan of Yacht though. It's on the expensive side, full of gay divas, preppy guys and bitchy girls, at least in my experience.

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Kinda off topic, but would anybody have any good data input for Campos do Jordão?

I hear it's a pretty happening resort town in Sampa state with the highest altitude in Brazil whereas Curitiba is merely just the steepest major city in the country.

When's the best time to go for these bitches?




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^^Autumn and winter holidays are when these parties are happening in Campos.

Corpus Christi and Labor Day weekends are your best picks. http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/brazil/

Also during the whole month of July (school winter holidays), there's always something happening especially during weekends.
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Looks like a fun place to go camping for a weekend or throw a hellacious bonfire party. 2 hours from Sampa and there's a state park right there. Bring a couple kags of eggnog and brandy, a sound system, hand out phenibut at the gate... what's not to love?

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How much does it cost per month to live in Sao Paulo?

Is it difficult for a foreigner to get a job?

I am tossing up between living in Medellin and Sao Paulo to study Spanish or portuguese but it seems as though Brazil is just too expensive.
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What is your current cost of living in AU? I was pleasantly surprised at the cost of living in Sao Paulo after hearing about how expensive it was. As an example, you're not going to live high on the hog as an English teacher, but you can certainly make a living there teaching English. Perhaps a better question might be to ask yourself what you want to do with the language skill you acquire in Medellin or Sampa, because Spanish is a lot more transferable than Portuguese. If you want to bang latinas or have an international business, Spanish gives you the language skills to do that in almost any Latin American country but Brazil.

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(03-08-2014 04:16 AM)Capitán Peligroso Wrote:  What is your current cost of living in AU? I was pleasantly surprised at the cost of living in Sao Paulo after hearing about how expensive it was. As an example, you're not going to live high on the hog as an English teacher, but you can certainly make a living there teaching English. Perhaps a better question might be to ask yourself what you want to do with the language skill you acquire in Medellin or Sampa, because Spanish is a lot more transferable than Portuguese. If you want to bang latinas or have an international business, Spanish gives you the language skills to do that in almost any Latin American country but Brazil.

I am just learning languages for fun, if I work I probably wouldn't really want to teach english I would really like to continue working in my field (Information technology).

If I am not working in Sao Paulo I will not want to spend more than $2k a month, just trying to work out if this is doable while studying portuguese and living alone at the same time.
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(03-08-2014 03:18 AM)Juicy Wrote:  Is it difficult for a foreigner to get a job?

You'll need a company to sponsor you and file a request with the Ministerio do Trabalho e Emprego if you want to legally work here.

There are people who work illegally on tourist visas privately teaching English or whatnot.
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(03-08-2014 06:59 AM)Juicy Wrote:  
(03-08-2014 04:16 AM)Capitán Peligroso Wrote:  What is your current cost of living in AU? I was pleasantly surprised at the cost of living in Sao Paulo after hearing about how expensive it was. As an example, you're not going to live high on the hog as an English teacher, but you can certainly make a living there teaching English. Perhaps a better question might be to ask yourself what you want to do with the language skill you acquire in Medellin or Sampa, because Spanish is a lot more transferable than Portuguese. If you want to bang latinas or have an international business, Spanish gives you the language skills to do that in almost any Latin American country but Brazil.

I am just learning languages for fun, if I work I probably wouldn't really want to teach english I would really like to continue working in my field (Information technology).

If I am not working in Sao Paulo I will not want to spend more than $2k a month, just trying to work out if this is doable while studying portuguese and living alone at the same time.

Based on what you've said I would choose Medellin / Spanish of SP / Portuguese.

Medellin is much less expensive, the girls are hotter, and Spanish is a more universal language. Though, I think this last point is not that big of a deal as Brazil is as large and culturally diverse as the rest of LatAm combined and once you learn one language the other is easy.

Regarding costs, you can get by relatively comfortably in SP on $2k now that the exchange rate is nearly 2.5:1. At 1.7:1 where it was 2 years ago it would be much tighter.

With a R$ 5k budget:

Look to spend R$ 2k on a studio apartment in a decent area. They can be found for cheaper, but for you it might be hard not doing a long term lease, not being able to prove a local income, and not having someone guarantee your lease. I'd look in the Bela Vista / Consolação area close to the Paulista or Consolação Metro stop. Good nightlife, good logistics (a lot of the better neighborhoods are far from the metro), bit of a bohemian / hipster vibe but not over the top and relatively safe and clean.

You can easily get by on R$ 500 per month in groceries eating most of your meals in.

A good gym will run R$ 150 or so.

That leaves you over R$ 2k to spend per month on entertainment. It's very easy to blow that kind of money if you're going out regularly. Dinner date is easily R$ 100 if it includes drinks / clubbing after and cab rides look to spend R$ 300+.

Lastly, don't buy any electronics or brand name closing here, unless you want to pay 2-3x the cost of the same item in the US (which is the main reason everyone says Brazil is expensive).

As far as the job: it will be difficult for you to land a legit one. The work visa process takes anywhere from 2-6 months and is costly to your future employer. If you don't speak fluent Portuguese and can't demonstrate your added value, there's no reason for them to hire you vs a local. Best bet on a job search is network like crazy. It's all about connections (QI or quem indica as they say here). Teaching English is actually a good networking tool, as well as Internations, and just making friends.
03-08-2014 11:11 AM
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RE: [DATASHEET] Ringo's São Paulo
(03-08-2014 11:11 AM)champ Wrote:  
(03-08-2014 06:59 AM)Juicy Wrote:  
(03-08-2014 04:16 AM)Capitán Peligroso Wrote:  What is your current cost of living in AU? I was pleasantly surprised at the cost of living in Sao Paulo after hearing about how expensive it was. As an example, you're not going to live high on the hog as an English teacher, but you can certainly make a living there teaching English. Perhaps a better question might be to ask yourself what you want to do with the language skill you acquire in Medellin or Sampa, because Spanish is a lot more transferable than Portuguese. If you want to bang latinas or have an international business, Spanish gives you the language skills to do that in almost any Latin American country but Brazil.

I am just learning languages for fun, if I work I probably wouldn't really want to teach english I would really like to continue working in my field (Information technology).

If I am not working in Sao Paulo I will not want to spend more than $2k a month, just trying to work out if this is doable while studying portuguese and living alone at the same time.

Based on what you've said I would choose Medellin / Spanish of SP / Portuguese.

Medellin is much less expensive, the girls are hotter, and Spanish is a more universal language. Though, I think this last point is not that big of a deal as Brazil is as large and culturally diverse as the rest of LatAm combined and once you learn one language the other is easy.

Regarding costs, you can get by relatively comfortably in SP on $2k now that the exchange rate is nearly 2.5:1. At 1.7:1 where it was 2 years ago it would be much tighter.

With a R$ 5k budget:

Look to spend R$ 2k on a studio apartment in a decent area. They can be found for cheaper, but for you it might be hard not doing a long term lease, not being able to prove a local income, and not having someone guarantee your lease. I'd look in the Bela Vista / Consolação area close to the Paulista or Consolação Metro stop. Good nightlife, good logistics (a lot of the better neighborhoods are far from the metro), bit of a bohemian / hipster vibe but not over the top and relatively safe and clean.

You can easily get by on R$ 500 per month in groceries eating most of your meals in.

A good gym will run R$ 150 or so.

That leaves you over R$ 2k to spend per month on entertainment. It's very easy to blow that kind of money if you're going out regularly. Dinner date is easily R$ 100 if it includes drinks / clubbing after and cab rides look to spend R$ 300+.

Lastly, don't buy any electronics or brand name closing here, unless you want to pay 2-3x the cost of the same item in the US (which is the main reason everyone says Brazil is expensive).

As far as the job: it will be difficult for you to land a legit one. The work visa process takes anywhere from 2-6 months and is costly to your future employer. If you don't speak fluent Portuguese and can't demonstrate your added value, there's no reason for them to hire you vs a local. Best bet on a job search is network like crazy. It's all about connections (QI or quem indica as they say here). Teaching English is actually a good networking tool, as well as Internations, and just making friends.

I cannot wait to move over in several months. Is Vila Maria worth considering to live?
03-08-2014 11:35 AM
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(03-08-2014 11:35 AM)DQA Wrote:  I cannot wait to move over in several months. Is Vila Maria worth considering to live?

Don't know anything about Vila Maria. Had to google it just to see where it was located.

Based on location only I'd say no. It's not one of better neighborhoods, don't think there's any nightlife (other than local botecos with fat chicks), and it's far from the metro.

My general advice when people ask about SP is if you can't afford to live in a decent neighborhood it's a pretty awful place. Terrible traffic, ugly (city and girls), dangerous, and smelly.
03-08-2014 12:51 PM
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(03-08-2014 12:51 PM)champ Wrote:  
(03-08-2014 11:35 AM)DQA Wrote:  I cannot wait to move over in several months. Is Vila Maria worth considering to live?

Don't know anything about Vila Maria. Had to google it just to see where it was located.

Sorry, I meant to say Vila Mariana.
03-08-2014 12:57 PM
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^^^That's a totally different place. Being that close to Parque Ibirapuera and Avenida Paulista is great for day game, and the metro is right there with access to a couple of different lines. Don't know the neighborhood though, but I suspect it's pretty good, given the other areas I know around there.

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03-08-2014 01:17 PM
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Of course, the above information and 3 reais will get you on the metro...

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03-08-2014 01:20 PM
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(03-08-2014 12:57 PM)DQA Wrote:  
(03-08-2014 12:51 PM)champ Wrote:  
(03-08-2014 11:35 AM)DQA Wrote:  I cannot wait to move over in several months. Is Vila Maria worth considering to live?

Don't know anything about Vila Maria. Had to google it just to see where it was located.

Sorry, I meant to say Vila Mariana.

Ok. Completely different world. I don't know Vila Mariana that well. I only went there once for a dentist appointment, but it's an upper middle class, mostly residential neighborhood.

Like CP said you'll have good logistics, and there should be some good local restaurants and neighborhood bars. Should be fun.
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