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RE: DC woman upset that no man saved her
(04-03-2012 06:38 PM)assman Wrote:  Roosh may very well be correct with his guess. But does it justify their behavior? If you happen not to give the head shake they deem appropriate, you're fair game? Why should law abiding citizens (feminists cunts or not), be at the mercy of hooligans?

Who is the defending their behavior?

All anyone has said is, "I'm not going to risk prison or getting shot because some guys are hassling a woman."

If she were getting gang raped, I'd understand the "brother's keeper" argument.

Some guys were fucking hassling her, no one touched her, and LOL at a Bic lighter burning her alive.

She's being a fucking drama queen.

Yeah it's shitty what happened to her, but it's far from the end of the world.
04-03-2012 08:32 PM
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RE: DC woman upset that no man saved her
(04-03-2012 08:32 PM)Roosh Wrote:  It doesn't justify the thugs' behavior.

But when you're giving a reaction to thugs who outnumber you 6 to 1, what type of response do you think you're going to get?

If you don't have situational advantage, either shut up or gain the advantage. It's as simple as that.

If I'm in a bar and three dudes are beefing with me, it doesn't matter if their behavior is "justified" or not when they stomp my skull because I challenged them without proper backup. It comes down to basic common sense.

(04-03-2012 08:32 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  
(04-03-2012 06:38 PM)assman Wrote:  Roosh may very well be correct with his guess. But does it justify their behavior? If you happen not to give the head shake they deem appropriate, you're fair game? Why should law abiding citizens (feminists cunts or not), be at the mercy of hooligans?

Who is the defending their behavior?

All anyone has said is, "I'm not going to risk prison or getting shot because some guys are hassling a woman."

If she were getting gang raped, I'd understand the "brother's keeper" argument.

Some guys were fucking hassling her, no one touched her, and LOL at a Bic lighter burning her alive.

She's being a fucking drama queen.

Yeah it's shitty what happened to her, but it's far from the end of the world.

Roosh, Mike, yeah, I hear you, and I'm not suggesting that anyone should have intervened or that she was smart to challenge them. I just find it sad that so many people (men and women) are willing to accept this helplessness, each of them hoping that criminals don't choose them. Hope is a shitty strategy. Having Smith & Wesson around to back you up is a better one.
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04-03-2012 08:43 PM
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RE: DC woman upset that no man saved her
(04-03-2012 08:43 PM)assman Wrote:  
(04-03-2012 08:32 PM)Roosh Wrote:  It doesn't justify the thugs' behavior.

But when you're giving a reaction to thugs who outnumber you 6 to 1, what type of response do you think you're going to get?

If you don't have situational advantage, either shut up or gain the advantage. It's as simple as that.

If I'm in a bar and three dudes are beefing with me, it doesn't matter if their behavior is "justified" or not when they stomp my skull because I challenged them without proper backup. It comes down to basic common sense.

(04-03-2012 08:32 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  
(04-03-2012 06:38 PM)assman Wrote:  Roosh may very well be correct with his guess. But does it justify their behavior? If you happen not to give the head shake they deem appropriate, you're fair game? Why should law abiding citizens (feminists cunts or not), be at the mercy of hooligans?

Who is the defending their behavior?

All anyone has said is, "I'm not going to risk prison or getting shot because some guys are hassling a woman."

If she were getting gang raped, I'd understand the "brother's keeper" argument.

Some guys were fucking hassling her, no one touched her, and LOL at a Bic lighter burning her alive.

She's being a fucking drama queen.

Yeah it's shitty what happened to her, but it's far from the end of the world.

Roosh, Mike, yeah, I hear you, and I'm not suggesting that anyone should have intervened or that she was smart to challenge them. I just find it sad that so many people (men and women) are willing to accept this helplessness, each of them hoping that criminals don't choose them. Hope is a shitty strategy. Having Smith & Wesson around to back you up is a better one.

I don’t see how having a piece would help in this situation. This is not some dark alley way or parking lot late a night. This is a moving train, multiple assailants, close quarters, crowed rush hour train. This is not a movie, with adrenaline pumping, lack of training(i.e. jerking the trigger) and tunnel vision she’s not gonna hit none of them and that’s assuming she doesn’t have an accidental discharge pulling that thing out of her fake coach bag. To put this in perspective, NYC cops hit assailants less than 38% of the time when they shoot at somebody at less than 3 yards!!!! less than 3 yards!!! We are talking about a People who carry a gun for a living and get training the average citizen just doesn't still miss when somebody is standing practically right in front of them. Therefore, the chances of a scared shitless SWPL actually hitting her intended target? practically zero. http://www.pointshooting.com/1asop9.htm

Quote:My instinct on this one is she gave them attitude or showed annoyance at being asked for money. I encountered kids like this all the time... a simple head shake is all it takes for them to go on.


These touts are all over the NYC as well. They do clip boards fund raising, sell candy for their “football team”, sell their shitty rap cd’s in Times Square, do magic shows, etc. Every year they come up with a new hustle. They are the 2012 reincarnation of the 1990’s Squeegee man. I encounter them at least 5 times during my commute so if I went around AMOG them, I would have very long days. Hopefully, next time this young lady is going to learn to STFU and keep it moving. You don’t always get to have the last word. This is probably the first time any man has cursed her out and is still fucking with her head.
04-06-2012 11:11 AM
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(04-06-2012 11:11 AM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  I don’t see how having a piece would help in this situation. This is not some dark alley way or parking lot late a night. This is a moving train, multiple assailants, close quarters, crowed rush hour train. This is not a movie, with adrenaline pumping, lack of training(i.e. jerking the trigger) and tunnel vision she’s not gonna hit none of them and that’s assuming she doesn’t have an accidental discharge pulling that thing out of her fake coach bag. To put this in perspective, NYC cops hit assailants less than 38% of the time when they shoot at somebody at less than 3 yards!!!! less than 3 yards!!! We are talking about a People who carry a gun for a living and get training the average citizen just doesn't still miss when somebody is standing practically right in front of them. Therefore, the chances of a scared shitless SWPL actually hitting her intended target? practically zero. http://www.pointshooting.com/1asop9.htm
1. I'm not suggesting that she shoot them. In fact, their actions up to that point did not constitute an immediate threat of death or serious bodily injury.
2. Being armed would come in handy if these thugs escalated. E.g., if while the one teen was flicking the lighter, another teen was about to throw gasoline on her (as happened a month ago to some kid in Kansas City), then she would be justified in shooting them.
3. Everyone I know who conceal carries trains more with firearms than many police officers do, as many (most?) cops only hit the range when they have to re-qualify with their weapon.
4. Bernhard Goetz fired 5 shots on a NYC subway car that had 20-25 people in it, including Goetz and the 4 assailants. Four of those shots hit the intended targets and the fifth shot bounced off the interior of the car, striking no one. None of the other passengers was hit. And Goetz likely had very little training, if any, given that this was NYC and his possession of the weapon was unlawful.
5. Lawful concealed carry holders use their firearms far more often to ward off assailants than they do to actually shoot at their attacker. If she were cornered, simply pulling out the firearm likely would have been enough to send the attackers running.
6. Holsters - most negligent discharges by concealed carry holders occur because the person did not use a holster. No matter where one carries, be it purse (not recommended), pocket, hip, inside waistband, etc., one should always use a holster that covers the trigger guard.
7. Deterrence - as the police noted to this woman, teen thugs targeted DC and Maryland rather than VA because they know that the odds of VA passengers carrying concealed is much greater.
(This post was last modified: 04-06-2012 02:19 PM by assman.)
04-06-2012 02:17 PM
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RE: DC woman upset that no man saved her
2-month old thread, but had to chime in ...

Do we really want 20-something year old women carrying around concealed weapons?
06-10-2012 06:21 PM
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