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(05-30-2013 11:34 AM)Travelsick Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 11:07 AM)DVY Wrote:  My facial hair has been growing at ridiculous rates.... (ala Kosko's experience).

As has your risk for an adverse cardiovascular event.


Don't enjoy to be the doomsayer but 3 eggs a day? Geesus.

Stop recycling these myths.

The Man @MIKECF just pointed out his blood work is fine:

Quote:My blood work (hdl cholesterol, triglycerides, etc.) is top 5% in terms of health.

You can find many accounts of males whom consume a dozen per day with no issues. Eggs lower the bad cholesterol and raise the good levels. Not all cholesterol is equal, nor bad.

Do the research before you toss bricks in like this. Eggs are probably the single best food a man can eat.

@DVY I thought I was tripping with the facial hair but its extremely more full and growing like crazy. I used to always grow patchy stuff but it has evened up really good now and I have about 1 month of growth that usually took me 3 months to grow.
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RE: Eggs
Heh

You ever watch a man die before your eyes of a heart attack?

It happens to me with surprising regularity, once a year, on the OR table in front of me. Needless to say it's a total bummer having to sell that one to the relatives.

I'm not gonna get into the whole LDL/HDL "cholesterol" thing here. Even considering the very latest research, it's all pretty much theory vs theory.

My point is 30 eggs a week is a lot of fat and protein, assuming you're eating other stuff as well. If you're burning that up fine, but the average man out there, isn't.

Lastly, time and time again controlled studies show that individual blood fat values vary greatly between people even when they're on the exact same controlled diet.

I'm going to go out on a limb here saying this isn't for everyone. If you have yourself checked and it's all dandy, great.
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The problem isn't the fat intake. My family members and some friends have given me hate when they found out I have been eating 5 eggs in the mornings. 'Too much cholesterol, eat only the whites, avoid the yolk, it's bad for your heart' they say.

Yes, many people suffer from heart diseases, high cholesterol, high blood pressure in North America. But is that because of the high fat intake due to fast foods? Partly.

The biggest reason people are suffering from these things is NOT high fat intake.. It is lack of moderate-intense exercise, most days of the week. A person who is engaging in moderate-extreme amounts of exercise on a daily basis will not suffer from these things.

That is because exercise is the #1 prevention method of all cause mortality.

Diets high in cholesterol (good cholesterol, meaning eggs) on their own for someone who is over 35 and a sedentary couch potato is an awaiting heart attack.

Diets high in good cholesterol for someone who is an active individual is very beneficial. Causes an increase in HDL and an increase in LDL. Hence the reason why an above poster eats so many eggs weekly and has cholesterol levels in the top 5% of healthiness.
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The average person spend less than 2 hrs week exercising. Not an apples to apples analogy.

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Scrambled eggs cooked in oil is very fatty, I have to stop eating that shit
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Here you go, egg haters. This is from less than 3 weeks ago:


Now let's see your lab work.


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12 eggs a day here. No problems. Great results. Superfood.
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RE: Eggs
(05-30-2013 11:34 AM)Travelsick Wrote:  
(05-30-2013 11:07 AM)DVY Wrote:  My facial hair has been growing at ridiculous rates.... (ala Kosko's experience).

As has your risk for an adverse cardiovascular event.


Don't enjoy to be the doomsayer but 3 eggs a day? Geesus.

Haha, I've been eating 12 a day, everyday, for 3 years now, no problems either.
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Eat garlic. Eggs promote bad vascular health by promoting the growth of bacteria that cause inflammation. Garlic kills bacteria.
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(06-01-2013 09:55 PM)JimNortonFan Wrote:  Eggs promote bad vascular health by promoting the growth of bacteria that cause inflammation.

I never heard this before, do you have a link where I could read about it?

I do eat garlic though, so I'm good.
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(05-30-2013 04:38 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  Here you go, egg haters. This is from less than 3 weeks ago:


Now let's see your lab work.

Holy fuck, nice ratio. The triglycerides/HDL ratio is actually the most predictive of heart disease. Under 2.0 is good, under 1 is amazing. MikeCF's is under 1.

When I got mine checked, it was just under 2, and my cholesterol was a shade over 200. I did and continue to eat lots of eggs when I make breakfast at home, typically 6-10 in a sitting.

The overall cholesterol level is far less meaningful.
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Quote: The results of the new studies, though, do not directly prove that reducing TMAO protects against heart disease. That would require large studies following people who lowered their TMAO levels, which should be possible with a vegetarian or high-fiber diet.

Dr. Hazen said that people who are worried about heart attacks may want to consider reducing lecithin and choline in their diet, which would require eating less of foods high in fat and cholesterol.
Hmm, it seems to me they can't say that doing what they're telling us to do will actually result in increased protection from heart attacks but they want us to stop eating like men and start eating like sickly, frail vegetarians anyway. It is good to be informed of new findings, but I don't think I'll stop eating eggs just yet.
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RE: Eggs
For those of you getting bored of the same old eggs try making a Kimchee omelette.

Fry up a bit of Kimchee, zucchini and garlic in coconut oil. Mix up some eggs and do your standard omelet procedure. Put some siracha on top to finish.

Made one this morning and it was oddly sweet, but awesome
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(06-02-2013 06:16 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  For those of you getting bored of the same old eggs try making a Kimchee omelette.

Fry up a bit of Kimchee, zucchini and garlic in coconut oil. Mix up some eggs and do your standard omelet procedure. Put some siracha on top to finish.

Made one this morning and it was oddly sweet, but awesome

I tried that, it's good, but I prefer it with the kimchi added at the end. The cool, crisp sharp bite of kimchi stands up much better when it's not cooked. When you cook it, you just get a mild flavoring diluted across the eggs. (That said, maybe I wasn't using enough kimchi - I had four ounces or so to 7 eggs.)

I'm discovering some foods taste a lot better just kept cold and added to a hot dish. Eggs are no exception. The flavors are preserved, and much easier to distinguish when you eat it. Another example would be putting feta on eggs - put it on in the pan, and the taste gets diluted by the eggs. Put it on the eggs once it's on your plate, and you can feel the cool sharpness of the cheese against the warm filling taste of the eggs.

You just have to make sure the food is hot, and that the topping won't warm much by the time you eat it.
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hmmmm

I'll test that out tomorrow, sounds interesting.

What else do you do with eggs? I've hardly eaten them these past few months because I got sick of boring old scrambled eggs.
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3 * 7 = 21 eggs a week for me.

I'm going to read this thread when I'm home tonight.

Fit as fuck though.

Edit: Haha, just see someone saying he eats 12 * 7 = 84 eggs a week.
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Eggs with Tuna and garlic is my peasant gym staple meal. It's simple, tastes good and has a ton of protein in it. My one buddy makes scrambled eggs with curry, also blending them in sauces helps to. Carbonara is damn good and the sauce will take 3-4 eggs.

What I do is just eat them the same way until I get sick of it and the. Switch it up. Right now I like poaching them while a few weeks ago it was hard boiled.
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Huevos mexicanos. Saute some vegetables, then add eggs, scramble.

Huevos rancheros. The runny egg yolks run into the beans and it's all over the tortillas. Spicy ranchero sauce to top it off.

Over easy, dip toast into the yolks.

Cook a pack of bacon, cook eggs in the grease, eat it all on toast.

Milkshake. Milk, ice cream, raw eggs.
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Since we're talking recipes...

Italian/Pasta Eggs:

I put the skillet to medium heat.

Throw on some coconut oil. (You can use olive oil, too. I just prefer coconut oil because it has a higher smoke point.)

Add some garlic gloves and onion. Grill until they start to caramelize.

Throw on 4-6 eggs.

I like my eggs over-easy soft or sunny-side up hard.

To get good sunny side up eggs, you need to "flick" the egg white that builds up on the center of the egg around the yolk towards the outside of the egg. That, or you can take a fork and poke some holes near the yolk for the eggs to fall into

Throw sauted onions and garlic onto plate.

Throw eggs on top and poke the yolk, so the eggs soak into the onions and garlic.

Then add a tablespoon or two of tomato paste on the side.

You can throw in some basil, too, and even add a side of Buffalo mozzarella‎.
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(06-02-2013 06:08 PM)Teutatis Wrote:  
Quote: The results of the new studies, though, do not directly prove that reducing TMAO protects against heart disease. That would require large studies following people who lowered their TMAO levels, which should be possible with a vegetarian or high-fiber diet.

Dr. Hazen said that people who are worried about heart attacks may want to consider reducing lecithin and choline in their diet, which would require eating less of foods high in fat and cholesterol.
Hmm, it seems to me they can't say that doing what they're telling us to do will actually result in increased protection from heart attacks but they want us to stop eating like men and start eating like sickly, frail vegetarians anyway. It is good to be informed of new findings, but I don't think I'll stop eating eggs just yet.

Correct. Notice how they are always telling us to eliminate something rather than add in something to mitigate or eliminate the purported negative effects of meat and eggs?

They always try getting us to eat like less of a man.

It's to lower our testosterone levels.
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RE: Eggs
My favorite egg recipe is something like an egg hash.
Heat up a heavy skillet. Fry/brown two cups of shredded onions, broccoli, mushrooms, and bacon in a tablespoon of butter. Crack five to seven eggs over everything. Cover momentarily, then scramble.
I usually cook this and leave about half left over for breakfast.

When I was hard up for cash I used to eat something like a dozen eggs a day, they are cheap and very keto friendly.
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^ Nice.

I like the consistency of hash but keep my carbs in the 100-200 grams/day range so that doesn't leave much room for potatoes.

Cauliflower Curry "Hash"

Steam cauliflower until soft (5-10 minutes).
Spring on some curry powder and mash up with a fork.
Throw 4-6 eggs on top.
Crack the yolks and mix up.

That's a cancer-fighting, protein-loaded meal right there.
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I'm a pretty lazy bastard, I probably eat 2 eggs a day, I just fry them up and eat them with some pepper.

I'm trying to put on weight so I might up that to 4 a day on top of my regular diet
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A few more:

I haven't made this in a while, and when I did it was pretty basic.

Pizza Eggs - Put some oil in the pan (butter, olive oil or coconut oil) on low to medium heat. Scramble eggs in a bowl, and add some milk or cream to make it fluffier once cooked. Then pour the eggs into the pan and let it rest a little. As it firms up from the heat, put some tomato sauce and then cheese on one half of it. Probably better to make with a pan that has a top, so you can seal it and the pan then acts like a mini oven. Then fold over the empty half onto the pizza-half and serve.

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You can probably jazz it up with fresh basil, tomato sauce, hot pepper, fresh or sautéed onions, etc. I never got to that point. Main downside is that you need a big pan to do a respectable amount of eggs, because it calls for a lot of pan surface area for each egg.

Eggs & Fajitas - If you're lucky enough to live near a good Mexican market, you can get pre-marinated beef or chicken fajitas with cut up vegetables for cheap. Just cook that with a little butter or coconut oil, or even lard or tallow if you have, and then throw in some scrambled eggs.

Fresh Salsa & Guacamole With Scrambled Eggs - you just make scrambled eggs and eat it with liberal amounts of fresh cold salsa, and guacamole if you really want to ball out. The key thing here is the salsa - I use Jack's Cantina Salsa, and the stuff is so good that you can drink it. I'm sure there are other great brands, the key here is to get a refrigerated fresh salsa. The stuff that sits on shelves in glass or even cans is no comparison. Again, I like putting cold condiments on hot eggs, so add the salsa and guacamole with each bite, instead of ladling it all on at once and having it get soggy and spineless.

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These are also a great for adding a smoky spicy flavor to anything:

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Does anyone else get annoyed by most recipes? They read like it's for some insecure fatass that never cooks, but is suddenly throwing a dinner party and is desperate to impress their friends. As if Americans are too lazy to cook except when it's a chance to status-whore.

I like good hearty simple meals, and base them around core ingredients. Eggs, rice, salmon, shrimp, butter, cheese, beef, potatoes, with generous amounts of spices and herbs.
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