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My cumming while I was sleeping scared the hell outta me. I don't even want to describe what I saw when I was sleeping.all I can say is I'm gonna fall back off porn . It's getting boring to me anyway.



Red beard you are the man. Four months in,all I can do is root you on man.

10 more days and I'll be at three months,still can't believe I went that long without giving up.
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I'm currently onto my 14th day of no-fap. From day 9 I noticed that the amount of attention I was getting from women on the street sky-rocketed, not only in terms of quantity, but also in terms of quality of girl. Some of the girls that eye-fucked me I subsequently cold-approached and they were extremely receptive, including one that had a boyfriend but who was seriously thinking about meeting up with me "for a coffee" all the same.

Have any of you other no-fappers experienced anything similar?
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(02-20-2017 02:38 PM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  I'm currently onto my 14th day of no-fap. From day 9 I noticed that the amount of attention I was getting from women on the street sky-rocketed, not only in terms of quantity, but also in terms of quality of girl. Some of the girls that eye-fucked me I subsequently cold-approached and they were extremely receptive, including one that had a boyfriend but who was seriously thinking about meeting up with me "for a coffee" all the same.

Have any of you other no-fappers experienced anything similar?


YES, I have.

Exactly the same as you describe.
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(02-20-2017 03:17 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  
(02-20-2017 02:38 PM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  I'm currently onto my 14th day of no-fap. From day 9 I noticed that the amount of attention I was getting from women on the street sky-rocketed, not only in terms of quantity, but also in terms of quality of girl. Some of the girls that eye-fucked me I subsequently cold-approached and they were extremely receptive, including one that had a boyfriend but who was seriously thinking about meeting up with me "for a coffee" all the same.

Have any of you other no-fappers experienced anything similar?


YES, I have.

Exactly the same as you describe.

What about other body language cues, such as girls starting to play with their hair after they make eye-contact with you, or licking their lips - have you also had this?

And have you also found it easier to find DTF women as a result of this?

I'm really surprised that this phenomenon hasn't been discussed more on this forum, since the results of going no-fap for me with getting IOIs from women are like night and day and I have read many similar reports from guys on the internet, especially testimonials from guys on YouTube.
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(02-20-2017 02:27 PM)ShotgunUppercuts Wrote:  My cumming while I was sleeping scared the hell outta me. I don't even want to describe what I saw when I was sleeping.all I can say is I'm gonna fall back off porn . It's getting boring to me anyway.

It sounds like you saw a Succubus in your wet dream.


[Image: 1132466.jpg]


Used to be a very common belief among men before the 20th century.
More info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succubus


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(02-20-2017 03:23 PM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  What about other body language cues, such as girls starting to play with their hair after they make eye-contact with you, or licking their lips - have you also had this?

And have you also found it easier to find DTF women as a result of this?


Yes to everything you said.
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I don't think it was a succubus.it was like I was watching a porn in my dream .it was too real.
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(02-20-2017 05:44 PM)ShotgunUppercuts Wrote:  I don't think it was a succubus.it was like I was watching a porn in my dream .it was too real.

A while ago I read "Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers." There was an interesting section about neurons, the brain, and sleep (Chapters 10 & 11) that gave me a breakthrough.

I'm going to butcher this but the gist is that neurons are interconnected in general areas. "Girls" will contain neurons related to every girl you've ever known. "Colors" will fire neurons related to every color you've ever seen. When you fire one neuron, the related ones will fire. If you think of one girl, you'll slowly fire all the neurons around the "girls" section. This is why it's easy to recall your favorite impressionist painter when you think of painters with similar style. This is also why you'll remember what your grandma's house will look like when you smell her cookies. They're all interconnected.

Later the author describes sleep and the purpose of dreaming. There's lots of speculation as to WHY we dream, but for various reasons sleep and dreaming are meant to construct, strengthen, and rebuild neurons and synapses. If there's neurons that aren't being used often, your brain will fire these up while you sleep to keep them strong. Neurons act in a "use it or lose it" fashion, so you have to keep thinking of something to keep it fresh.

Personally...I have recurring dreams about my ex girlfriend. It's been two years since we broke up so their frequency has greatly diminished, but there was a while that it was happening a few times a month. My theory is since we were so pair bonded, my brain contains tons of neurons that lead to my ex girlfriend. Smells, locations, people, activities. When a neuron in that area fires, the synapses around it follow until it gets to the area for my ex. My brain says "Why aren't these firing? What's up with all these f***ing dormant neurons? Better start firing em up!" The result? Dreams about my ex girlfriend.

Replace my ex girlfriend with your favorite pornography, and I think we have an explanation.

If this doesn't make sense I highly recommend the book, it's explained in much more detail.
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(02-20-2017 02:27 PM)ShotgunUppercuts Wrote:  My cumming while I was sleeping scared the hell outta me. I don't even want to describe what I saw when I was sleeping.all I can say is I'm gonna fall back off porn . It's getting boring to me anyway.



Red beard you are the man. Four months in,all I can do is root you on man.

10 more days and I'll be at three months,still can't believe I went that long without giving up.

Thanks for the kind words, but it was Law Dogger who inspired me:

http://www.returnofkings.com/30131/my-on...sturbating
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I'm extremely excited to see this thread reach 107 pages. NoFap and NoPorn have been a "crusade" of mine for at least four years. It's important for men and even more crucial for players and womanizers like us who need high sexual performance and health.

To celebrate the growth of the NoFap/NoPorn thread, Mercenary and I have decided to put together an RVF NoFap/NoPorn FAQ to post on Kings Wiki. After 107 pages, questions start to repeat themselves.

We could easily outsource the answers to other pages, but the mainstream NoFap pages (/r/nofap, YBOP, etc) are very blue pill. Their demographics are incels and older married guys. We figure there needs to be a red pill NoFap guide.

Additionally there are multiple answers to each question. NoFap truly is a choose your own adventure. Mercenary and I come from different backgrounds and disagree enough to make a comprehensive guide, showing every option, so we hope this helps guys out.

To start, here's the questions we're going to answer. If there's anything else you think should be added, please let us know and we will address it.

Why is porn bad for you? What about softcore porn, IG thirst accounts, etc?
Why is fapping (masturbation) bad for you? Edging? Frequency of masturbation?
What is a reboot and how long should I do it?
When does my streak reset?
Should I refrain from ejaculation even when I am with a girl? How should sex fit into my reboot?

Will I get magical superpowers?
Will I beat ED?
Will I get wet dreams?
Will I get blue balls?

How do I deal with premature ejaculation after NoFap?

Why do I get ups and downs during the various weeks on nofap?
What is flatline?
What is the chaser effect?

What are some things I can do to monitor my progress apart from counting the days?
What methods can I use so I do not masturbate?
How to block porn on your computer/phone?
What should I do if I keep relapsing?
How does health/lifestyle/diet influence nofap?
What are common porn/fap triggers and how do I avoid them?
What are some hobbies and activities to take you away from porn (lifting, cardio, reading, writing, chasing women)?
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Posting back here for a reality check.

I've slipped hard.

Getting laid a bunch lately has helped, somewhat, but I still go the urge to jack it to porn.

Back on the wagon as I'm pretty sure that I'll be getting laid more consistently now and it has been extremely difficult from about a month long dry spell. I also think that it's embarrassing to admit how much I still struggle with this in my 30s. It really fucks up motivation. It fucks up mindset. It fucks up a lot.

Hell, even getting too much sex can wither you up and make you not want to do anything. It's hard to find a balance in life. Just because you can, doesn't mean that you should.

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Damn it! Same thing here. I had some crazy sex two days ago and now I crave orgasming...Just posting here for accountability. I really believe in the power of NoFap, and even more in the power of NoPorn...but this is hard as hell! Crazy respect for those guys with long periods of abstinence.
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(02-21-2017 04:34 PM)ExploringReality Wrote:  Damn it! Same thing here. I had some crazy sex two days ago and now I crave orgasming...Just posting here for accountability. I really believe in the power of NoFap, and even more in the power of NoPorn...but this is hard as hell! Crazy respect for those guys with long periods of abstinence.

What do you mean by crazy ?

Crazy good ?
Crazy weird ?

How was it different than normaly ?
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(02-21-2017 04:42 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  
(02-21-2017 04:34 PM)ExploringReality Wrote:  Damn it! Same thing here. I had some crazy sex two days ago and now I crave orgasming...Just posting here for accountability. I really believe in the power of NoFap, and even more in the power of NoPorn...but this is hard as hell! Crazy respect for those guys with long periods of abstinence.

What do you mean by crazy ?

Crazy good ?
Crazy weird ?

How was it different than normaly ?
This girl is by far the most submissive girl I-ve had sex with (not that it is that much, considering I'm at 4 notches, but sill), which I'm loving. Also, she's been teasing me through text, which only makes me horny through the day. NoFap is being really difficult but I really feel the testosterone.
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(02-21-2017 05:46 PM)ExploringReality Wrote:  This girl is by far the most submissive girl I-ve had sex with (not that it is that much, considering I'm at 4 notches, but sill), which I'm loving. Also, she's been teasing me through text, which only makes me horny through the day. NoFap is being really difficult but I really feel the testosterone.

Your words and behaviour because you are on NoFap might be just the thing that is making her much more submissive to you.
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Off the thread topic but related to previous posts:

A good way to test for submissiveness is to early on, when appropriate, lightly push on the limits of deep tissue massage and their reaction.

I also like to grab the base of their hair while making out with them and seeing how they react. Some girls have next to no reaction. The submissive ones make good noises and start admitting early on how they like that bit of pain.

But keep in mind that you best already have decent logistics and game to pull it off. Some girls react very badly to this test in public. Others... let's just say you better have your crib ready.

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Speaking of cribs,I'll be in my own apartment in the end of the year. Maybe that'll help me with game since I'll have my own place.red beard I'm going to check out that book.
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Own crib will help get chicks but will be a new challenge for NoFap. I implore you to use this as a time to extend your streak.

There's something to "i've never jerked off in this apartment" that keeps us motivated.

On the flip side, if we always jack off in one place, our mind will be triggered by being in that area.
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I keep having dreams about banging! You know that moment right when you're on the verge of waking up but still half asleep and in that dream state, and you realize that dreaming about fucking 2 tens was a dream?

Yeah, I hate that.
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(02-23-2017 02:13 PM)Rhyme or Reason Wrote:  I keep having dreams about banging! You know that moment right when you're on the verge of waking up but still half asleep and in that dream state, and you realize that dreaming about fucking 2 tens was a dream?

Yeah, I hate that.

I feel you man, but honestly that is a clear sign that your mind is actually healing from porn induced brain damage when this happens.

Like it or not, it's a good thing.
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Talk about dream about banging, I had a dream about fucking a girl last night by the opened window,
I can see the people with the traffic below, it felt very real that I still remember it vividly.

That was fun!

It's all about dopamine and adrenaline,
everything in life is about drugs.
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Same here, today I was free so I overslept and found myself rolling around horny as hell half-dreaming about banging. The urges stronger than before, but I'm "learning" to cope with them. I actually like the feeling, makes me want to do stuff.
I guess I'm at least 1 week in? I'm not sure, I've not been counting the days as I think that would fix my mind too much on this, but one thing is sure...women are getting more and more sexy each day. They are just so cute.
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Guess I'm still flatlining . Haven't had a solid soldier in weeks.
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I've tried this before and now I'm on about 2 weeks.

I think the key here is you need to actually go out and get laid. If you don't jerk off and watch porn and don't get laid you "flatline" and your dick stops doing what it's suppose to do which is fucking terrifying.
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(02-24-2017 01:25 AM)Felix88 Wrote:  Talk about dream about banging, I had a dream about fucking a girl last night by the opened window,
I can see the people with the traffic below, it felt very real that I still remember it vividly.

As your brain heals, not only will all your dreams become more vivid and detailed, but you will remember more of them too.


(02-24-2017 09:41 AM)ShotgunUppercuts Wrote:  Guess I'm still flatlining . Haven't had a solid soldier in weeks.

(02-24-2017 12:08 PM)Eugenics Wrote:  I think the key here is you need to actually go out and get laid. If you don't jerk off and watch porn and don't get laid you "flatline" and your dick stops doing what it's suppose to do which is fucking terrifying.

Flatlines can last anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months depending on the level of brain damage from porn. It's probably the absolute worst part of rebooting. But DO NOT "test" your erection with porn, or fantasies, or edging while on a flatline. There is no shortcut in the healing process. As for trying to get laid, I would recommend this but without forcing it too much. Always remember you are in recovery and healing from both an addiction and years of self abuse. If you force things too early, you delay your recovery. One day, when you least expect it, your boner and sex drive will come back with a furious vengeance by simply seeing a girl in real life who gives you nice and long eye contact. By that time a fearless approach should be very easy. Bottom line, flatlines are essential to recovery.

(02-24-2017 08:23 AM)ExploringReality Wrote:  I guess I'm at least 1 week in? I'm not sure, I've not been counting the days as I think that would fix my mind too much on this, but one thing is sure...women are getting more and more sexy each day. They are just so cute.

Porn warps and damages our brains so badly that many simple things in real life don't produce dopamine release of pleasure in our minds. You become like a crazy junkie who always needs more extreme stuff to get off.

When you start getting pleasure from the mere sight and/or presence of a full clothed girl in real life it is also a good sign of recovery. Then you realise that this is the natural way things should be...and that you have been living in an alternate numb universe for years.
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