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(03-30-2016 08:58 PM)redbeard Wrote:  Gents, why do you think NoFap = No Productivity.

Do you depend on sexual stimulus to drive you? Is sex your only motivation?

I ask a) to better understand and b) so you can push through it.

Why doesn't it motivate you to go get laid?

I feel motivated to get laid. Shit I was more on fire doing approaches on nofap then ever before. The issue being excessive amounts of pent up tension as I was and still am at a desk until my time is freed up tomorrow.

Thankfully I'll be starting it again, but some tips to maintain it while in situations where I'm working the entire day would be nice.

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Maybe I should have clarified more. No fap does compel me to go hunt down strange, I don't think there's any questioning that. The productivity I was referencing is work/school related. It's considerably more difficult to focus intensely on projects when I'm not fapping. I can last for a few days, often up to a week, but beyond that my distraction levels rise significantly. It's even possible to plow through that in times of crisis but I take on an unhealthy repressed mindset that reminds me too much of pre-med days. On strict nofap I'm thinking of vagina 24/7 and project at hand gets ignored. I am still early 20's, I do lift heavy weights and take cold showers daily so this might be more of a hormonal issue for me.

To answer your question. Yes, I depend on sexual stimulus to drive me, which is why I feel guilty when I fap and is why I try to only use my mind to fap now. I feel like I lose a carnal energy after I fap and my presence weakens. I like the practice of no fapping, but I haven't found a way to use it long-term (unless I have a very consistent FB) as my work/school productivity goes downhill fast.
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25 days. Wish me luck on this next round.

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Day one again. I relapsed hard. Being far away from my girls is the main problem in this moment (When I don't have sex I have more risk to view porn)
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Turns out one fap once in a while isn't game over. Zero problems with the blonde grinding on me to alt-rock. This post might belong in the drunk lounge.

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OK - a few things regarding paying attention.

I am sitting at day 86 right now, I've been doing this for a while, and I know that after two weeks of no orgasm I start to feel "the itch" like you guys say. I'm still horny as fuck constantly, but two weeks is where it starts toppling over into concentration. I've been having sex regularly so I don't have to worry about this too much.

There is nothing wrong with thinking about pussy constantly. Society will have you believe otherwise, but as a high-testosterone, high-sex drive male, it's natural to think about pussy constantly. We as a forum have higher available sexual energy than average males.

That high sexual energy is GOOD, IF you are able to channel it. This is one of the reasons why meditation is so recommended. If you can learn to control your thoughts, you can better take that sexual energy and direct it toward your work.

This is a good opportunity to utilize self-talk. Look at yourself in the mirror and say "I am horny. This is male energy that I will use to get work done. I do not want to jerk off. I am a hunter." Self-talk is amazing for NoFap.

I also like to engage in some shaking therapy. I started doing this from this Elliott Hulse video (starts at 3:00). MikeCF wrote that "emotions have weight," so I imagine all the pent up sexual energy as bugs on my body that I have to shake off.

Like many of the posters have mentioned, the best way to stop jerking off and watching porn is to DO SOMETHING ELSE, or "DON'T TOUCH YOUR DICK" as Isaac Jordan suggests. Not touching your dick, and instead channeling that energy towards approaching, work, the gym, is beneficial. When I am overflowing with sexual energy I love gym time. I check out all the asses and throw weights around, sweating and yelling, letting all of the excess energy out. I try to beat my body up, to tire it out, so that I can stop being so horny when I go to sleep. But that's just me.

Porn and masturbation are BAD channels for sexual energy, in that they are not beneficial. Think of sexual energy like money. Transferring it to self-improvement, the gym, approaching, is like putting it into a bank and watching it grow. Getting laid is a great investment in sexual energy, because at the end your brain releases all of the happy pair bond chemicals you get from being with beautiful women. On the other hand, watching porn is like buying a $200 bottle of Ciroc at the club and pouring it down the drain. It's kind of fun, but is it worth it?

I increasingly think you have to be getting laid for this challenge to work. I don't think I've ever gone 90 days without cumming, I would explode.

So to recap, the best way to be able to focus when you're horny is to meditate, self-talk, recognize your emotions, and channel energy elsewhere.

If you can't do this? There are a few ways to temporarily fix the horniness.

The best way to beat the urges while doing work is work in a public place. Do your work in the library, or at a coffee shop, where you are in public view of everyone. Turn your phone off and put it in your backpack, or better yet, leave it in your car so there's no chance to look at it. Ditch the laptop and use good ol' textbook and notebook to study. Use Self-Control App to control access to trigger sites.

Removal of the phone is what really worked for me, because my phone was the major trigger. By removing temptation of the phone, I was able to cut off the pathway to PMO and extend my streak. Next time you relapse, recognize what exactly happened. Was it sexy pictures on reddit? Was it...the forum? Analyze yourself, find the problems, and adjust.
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(04-01-2016 07:30 AM)redbeard Wrote:  OK - a few things regarding paying attention.

I am sitting at day 86 right now, I've been doing this for a while, and I know that after two weeks of no orgasm I start to feel "the itch" like you guys say. I'm still horny as fuck constantly, but two weeks is where it starts toppling over into concentration. I've been having sex regularly so I don't have to worry about this too much.

There is nothing wrong with thinking about pussy constantly. Society will have you believe otherwise, but as a high-testosterone, high-sex drive male, it's natural to think about pussy constantly. We as a forum have higher available sexual energy than average males.

That high sexual energy is GOOD, IF you are able to channel it. This is one of the reasons why meditation is so recommended. If you can learn to control your thoughts, you can better take that sexual energy and direct it toward your work.

This is a good opportunity to utilize self-talk. Look at yourself in the mirror and say "I am horny. This is male energy that I will use to get work done. I do not want to jerk off. I am a hunter." Self-talk is amazing for NoFap.

I also like to engage in some shaking therapy. I started doing this from this Elliott Hulse video (starts at 3:00). MikeCF wrote that "emotions have weight," so I imagine all the pent up sexual energy as bugs on my body that I have to shake off.

Like many of the posters have mentioned, the best way to stop jerking off and watching porn is to DO SOMETHING ELSE, or "DON'T TOUCH YOUR DICK" as Isaac Jordan suggests. Not touching your dick, and instead channeling that energy towards approaching, work, the gym, is beneficial. When I am overflowing with sexual energy I love gym time. I check out all the asses and throw weights around, sweating and yelling, letting all of the excess energy out. I try to beat my body up, to tire it out, so that I can stop being so horny when I go to sleep. But that's just me.

Porn and masturbation are BAD channels for sexual energy, in that they are not beneficial. Think of sexual energy like money. Transferring it to self-improvement, the gym, approaching, is like putting it into a bank and watching it grow. Getting laid is a great investment in sexual energy, because at the end your brain releases all of the happy pair bond chemicals you get from being with beautiful women. On the other hand, watching porn is like buying a $200 bottle of Ciroc at the club and pouring it down the drain. It's kind of fun, but is it worth it?

I increasingly think you have to be getting laid for this challenge to work. I don't think I've ever gone 90 days without cumming, I would explode.

So to recap, the best way to be able to focus when you're horny is to meditate, self-talk, recognize your emotions, and channel energy elsewhere.

If you can't do this? There are a few ways to temporarily fix the horniness.

The best way to beat the urges while doing work is work in a public place. Do your work in the library, or at a coffee shop, where you are in public view of everyone. Turn your phone off and put it in your backpack, or better yet, leave it in your car so there's no chance to look at it. Ditch the laptop and use good ol' textbook and notebook to study. Use Self-Control App to control access to trigger sites.

Removal of the phone is what really worked for me, because my phone was the major trigger. By removing temptation of the phone, I was able to cut off the pathway to PMO and extend my streak. Next time you relapse, recognize what exactly happened. Was it sexy pictures on reddit? Was it...the forum? Analyze yourself, find the problems, and adjust.

First off, congrats on making it to day 86!

As for why no fap = no productivity for me, St. Germain pretty much hit the nail on the head. I end up in this state where all I can think about is sex, as if there is this primal fire that needs to be doused. It gets so bad that I can hardly concentrate on anything else.

This is great when I have free time because I can go out and put that energy toward good use, either in the gym or in my approaches. It feels amazing to channel that energy in a healthy way. However, it's not so great when I have work to do and all I can think about is sexual release. It's pure torture.

(Obviously this only applies when I'm not flatlining. During a flatline the feeling is of a different type of misery.)

So yeah, I agree that meditation is one of the keys to success here. Just take 5-10 minutes to close your eyes, focus on your breath, and let the feeling wash over you. It will eventually pass...if you don't fuel the urges. That last part in bold is key because it's so easy to let your mind go to that place where you're mentally fueling this continual erotic feedback loop. Focus on something else, particularly a physical sensation like your breath because it can ground you to the present moment and allows you to detach from your current thoughts until that fire slowly dies down.

As a last resort, particularly in the case where you've got blue balls and are quite literally aching for release, that's when I would advocate for having a quick wank (focusing purely on the sensations, if possible, rather than some sort of porn-like fantasy). Obviously this might be tough while at work, and in that scenario meditation + toughing it out is probably the only option.

Also, to the phone issue...that's something that I struggled with quite a bit as well until I installed an app locker. I think I mentioned this in a post awhile back in here, but there is a great app for android called AppLock. I'm sure there's something similar for iphones. It allows you to lock certain apps and phone functions with a passcode. Simply install it, set a difficult code that you won't remember (write it down and store it someplace safe, yet highly inconvenient to access just in case you need it), and then lock all of the apps/access points that would allow you to get in trouble.

This app, along with K9 for my pc/laptop, has been the equivalent of taking the bullets out of a loaded gun. I can't look at porn even if I wanted to unless I'm willing to go through the effort of disabling everything. You'll still have to develop some measure of self control, which is a good thing, because you'll never be able to completely eliminate sexual triggers. But it can make the process a lot easier, especially in the beginning during those crucial first few months.

I'm also going to give the self-talk thing a shot. It's about the only tactic that I haven't tried at this point, but it seems like it could definitely work. The shaking stuff is good too, and if I'm working at home I have my own version where I'll shadow box for a little bit just to rid myself of some excess physical energy. Difficult to pull that one off when working around others though razz
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Relapsed again. Need to occupy myself in other ways.

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Day 90.

I haven't done a successful 90 day streak since 2014, when I was still with my ex.

This streak was similar - I have consistently had a mini-LTR to bang once or twice a week that helped keep me sane. On top of that I had two ONS and one repeat bang. If you're a young guy doing this...you have to be having sex. After two weeks of no orgasm I start feeling like a mad man.
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Broke my 50 day streak. I'm kind of disappointed in myself, but at least I learned from it.

I don't think there's any benefit to not masturbating. If you're one of those guys who are hooked on porn hardcore and can't get it up with a girl then by all means quit masturbating and porn, but I think for the average guy, there's no need to.

In fact, I read a study somewhere that guys who had ejaculated at least once a day in their 20s were a third less likely to develop prostate cancer.

After 2 weeks of not masturbating, I become extremely antsy, can't concentrate for long durations, bust way too early during sex, etc.

So I'm just gonna quit porn only and masturbate every other week, when the effects of not masturbating really begin to set in.
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Day 7 again. Approaches feel like nothing again. No nervousness no chances of stumbling unlike after I started fapping again. Not to mention more successful.

Let's keep the motivation going and go for the warmth of a real woman to keep me away.

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April 8th - one month in no porn. First times I tried kicking this I failed. Didn't realize how addictive it was until I tried and failed. Just got a strong urge to hit a quick 'new tab' keyboard shortcut and type those first two letters in that bring up the url to my old preferred porn site. I figured I'd post in here to steel my resolve.

Kicking porn has been my priority so I have not being going no fap. We are on the verge of spring and it is time to get serious about hunting. I just got home from travelling for a while and I do not have any pussy on the docket right now. I know no fap will give me extra motivation to lock something down. Going to need to do that if this streak is going to be successful.

Do not really feel like going out tonight and was not planning on it. Writing this changed my mind. Have to embrace the grind. Time for some solo lurking.
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Close calls are the worst for me. I think I might have had a chance to get laid tonight and blew it. Still might happen tomorrow but it's far from a sure thing. Trying to stay strong and make it to at least 90 days. Been getting laid a decent amount but haven't been able to nut with a chick so it's quasi hard mode for now.
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First full 24 hours of nofap since the relapse. Feels good man.

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I have read that circumcision was introduced in order to prevent masturbation. Can someone who has been circumcised and non circumcised as an adult shine some light on this? Are there any circumcised guys who are addicted to masturbation?

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Day 1

From when I woke up this morning 11th April 2016.
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Reached 2 months of NoPorn few days ago. Going strong.
I am not so picky to women now, just because I need less to get horny. But it is not a bad thing, as I still strive for quality and get it when it is available.
So far no any side effects from quitting porn and fapping only once a week when all other options are exhausted. I am striving for pussy more and I am generally more efficient.
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I cracked after like day 25, then got addicted like a meth head...

I'm gonna try again, the level of dopamine that hits me is insane which makes me think if I cracked in long term I wouldn't be able to reach cold turkey ever again...

I'm on day 0 and feel like i need my high...

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(04-11-2016 08:17 PM)Distant Light Wrote:  I cracked after like day 25, then got addicted like a meth head...

I'm gonna try again, the level of dopamine that hits me is insane which makes me think if I cracked in long term I wouldn't be able to reach cold turkey ever again...

25 days is a streak to be proud of, but I'm curious...what made you give in? I recall you saying you would keep watching porn for education purposes.

Quote:I'm on day 0 and feel like i need my high...

Whenever people try to say "oh yeah masturbation is just like sex," I know that they've never gotten deep into the addiction. Having sex does not feel you leaving your need for a high. Having sex makes you feel AMAZING and ready to conquer the world, while jerking off leaves some (myself included) tired, disoriented, and ready to take a nap.
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I'm on team NoFap this week. Too much great sex recently and my dick is all worn out. Needs a week off to recover.
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Around Day 34 so far. Hardcore mode.

Went into a lull from around day 14 to around 30 (mini flatline, I guess?). Last few days however, have definitely had a close call or two. Any kind of significant stimuli (ex: chick in bikinis pics) and that can get things going. When there is no stimuli (which is relatively easy since I'm pretty isolated for the time being), things are pretty easy but even isolated now my mind alone can get the wheels turning at times; in that, I get that nearly uncontrollable urge to get a release.

Previous record was around 56 days but I had regular bangs as some form of release. Hardcore mode (no porn, no jerking, and no sex) is some next level shit gentlemen; it truly is an undiscovered country.
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I know I've spoken against going hardcore mode for long periods of time, but I think I'm going to do it again for 30 days or so (currently on day 3). I've been feeling like ass lately, and I think a month of hardcore might do me some good. At that point I'll reassess the situation and probably bring sex/moderate fapping back into the mix.

I completely agree with you guys in respect to that feeling of needing your fix, hence my desire to "detox" in hardcore mode for a month or so. I had a decent streak going up until a few days ago, but I caved due to feeling a bit depressed and not being able to shake those intense cravings. It wasn't even my libido that was the problem, but rather the desire to experience that surge of dopamine. The addiction is real.
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Day 4 of zero porn and nofap.

Also no plates I am seeing at the moment, I'm doing this hardcore for the time being.

I seem to have flatlined quite early.
Don't feel anything at all in any way....which is really strange cause my sex drive is usually very, very strong.

But from other people's comments here the strong urges come after day 7...so lets see.
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Day 5

Today I have started to notice the first changes.
I feel a tiny bit more on edge like there's energy and tension building slowly in my body....especially in my legs. Makes me think of those boxing films where the trainer prohibits them from sex a week before the fight. Makes total sense now.

While sitting waiting for public transport, I some girls from real far away....but could not see them well. I felt compelled to get up and go closer to inspect if they were bangable or not....usually I don't do that if I'm already sitting and they are so far away. I didn't approach though...lets see if that changes as I continue nofap.

Also, there a few plates I have abroad in other countries who I occasionally write to in order to make sure they are still dtf when I roll into town. Usually I write quite normal stuff, but today I felt compelled to write teasing/trollish/aggressive stuff to them like:

-"You smell. Have some more showers for god's sake"
-"I bet you're missing my enormous cock."
-"Get some brains or do I have to teach you everything ?"
-"I bet your mother still dresses you. Learn some fashion sense for fucks sake."
-"You know...of all the totally selfish bitches I have met, you're my favorite."
-"I can't wait to treat you like a total sex object again."
-"Fuck you !" (with 3 smileys at the end)


I'm getting good replies as well.
This is fun.
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