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(01-04-2016 08:56 AM)Kimochi Wrote:  Haven't masturbated this year Wink) woooot. Keep it strong

Wait until the dreaded, challenging, and merciless Seventh Day of NoFap - that's when your T levels will spike way above regular threshold (according to a research paper, though a participators' sample was modest, at best).
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Came VERY close to relapsing last night. I got into some stuff on youtube that I shouldn't have, and while I wouldn't consider it full blown porn, it definitely wasn't anything that I ought to be looking at. I ended up fapping later on (to my imagination) because the urge to escalate into porn was just too high. I had to take the bullets out of the gun, so to speak.

For those of you who are really struggling with quitting porn, maybe consider just focusing on eliminating porn (which is the real issue for most people), and give yourself permission to rub one out once in awhile. Fapping as a preventative measure can really help to take away the urge to engage in porn use.

I don't think that I would have been able to keep my NoPorn streak alive if I hadn't allowed myself a quick tug. Also, when I just fap to my imagination I don't seem to notice the extreme hangover effect that I usually get when I fap in conjunction with porn. Maybe slightly less energy for a few days, but I don't have that horrible foggy feeling that I usually get after watching porn.
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(01-05-2016 07:49 PM)Zona Wrote:  Came VERY close to relapsing last night. I got into some stuff on youtube that I shouldn't have, and while I wouldn't consider it full blown porn, it definitely wasn't anything that I ought to be looking at. I ended up fapping later on (to my imagination) because the urge to escalate into porn was just too high. I had to take the bullets out of the gun, so to speak.

For those of you who are really struggling with quitting porn, maybe consider just focusing on eliminating porn (which is the real issue for most people), and give yourself permission to rub one out once in awhile. Fapping as a preventative measure can really help to take away the urge to engage in porn use.

I don't think that I would have been able to keep my NoPorn streak alive if I hadn't allowed myself a quick tug. Also, when I just fap to my imagination I don't seem to notice the extreme hangover effect that I usually get when I fap in conjunction with porn. Maybe slightly less energy for a few days, but I don't have that horrible foggy feeling that I usually get after watching porn.

i hear you, buddy. Same here, same here - you just look through non-sex related stuff, then, inadvertently, almost mischievously, things on YouTube and other social media pop up out of nowhere - be it semi-naked girls, sexy girls in music videos, or whatever tickles your pickle, so to speak.

I was so on, I've downloaded some softish erotica stuff, watched it, got to work but restrained myself and stopped. Once I've cooled down, I felt satisfaction I could control my primal urges and my libido hasn't overpowered me. However, I have to admit that taking control over my natural instincts does take away my 'mental energy'.

Our brain structures by themselves - amygdala, brain stem, hippocampus, insular cortex - don't differentiate that well between a real girl in bed and a phantom on your screen, so they 'get ready for action' nonetheless. It is only, dear I say, conscious mind which sees ontological difference and our capacity to negotiate primal urges can be instantiated.

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(01-04-2016 01:26 PM)ksbms Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 08:56 AM)Kimochi Wrote:  Haven't masturbated this year Wink) woooot. Keep it strong

Wait until the dreaded, challenging, and merciless Seventh Day of NoFap - that's when your T levels will spike way above regular threshold (according to a research paper, though a participators' sample was modest, at best).

Once a week passes though, it gets easier for most.

I realize now that lots of my fapping was due to boredom. If I keep myself occupied, its not that hard.
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No fapp is impossible unless your getting laid on the regular.

No porn has a point to it but if you go months without fapping or getting laid your prostate is going to be fucked.
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(01-06-2016 08:47 PM)Stay Wrote:  No fapp is impossible unless your getting laid on the regular.

No porn has a point to it but if you go months without fapping or getting laid your prostate is going to be fucked.

Not a problem.

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I need to bust my nut daily unless im in SEA im going to have a problem.
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(01-06-2016 08:46 PM)goonies Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 01:26 PM)ksbms Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 08:56 AM)Kimochi Wrote:  Haven't masturbated this year Wink) woooot. Keep it strong

Wait until the dreaded, challenging, and merciless Seventh Day of NoFap - that's when your T levels will spike way above regular threshold (according to a research paper, though a participators' sample was modest, at best).

Once a week passes though, it gets easier for most.

I realize now that lots of my fapping was due to boredom. If I keep myself occupied, its not that hard.

True. Porn/fapping is largely a byproduct of not working hard enough in life or at the gym. Redirect that sexual energy into personal capital. I've finally kicked the habit months ago!
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Day 19.

I've found it to be relatively easy to abstain once you pass the first week (most difficult days were day 7,8,9). I am keeping a journal in order to keep track of the benefits and the side effects but also to keep myself accountable. As many of you have already experienced, sleeping issues have been a problem for me as well. One thing that I noticed is that whereas in the first 10 days I was waking up energetic and rested (usually at 7am with no alarm, regardless of when I was going to sleep -eg. I could have slept for 5 hours and being totally fine with it), since day 13 I am experiencing just the opposite. I wake up tired, no morning woods (except on day 15), I am constantly lethargic throughout the day, I sleep longer but I do not rest, I don't face any difficulties in falling asleep because I'm already tired. This is seriously affecting my daily mood. If I am tired I'm generally in a bad mood and I don't feel like doing anything, while actually the main reason why I'm taking part in this challenge is to have more energies to chase girls.

Has anybody of you experienced the same issue? If yes, how have you dealt with it? I was seriously considering to drop out because this lethargy is becoming difficult to sustain, but maybe it is just because my body is trying to naturally adapt to it and to readjust its equilibrium. Any advice appreciated.
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If your not getting release through women nor having wet dreams (I'v personally never had one in my life plenty of sex dreams but no busted nuts) then I imagine your body will find other measures of reducing the pressure.

Without a regular fuckbuddy or gf or in a city where you can get laid at minimum once a week your asking for hell.
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(01-08-2016 12:05 PM)Spyridon Wrote:  Day 19.

I've found it to be relatively easy to abstain once you pass the first week (most difficult days were day 7,8,9). I am keeping a journal in order to keep track of the benefits and the side effects but also to keep myself accountable. As many of you have already experienced, sleeping issues have been a problem for me as well. One thing that I noticed is that whereas in the first 10 days I was waking up energetic and rested (usually at 7am with no alarm, regardless of when I was going to sleep -eg. I could have slept for 5 hours and being totally fine with it), since day 13 I am experiencing just the opposite. I wake up tired, no morning woods (except on day 15), I am constantly lethargic throughout the day, I sleep longer but I do not rest, I don't face any difficulties in falling asleep because I'm already tired. This is seriously affecting my daily mood. If I am tired I'm generally in a bad mood and I don't feel like doing anything, while actually the main reason why I'm taking part in this challenge is to have more energies to chase girls.

Has anybody of you experienced the same issue? If yes, how have you dealt with it? I was seriously considering to drop out because this lethargy is becoming difficult to sustain, but maybe it is just because my body is trying to naturally adapt to it and to readjust its equilibrium. Any advice appreciated.


It seems to be the "Flatline" :

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/...onquer_it/

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/...o_we_fail/

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/...e_exactly/

http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/i-quit-po...asing-help


Keep going !
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(01-08-2016 12:05 PM)Spyridon Wrote:  Day 19.

I've found it to be relatively easy to abstain once you pass the first week (most difficult days were day 7,8,9). I am keeping a journal in order to keep track of the benefits and the side effects but also to keep myself accountable. As many of you have already experienced, sleeping issues have been a problem for me as well. One thing that I noticed is that whereas in the first 10 days I was waking up energetic and rested (usually at 7am with no alarm, regardless of when I was going to sleep -eg. I could have slept for 5 hours and being totally fine with it), since day 13 I am experiencing just the opposite. I wake up tired, no morning woods (except on day 15), I am constantly lethargic throughout the day, I sleep longer but I do not rest, I don't face any difficulties in falling asleep because I'm already tired. This is seriously affecting my daily mood. If I am tired I'm generally in a bad mood and I don't feel like doing anything, while actually the main reason why I'm taking part in this challenge is to have more energies to chase girls.

Has anybody of you experienced the same issue? If yes, how have you dealt with it? I was seriously considering to drop out because this lethargy is becoming difficult to sustain, but maybe it is just because my body is trying to naturally adapt to it and to readjust its equilibrium. Any advice appreciated.

Like GTL said, you seem to be hitting the dreaded flatline. Some guys hit it earlier than others, and for some guys it lasts a lot longer than it does for others. Personally I think that it's the most difficult aspect of the NoPorn/NoFap journey. I wish there was an easy answer to dealing with it, but unfortunately the way seems to be powering through it.

I'm beginning to hit that stage myself (sudden lack of morning wood and low/no sexual desire). From personal experience I've found that it can last for months in extreme cases. However, it's also possible that you'll snap out of it in a couple weeks.

The best advice I can give is to try not to focus on it too much. I know that's very difficult when you feel fatigued and shitty all the time, but try to come up with some positive activities that you enjoy. If you can spend time around people who are uplifting then maybe that will help keep your mind in a good place. Also, check out the links that GTL posted, as they seem to have some good information.

I'm also using bright light therapy to fix my sleep/energy issues. There is a fantastic thread about it here. I can't say that I've noticed any major improvements yet, but admittedly that's my own fault because I haven't been as consistent with it as I should be. Still, a ton of guys on the forum swear by it, which is what prompted me to buy a light for xmas. Might be worth looking into.

Good luck man, and don't hesitate to pop in here if you're in need of any support!
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Yeah flatlining always scares me. Especially when I stop having any desires.

Has anyone noticed penis size getting smaller? I read someone saying it happened but not sure how common it was. I would assume it's like any other muscle that if no longer stimulated, it will atrophy.
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(01-06-2016 08:47 PM)Stay Wrote:  No fapp is impossible unless your getting laid on the regular.

No porn has a point to it but if you go months without fapping or getting laid your prostate is going to be fucked.
Your prostate takes a beating (heh) when you fap but dont come. Going longer durations of time without ejaculation is actually good for your prostate.
But fapping and getting almost to the release point and stopping is like hitting your prostate with a hammer. Or so I have read.
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I always do that when i fapp its called edging and its a great way to imrove your sexual stamina and have massive cum shots.

I wouldnt recommend no fapp to someone who has had ED problems in the past. The flatline death of sex drive stage will fuck with them too much. No porn fair enough but no fapp has too many drawbacks.

Better off heading to the philippines and destroying every last trace of sexual anxiety they have.
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(01-09-2016 11:10 PM)flow Wrote:  
(01-06-2016 08:47 PM)Stay Wrote:  No fapp is impossible unless your getting laid on the regular.

No porn has a point to it but if you go months without fapping or getting laid your prostate is going to be fucked.
Your prostate takes a beating (heh) when you fap but dont come. Going longer durations of time without ejaculation is actually good for your prostate.
But fapping and getting almost to the release point and stopping is like hitting your prostate with a hammer. Or so I have read.

Can you provide some research data on this?
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I do need to quit this shit, its running up my data like a mothafucka! Lol, but in all seriousness I've been somewhat addicted, putting off shit I needed to do just to fap. I don't know wtf has got into me, I guess because I got my own place now its easier just to fap whenever I please lol.

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As much as I'm against no fapp I do need to get my shit under control. If I can keep it to minimum of once a day that would be great.
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(01-10-2016 09:26 AM)ksbms Wrote:  
(01-09-2016 11:10 PM)flow Wrote:  
(01-06-2016 08:47 PM)Stay Wrote:  No fapp is impossible unless your getting laid on the regular.

No porn has a point to it but if you go months without fapping or getting laid your prostate is going to be fucked.
Your prostate takes a beating (heh) when you fap but dont come. Going longer durations of time without ejaculation is actually good for your prostate.
But fapping and getting almost to the release point and stopping is like hitting your prostate with a hammer. Or so I have read.

Can you provide some research data on this?


I don't have any research to show, but only personal experience. When I edge for some hours I feel discomfort in my prostate area (like a prostate hypertrophy) and if I try to pee when I suffer from it, I have the sensation that I have to pee but I can't (like old people who suffer of prostate problem). As a porn/fap addict, I can feel my prostate when I pee (even the days when I don't fap ) which is not normal.
Also, I read that over masturbation is far worse than not enough masturbation in the case of prostate cancer. The reason is that over masturbation does overwork your prostate which is not good !
I'll try to find the source by the way.
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Iv had that exact same thing and its fucking hellish. There is literally nothing you can do when it happens. Usually is accompanied by blueballs in my case.

I only get it though if I have a build up of like 2 days worth. Or if I have been in an amped up state for like an hour then try edging by myself or with a chick.

Im on finasteride though which is supposed to cut down yoyr risks of prostate cancer.

I guess its a clear sign that moderation is key.
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I worked in a care home when I was younger and every single male in there had prostate cancer. Its like a guarentee if you reach past 80.

I imagine the other extreme was the reason. Those guys will be lucky to bust there nut once a year.
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I think counting down the days does more harm than good. Whenever I have a long streak, I can't help but feel so bottled up because i've made it for so many days. Why not just make a decision to nofap and forget about counting the days? Instead of saying "I haven't fapped in ___ days" you can say "I no longer fap" and be done with it.
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