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RE: The lowdown on Ho Chi Minh/Vietnam - datasheet
(12-03-2016 11:18 PM)Mr. Scumbag Wrote:  
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(12-03-2016 07:37 PM)Pax31 Wrote:  what that girl is saying in vietnamese is super hot. thanks for the share. this place is like shooting fish in a barrel.

Are you kidding me? I've been here for over a month and this place is far from easy. My experience has been 95% of the online girls flake at some point between texting and meetup.

Going by your previous posts you've been here for about 2 days. Have you been here before?

Break it down for us how it's like shooting fish in a barrel here.

EDIT: I just read you are American/Vietnamese and speak the language fluently. That will put you in a much different category than most of us here.

You're middle-aged. Of course it's going to be different for you.

On anothet note, why are there never any good flight deals on flights from China to HCMC?

Depends from which Chinese city you depart.
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(05-02-2017 04:35 AM)Spitative Wrote:  Currently in Vietnam. I'm Viet-American. Crushing it over here. The women are much more feminine and caring. Piggybacking on the advice thrown out here. Don't even think about first night lays, set up day 2's at your place.

Is there any advice you can throw my way? It looks like I'll be spending two weeks in HCMC near Vincom Mall. Also let me know if you're free for a drink by pm if interested.

Focusing on some serious gaming and personal development for the next few months. Will be taking PMs though.
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RE: The lowdown on Ho Chi Minh/Vietnam - datasheet
Stacks, just use Tinder here as much as you can and as Spitative said, be proactive but don't shoot before date #2. That should be plenty.
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(05-03-2017 02:15 AM)McBain Wrote:  Stacks, just use Tinder here as much as you can and as Spitative said, be proactive but don't shoot before date #2. That should be plenty.

Awesome. That's really encouraging. Vietnam is one of the countries that I am most worried about missing out on a flag, but if tinder works there then I should be in heaven. As far as I know so far I find Vietnamese women to be the hottest in all of EA and SEA.

Mind if I hit you up by pm once I finalize the ticket and apartment situation? Also a drink is in order if you're down.

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Why not, but I am not currently active here so my tips won't be huge.
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Stacks, apologies for the late reply. It's my last weekend in Saigon and we'll heading back to Bui Vien tonight and most likely a club tomorrow.

Some advice:
I've only gotten 2 same night lays but these were westernized viet girls. (IE: they studied abroad and spoke pretty decent English)

The rest, I usually set up a date. Usually a coffee/boba date first and I'll test the waters and see if I like them and if they look like they look in their tinder pictures. If I like, I will bounce from the coffee place to a more formal setting like a bar with some food. Mix in some kino with flirting in Vietnamese and English. I would say my biggest advantage here is they love my Vietnamese American accent, height, and size. I'm always get comments on those and stares in the streets.

These chicks will not show any PDA because they're afraid of being slut shamed because of the conservative culture in Vietnam. I'll usually end the date with a kiss on the cheek (somewhere very private) and make sure she knows I like her. Second date is an invitation to come eat at my place, make dinner, eat, then caveman to the bedroom. They're usually ready to go in private and a freak in the sheets.

I would spring for tinder plus. I spoofed my location to Vietnam 3 weeks prior to boots on the ground. 800 matches so far, swiping right on 1/5 girls.

I have a really big advantage here because I am a good looking westernized Vietnamese. I've had comments from people saying I should model. Play to your strengths, and I know I'm hella strong in Nam. I'll be back next year.
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I was wondering if there are any dating cultural differences in terms of texting/calling/chasing women here in Vietnam, especially if your in a relationship. Out West, we are taught to never chase women, and let them do most of the chasing when calling/texting but I'm starting to get the impression that if you also don't chase a bit when your in a relationship, the girl will go into auto-rejection and lose interest. I got into a mini-relationship with a vietnamese girl who I met when I came to Vietnam in January. It became a LDR once I left but we made plans that I would return back in 6 months to spend more time together. Initially she was constantly blowing up my phone and I couldn't get her to leave me alone and I didn't have to chase at all because everytime she messaged me, I would setup a videochat date with her since that's the best I could do in this situation but then I noticed she started to slowly text/call less and less slowly over time and then a week would go by without a word and I would initiate contact with her and she would appear very happy and enthusiastic to talk to me. She would continue to text/call me often for 1-2 weeks and then would start texting/calling less again and then no contact and when I initiated contact again after a week she would appear happy again. I found her writing some nonsense in vietnamese saying "he suddenly starting to slowly contact less and less." a month ago on her fb wall, which I'm guessing would mean me. I kept the ratio of her contacting me to 4:1 or 5:1. She was doing most of the pursuing like 75-80%.

We still chatted like 2-3 times a week but then suddenly two weeks ago, I noticed she didn't appear too enthusiastic to talk and displayed signs of lowered interest when I called her. I quickly noticed this and gave her plenty of space by not contacting her again. She hasn't contacted me ever since and its been two weeks now. Now its basically both of us applying no-contact.

My relatives in Vietnam are telling me, I need to chase more and call her more often and stuff or she will lose interest and forget about me. They are all saying your the men, you need to chase the girl. My emotions are making me want to chase more and message her but from reading and applying game theory in the past, especially with western women and even eastern europeans, I know that when a women goes cold, you should just leave her alone and eventually she will get back in contact with u if she still has any interest, but I'm not sure if this also applies for girls in Vietnam. This girl is quite clingy and needy, as expected from an Asian girl. I'm not sure what the dating rules are and if I should make more of an effort to initiate contact/phoning her otherwise she will go into auto-rejection or if the no chasing rule is universal for all females around the world?
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View and Chinese girls are looking for a decent guy to lock down, if they aren't seeing much value in u, they would go elsewhere, they prob won't chase u.
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(05-06-2017 10:06 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  View and Chinese girls are looking for a decent guy to lock down, if they aren't seeing much value in u, they would go elsewhere, they prob won't chase u.

She brought up marriage several times in the past, and about 3 weeks ago asked that if she wanted to marry me at the end of next year, if it was ok. She said she didn't want to be dating for too long and too far into the future. I told her it was still too early for me and I needed an extra year or two of dating before I could promise her marriage and she reluctantly agreed with me. That's when I believe I saw the biggest drop in interest level.

So what do you think I should do at this point? I'm about 4.5 months away from returning back to Vietnam. Is there anything I can do to maintain her interest level or raise it back up until I return?

I had planned on quitting my crappy low paying job once I had saved up enough money for several months of living expenses and spending several months there with her but about two days ago, my company announced they were going to hire two team leaders in my department. There's a very high chance, I'm going to be promoted which would mean I could return back earlier to Vietnam because I'm going to be making more money but asking to take time off right after getting a promotion isn't going to look too good for me, plus I won't be able to be gone too long.
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Just came back from 2 weeks in Saigon/Hanoi and I am falling in love with my motherland. Not just because how easy it is for me to pull but the country itself, the people, my family, and the lifestyle. Might just move there for a year and teach English along side a private labeling business.

A bit about myself: 100% Vietnamese but raised in SoCal. I am 5'10, 170 lbs. I tower over most guys in Vietnam and I have the size to back it up too. I would say I am in the top 10 percent of guys in Vietnam. I can speak decent Vietnamese. Every time I speak Vietnamese the girls ALWAYS comment on how cute I sound for some reason. I think it's because I speak differently than the way Viet dudes speak in Vietnam (crude).

A little over two weeks culminated in 4 girls with multiple bangs from each chick.
Like most have said, this isn't a country where you go looking for a ONS every night and get it. The culture is still very conservative even though Saigon is westernizing rather rapidly.

3 girls were from Tinder, one was a pull from the nightclub. Come to think of it, all 3 tinder chicks were same night lays after going clubbing. I did however see all of the chicks on a Day 2 because honestly I enjoyed their company and didn't want them to feel like a slut. I got the last one's number at the club before leaving and met up with her again the following night which led to a bang that night.

My advice:

Get Tinder plus and start pipe-lining about 2-3 weeks in advance. I only used 1 month of plus and I received over 800 matches in the span of that month (being pretty selective with my swipes). Probably the most success I've ever had using Tinder. I filtered my way down to the ones who were really down and I believed I could close in a short amount of time.

Basic game works really well here (for me anyways). Cocky-funny works if they understand English well but most do not have that level of English.

Hanoi is a lot more conservative than Saigon which is westernizing quickly.

I had a lot of girls want to date me. They really wanted to go on coffee dates and get to know me and I know that you can easily close on the second date if you choose to pursue the "let's have dinner at my place" route. Vietnamese girls are very conservative but as soon as they get in private, they are naughty.

Dancefloor game is top notch. I went out with my buddies and we love to just dance and have fun. Viet guys don't really dance or know how to dance so everybody would stare at us when we owned the dance floor and eventually we would have all the girls around in a circle. Just hold your hand out and spin them and dance with them.

However dancing with a girl here where you're grinding on her and she will believe that you are very keen about her. My friends and I dance for fun and we like to dance with everyone. One night, I danced with Chick A and then with Chick B and after Chick A saw me dancing with Chick B, she went over and jammed her heel into Chick B's foot. It was kind of crazy.

Vietnam clubbing scene is pretty cliquey and social circle dependent. The groups mostly stayed in their groups but my friend who is Mexican-American did well by playing the fun guy card and opening the dudes who would then introduce him to the girls.

Honestly I can't say much more because I felt like such a hot commodity in Vietnam. I would get stares on the streets, I had people saying I look like a fitness model. I felt I was at such a huge advantage and so much confidence when I was there, I felt like I barely had to try.
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Yes, pretty accurate testimony.
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Those of you doing border runs to Cambodia every 2-3 months, do they stamp your passport each time? Or is that over now with the new e-visa thing?
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(05-18-2017 03:25 AM)Mr. Scumbag Wrote:  Those of you doing border runs to Cambodia every 2-3 months, do they stamp your passport each time? Or is that over now with the new e-visa thing?

I would like to know, too.
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No need for a border run now. You can renew your visa a few times without the need to go anywhere. Use a travel agency though. Otherwise the headaches from the procedure won't make it worth it.
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Cambodia gives you one giant full page sticker, an entry stamp, and exit stamp. This was 2 months ago.
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(05-18-2017 09:55 PM)Shimmy Wrote:  Cambodia gives you one giant full page sticker, an entry stamp, and exit stamp. This was 2 months ago.

That takes up a lot of passport space for a border run...
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(05-06-2017 06:06 PM)destiny Wrote:  I was wondering if there are any dating cultural differences in terms of texting/calling/chasing women here in Vietnam, especially if your in a relationship. Out West, we are taught to never chase women, and let them do most of the chasing when calling/texting but I'm starting to get the impression that if you also don't chase a bit when your in a relationship, the girl will go into auto-rejection and lose interest. I got into a mini-relationship with a vietnamese girl who I met when I came to Vietnam in January. It became a LDR once I left but we made plans that I would return back in 6 months to spend more time together. Initially she was constantly blowing up my phone and I couldn't get her to leave me alone and I didn't have to chase at all because everytime she messaged me, I would setup a videochat date with her since that's the best I could do in this situation but then I noticed she started to slowly text/call less and less slowly over time and then a week would go by without a word and I would initiate contact with her and she would appear very happy and enthusiastic to talk to me. She would continue to text/call me often for 1-2 weeks and then would start texting/calling less again and then no contact and when I initiated contact again after a week she would appear happy again. I found her writing some nonsense in vietnamese saying "he suddenly starting to slowly contact less and less." a month ago on her fb wall, which I'm guessing would mean me. I kept the ratio of her contacting me to 4:1 or 5:1. She was doing most of the pursuing like 75-80%.

We still chatted like 2-3 times a week but then suddenly two weeks ago, I noticed she didn't appear too enthusiastic to talk and displayed signs of lowered interest when I called her. I quickly noticed this and gave her plenty of space by not contacting her again. She hasn't contacted me ever since and its been two weeks now. Now its basically both of us applying no-contact.

My relatives in Vietnam are telling me, I need to chase more and call her more often and stuff or she will lose interest and forget about me. They are all saying your the men, you need to chase the girl. My emotions are making me want to chase more and message her but from reading and applying game theory in the past, especially with western women and even eastern europeans, I know that when a women goes cold, you should just leave her alone and eventually she will get back in contact with u if she still has any interest, but I'm not sure if this also applies for girls in Vietnam. This girl is quite clingy and needy, as expected from an Asian girl. I'm not sure what the dating rules are and if I should make more of an effort to initiate contact/phoning her otherwise she will go into auto-rejection or if the no chasing rule is universal for all females around the world?

This is really a great description of what I struggled with when I was there. Filipina's can be relentless with initiating contact, and I've found Vietnamese women are often the opposite, unless they have decided you are the one.

I have wondered if for Vietnamese women it's a matter of pride? I don't know.

But I have had the same experience as you. There have been times I thought a girl was not interested in me because she wouldn't initiate contact, but when I finally decided to reach out she was enthusiastic and like, "What took you so long?"

That said, they can be high maintenance in the attention department if they decide you might be the one.

Long distance is hard. I try to keep several girls going, but I just don't have the time or energy to keep it up.

If you want to keep this girl around you may have to "prove yourself" by investing a lot of time and energy into the communication. Whether it's worth that is something only you can decide.
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I think one thing about acting aloof, not initiating contact etc in the West is the purpose is to feign that you are high value and have options, that is why it's an effective technique for making and keeping women interested in you. If you are a white man in the East, it is already a given that you are high value and have options, you don't need to feign that and doing so can actually have a negative effect.

Sometimes in the East, you even need to run anti-game and do the opposite of what would be successful in the West to assure women that you're not a player so that they can let their guard down. Basically you just need to lead the way in a relationship and not worry about making her jealous or making her chase you because that will be happening enough naturally already.
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(05-20-2017 11:47 AM)Onto Wrote:  
(05-06-2017 06:06 PM)destiny Wrote:  I was wondering if there are any dating cultural differences in terms of texting/calling/chasing women here in Vietnam, especially if your in a relationship. Out West, we are taught to never chase women, and let them do most of the chasing when calling/texting but I'm starting to get the impression that if you also don't chase a bit when your in a relationship, the girl will go into auto-rejection and lose interest. I got into a mini-relationship with a vietnamese girl who I met when I came to Vietnam in January. It became a LDR once I left but we made plans that I would return back in 6 months to spend more time together. Initially she was constantly blowing up my phone and I couldn't get her to leave me alone and I didn't have to chase at all because everytime she messaged me, I would setup a videochat date with her since that's the best I could do in this situation but then I noticed she started to slowly text/call less and less slowly over time and then a week would go by without a word and I would initiate contact with her and she would appear very happy and enthusiastic to talk to me. She would continue to text/call me often for 1-2 weeks and then would start texting/calling less again and then no contact and when I initiated contact again after a week she would appear happy again. I found her writing some nonsense in vietnamese saying "he suddenly starting to slowly contact less and less." a month ago on her fb wall, which I'm guessing would mean me. I kept the ratio of her contacting me to 4:1 or 5:1. She was doing most of the pursuing like 75-80%.

We still chatted like 2-3 times a week but then suddenly two weeks ago, I noticed she didn't appear too enthusiastic to talk and displayed signs of lowered interest when I called her. I quickly noticed this and gave her plenty of space by not contacting her again. She hasn't contacted me ever since and its been two weeks now. Now its basically both of us applying no-contact.

My relatives in Vietnam are telling me, I need to chase more and call her more often and stuff or she will lose interest and forget about me. They are all saying your the men, you need to chase the girl. My emotions are making me want to chase more and message her but from reading and applying game theory in the past, especially with western women and even eastern europeans, I know that when a women goes cold, you should just leave her alone and eventually she will get back in contact with u if she still has any interest, but I'm not sure if this also applies for girls in Vietnam. This girl is quite clingy and needy, as expected from an Asian girl. I'm not sure what the dating rules are and if I should make more of an effort to initiate contact/phoning her otherwise she will go into auto-rejection or if the no chasing rule is universal for all females around the world?

This is really a great description of what I struggled with when I was there. Filipina's can be relentless with initiating contact, and I've found Vietnamese women are often the opposite, unless they have decided you are the one.

I have wondered if for Vietnamese women it's a matter of pride? I don't know.

But I have had the same experience as you. There have been times I thought a girl was not interested in me because she wouldn't initiate contact, but when I finally decided to reach out she was enthusiastic and like, "What took you so long?"

That said, they can be high maintenance in the attention department if they decide you might be the one.

Long distance is hard. I try to keep several girls going, but I just don't have the time or energy to keep it up.

If you want to keep this girl around you may have to "prove yourself" by investing a lot of time and energy into the communication. Whether it's worth that is something only you can decide.

Don't really have a choice with the long distance thing unfortunately. I'm stuck in this shithole city Toronto and have pretty main remained celibate and dateless. I gave up trying to date the local women here after putting in an tremendous amount of effort with very little return in the past. Going off to another province would also result in being long distance. Moving's outta the question cause all of the jobs are here.

I plan on bridging the long distance gap in the near future but right now just need to work on my finances and career first. LDR is not ideal but its definitely worth it being able to date a beautiful feminine girl who treats me right as opposed to resorting to dating several points down, being stuck with a fat, lazy, masculine bitch that thinks she's the shit on the block.
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(05-20-2017 12:28 PM)the-dream Wrote:  I think one thing about acting aloof, not initiating contact etc in the West is the purpose is to feign that you are high value and have options, that is why it's an effective technique for making and keeping women interested in you. If you are a white man in the East, it is already a given that you are high value and have options, you don't need to feign that and doing so can actually have a negative effect.

Sometimes in the East, you even need to run anti-game and do the opposite of what would be successful in the West to assure women that you're not a player so that they can let their guard down. Basically you just need to lead the way in a relationship and not worry about making her jealous or making her chase you because that will be happening enough naturally already.

Yah, I tried to run a little beta game from time to time and it made her quite happy. You just know how fucked up the dating situation is in the west when you have to resort to petty mind games and manipulation just to get with the women. Going abroad and dating foreign women, in a traditional sense feels so much natural and easy. I feel like I can be more of myself with them as opposed to western women.
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Agree with using Airbnb but if you leave it too close to travel dates and everything good is booked, girl friendly hotels I've stayed are:

Vien Dong
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Boss Palace

They check ID as you walk in with the girl but no issues with overnight guests at all

Avoid Novotel Saigon they don't let any guests come in with you after 10pm (lol)

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If you can, get an Airbnb with a view. This past trip we got one on the 20th floor on Vo Van Kiet that overlooked the river. Great logistics because "come back to our Airbnb for the view."

Also we had security guards but all they did was just look at me and smile every time I brought a new girl home or escorted her out to the Uber at 4AM.
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I've never dated a Viet girl, but I'll speak from knowing a lot of Viet-Americans. Culturally speaking, you're considered much more successful if you're in a stable relationship. Running strong anti-game (don't be a wimp, act decisively, make decent money, show her a bit of romance, don't be an asshole, etc.) is often enough to land a relationship with a solid Vietnamese girl. Having spent a lot of time in that social circle, I can tell you that they are still at the top of the list in my opinion for a man looking for a relationship/wife quality woman that has brain, ambition, and still retains feminity. Viet girls often just have "it".

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RE: The lowdown on Ho Chi Minh/Vietnam - datasheet
(06-17-2012 04:32 PM)deepcov3r Wrote:  Which free dating site pleez?

Zalo app, you can scan around you via GPS like Wechat. Even in Bangkok it showed me 70 Viet girls around me. In Sukhumvit.

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RE: The lowdown on Ho Chi Minh/Vietnam - datasheet
Hi all, I plan a visit to HMC and I'd like to know if I need to bring Cialis with me (I'm old enough to need it) or is it easy to get locally. If you know the answer, please let me know here or by PM. Thanks!
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